March Madness

Real Tar Heel
Real Tar Heel Member Posts: 307 Member
in Colorectal Cancer #1

Hope everyone is doing well. If you know American sports and/or colleges and recognize my forum screen name might guess that I am fully invested in college basketball right now, which brings me to the first topic, drinking alcohol. The only time I drink is when there is some kind of big time sporting event in the evening I'll have a pint. And whenever my scans are good I might have a pint. I've read that, especially for those with liver mets, one is NEVER EVER SUPPOSED TO TOUCH A DROP. Are you other cancer fighters still dry, do you have the occasional sip of scotch?

Wondering if anyone read the article about the main researcher who lead the creation of the Pfizer covid vaccine? She said she believed there would be CANCER vaccines within two years. That's what she was working on before COVID, the immuno response to cancer, and that the success with COVID led her to believe they would crack the code to get WBC to recognize cancer cells as abnormal. Are there any other researchers so confident? Guess we will all volunteer to be a subject in her trials.

This may be silly, but for you all with kids and grandkids, there's a good show that works to explain what goes on in our bodies in an entertaining way. The main villain of the show is a cancer cell and it is interesting how the show personifies the cells and their jobs and how WBC are reluctant to kill cancer cells because they are in fact human cells. Show is called Cells at Work. It's on Netflix (if you have some problem with Japanese animation you will probably avoid it).

Last year, my youngest loved the show, now she thinks it's corny and for nerds. LOL.

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  • worriedson714
    worriedson714 Member Posts: 333 Member
    #2
    The article

    Do you have the link to the article about the researcher who said that about the cancer vaccine ? That seems like huge news idk why haven't heard about it . 

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,429 Member
    #3
    Villanova Fan Says Sorry About 2016

    I did not go to the Villanova-UNC Final, but when Villanova made Final Four in 2018 I went to San Antonio to see them win it all in 2018.    The whole cancer/sc--w it might as well go carpe diem move.  And evey time I think about it, I do not remember how much I spent on tickets or hotel, I just remember how awesome it was to be at a Final Four.  Then to see Villanova win it.  Just tremendous. Pretty wild about OSU and Perdue today.  Today and tommorow.  16 Games each day.  Two of the best days of the year.

    As to drinking, I do not have liver mets.  Just in my lymph nodes, spine and dozens in my lungs.  So I drink as much as I want :)  Kidding aside, I do not drink while on my chemo pills (one exception was some sips for a toast), and try to limit otherwise.  Once I started getting into the exercising thing to keep going, drinks became "wait, I need to run another mile to keep it even?"  Same with food and the rest.  I will drink and eat things like pizza.  But try to think about it.  Tonight 'Nova played, but I am finishing my pills.  I wouldn't have minded a beer, but did not really miss it.  May grad one for Sundays game. 

    There seems to have been a lot learned with COVID and vaccines and immunotherapy.  That said, it seems optmistic for vaccines for cancer to behere in two years, if for nothing else that  COVID, its variants and future vaccines related to COVID may be using most resources for the near future.  I hope to have to eat crow on that one.  And would gladly do so.   

    It seems immunotherapy is getting closer.  There were things happening with COVID, the disease and the treatments, that added insights about the Cytokine re lease syndrome/Cytokine Storms from the very beginning - I saw reports early on last year and discussion how it can apply to cancer treatments.  That is one of the biggest issues with the immunotherapy cancer treatments.  Pretty wild if you read the accounts.  There were some recent articles I had seen where there was research where immunotherapy was able to target cancer cells more precisely.

    But as I have said recently.  I am on Lonsurf now.  When I was diagnosed it was not approved for colon cancer.  And it has kept things generally in check.  You just never know what is around the corner.  

    WorriedSon714 here is an article discussing things generally about Covid and Cancer

     

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,381 Member
    edited March 2021 #4
    worriedson714 said:

    The article

    Do you have the link to the article about the researcher who said that about the cancer vaccine ? That seems like huge news idk why haven't heard about it . 

    Link

    Scientist behind coronavirus shot says next target is cancer (apnews.com)

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,381 Member
    edited March 2021 #5
    Drinking

    I really like beer.  I stayed dry through chemo (to the best of my memory), but I indulge more often since my diagnosis, than before.   Also, I had terrible back pain after chemo.  In truth, the best pain reliever I could find was beer.  So far, it is working for me.  A tragic story I know is this:  The first person I spoke to after my diagnosis was a neigbor's friend, a young woman with stage 4 colon cancer.  We talked by phone and internet, and she pined for a glass of wine, but abstained based on her doctor's recommendations.  She tragically succumbed to the cancer within a year.  That really irritated me, because I sure wish she had enjoyed a glass or two of wine during the time she lived, instead of following the doctor's reccomendations.  For what its worth.

  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,804 Member
    #6
    SandiaBuddy said:

    Drinking

    I really like beer.  I stayed dry through chemo (to the best of my memory), but I indulge more often since my diagnosis, than before.   Also, I had terrible back pain after chemo.  In truth, the best pain reliever I could find was beer.  So far, it is working for me.  A tragic story I know is this:  The first person I spoke to after my diagnosis was a neigbor's friend, a young woman with stage 4 colon cancer.  We talked by phone and internet, and she pined for a glass of wine, but abstained based on her doctor's recommendations.  She tragically succumbed to the cancer within a year.  That really irritated me, because I sure wish she had enjoyed a glass or two of wine during the time she lived, instead of following the doctor's reccomendations.  For what its worth.

    1967

    Now we're going back to my era.  

    A freind from the forum, as she was dying, told me 'I wish I had eaten that ice cream when I was craving it'.  She had basically cut out everything 'unhealthy' and tried some pretty out there treatments - coffee enemas, eating clay, to name a few.  She went down to Mexico to the Gerson Clinic and went through some pretty awful stuff, came home and died two weeks later. She gave me some pretty good advice during that small period of time from returning home and dying, that has stuck with me. 

    While we don't need to go crazy, we do need to make life worth living, while we can. 

    Ilike NewHere's adivce also, about thinking it through ' Tonight 'Nova played, but I am finishing my pills.  I wouldn't have minded a beer, but did not really miss it.  May grab one for Sundays game.  and then making the decisoin.

    Love your new pic, SB.

    Tru

  • abita
    abita Member Posts: 1,152 Member
    edited March 2021 #7
    I wonder if the vaccine being

    I wonder if the vaccine being researched would treat current cancer or just prevent future cancer.

  • pbiflyer
    pbiflyer Member Posts: 7 Member
    edited March 2021 #8
    First, as a Marquette fan,

    First, as a Marquette fan, sorry about beating you guys this year. Thankfully, we still got rid of Wojo, a great person, just not a good coach.

    Second, I usually go to the first round games with a group of friends. We spend the off days watching the games in a bar. Obviously alcohol is involved. This year, my first after being diagnosed, with no crowds, we did not go. But it gave me pause for future years and events like beer festivals.

    I only had primary, no met. 

    To NewHere, glad you went. I went in 2003 and even though we were blown out, I would not trade that experience.
    And I love watching Villanova. What a fun team.

     

  • Real Tar Heel
    Real Tar Heel Member Posts: 307 Member
    edited March 2021 #9
    abita said:

    I wonder if the vaccine being

    I wonder if the vaccine being researched would treat current cancer or just prevent future cancer.

    Here's an excerpt:

    Here's an excerpt:

    The vaccines made by BioNTech-Pfizer and U.S. rival Moderna uses messenger RNA, or mRNA, to carry instructions into the human body for making proteins that prime it to attack a specific virus. The same principle can be applied to get the immune system to take on tumors.

    I'm no immunologist but sounds like their vaccine would instruct the WBC to attack any tumor found. This implies that they are working on a theraputic vaccine.

  • beaumontdave
    beaumontdave Member Posts: 1,289 Member
    #10
    SandiaBuddy said:

    Drinking

    I really like beer.  I stayed dry through chemo (to the best of my memory), but I indulge more often since my diagnosis, than before.   Also, I had terrible back pain after chemo.  In truth, the best pain reliever I could find was beer.  So far, it is working for me.  A tragic story I know is this:  The first person I spoke to after my diagnosis was a neigbor's friend, a young woman with stage 4 colon cancer.  We talked by phone and internet, and she pined for a glass of wine, but abstained based on her doctor's recommendations.  She tragically succumbed to the cancer within a year.  That really irritated me, because I sure wish she had enjoyed a glass or two of wine during the time she lived, instead of following the doctor's reccomendations.  For what its worth.

    You know I'm there, Sandia.

    You know I'm there, Sandia. Nothing I read ever suggested extra risk in moderate acohol use after liver mets were removed. Hepatitis 'C' it's documented about the ''not a drop'' stuff. Guess I'll aim for ''the exception to the rule'' if there ever is one. All I've read in regards to alcohol consumption by group shows no immediate corelation to CRC rates, at all. As far as March Madness goes, I grew up in the John Wooden Years, so UCLA's going to have to field a real competitor to get me involved...................................................................Dave

  • Real Tar Heel
    Real Tar Heel Member Posts: 307 Member
    #11
    NewHere said:

    Villanova Fan Says Sorry About 2016

    I did not go to the Villanova-UNC Final, but when Villanova made Final Four in 2018 I went to San Antonio to see them win it all in 2018.    The whole cancer/sc--w it might as well go carpe diem move.  And evey time I think about it, I do not remember how much I spent on tickets or hotel, I just remember how awesome it was to be at a Final Four.  Then to see Villanova win it.  Just tremendous. Pretty wild about OSU and Perdue today.  Today and tommorow.  16 Games each day.  Two of the best days of the year.

    As to drinking, I do not have liver mets.  Just in my lymph nodes, spine and dozens in my lungs.  So I drink as much as I want :)  Kidding aside, I do not drink while on my chemo pills (one exception was some sips for a toast), and try to limit otherwise.  Once I started getting into the exercising thing to keep going, drinks became "wait, I need to run another mile to keep it even?"  Same with food and the rest.  I will drink and eat things like pizza.  But try to think about it.  Tonight 'Nova played, but I am finishing my pills.  I wouldn't have minded a beer, but did not really miss it.  May grad one for Sundays game. 

    There seems to have been a lot learned with COVID and vaccines and immunotherapy.  That said, it seems optmistic for vaccines for cancer to behere in two years, if for nothing else that  COVID, its variants and future vaccines related to COVID may be using most resources for the near future.  I hope to have to eat crow on that one.  And would gladly do so.   

    It seems immunotherapy is getting closer.  There were things happening with COVID, the disease and the treatments, that added insights about the Cytokine re lease syndrome/Cytokine Storms from the very beginning - I saw reports early on last year and discussion how it can apply to cancer treatments.  That is one of the biggest issues with the immunotherapy cancer treatments.  Pretty wild if you read the accounts.  There were some recent articles I had seen where there was research where immunotherapy was able to target cancer cells more precisely.

    But as I have said recently.  I am on Lonsurf now.  When I was diagnosed it was not approved for colon cancer.  And it has kept things generally in check.  You just never know what is around the corner.  

    WorriedSon714 here is an article discussing things generally about Covid and Cancer

     

    I tend to put events like

    I tend to put events like that game you mentioned out of my mind (memory is already fading). Last minute losses are traumatic, you can see a blow out coming, they are less worrisome. I knew Wisconsin would be troublesome, they often are for us. Never forgave them for breaking Kendall Marshall's wrist.

    The liver surgeon told me I could eat anything I wanted but never mentioned drinking, maybe because he assumed I don't.

    The cytokine storm is an entire episode of the animated show I mentioned in the original post, lol.

  • Real Tar Heel
    Real Tar Heel Member Posts: 307 Member
    edited March 2021 #12
    SandiaBuddy said:

    Drinking

    I really like beer.  I stayed dry through chemo (to the best of my memory), but I indulge more often since my diagnosis, than before.   Also, I had terrible back pain after chemo.  In truth, the best pain reliever I could find was beer.  So far, it is working for me.  A tragic story I know is this:  The first person I spoke to after my diagnosis was a neigbor's friend, a young woman with stage 4 colon cancer.  We talked by phone and internet, and she pined for a glass of wine, but abstained based on her doctor's recommendations.  She tragically succumbed to the cancer within a year.  That really irritated me, because I sure wish she had enjoyed a glass or two of wine during the time she lived, instead of following the doctor's reccomendations.  For what its worth.

    Neil Young!
    Good advice.

    Neil Young!

    Good advice.

  • abita
    abita Member Posts: 1,152 Member
    #13
    Real Tar Heel said:

    Here's an excerpt:

    Here's an excerpt:

    The vaccines made by BioNTech-Pfizer and U.S. rival Moderna uses messenger RNA, or mRNA, to carry instructions into the human body for making proteins that prime it to attack a specific virus. The same principle can be applied to get the immune system to take on tumors.

    I'm no immunologist but sounds like their vaccine would instruct the WBC to attack any tumor found. This implies that they are working on a theraputic vaccine.

    thanks for posting this. I

    thanks for posting this. I have been on chemo since Nov 2017, except for a small break when they thought my resections had "cured" me. Quickly found out it had not. Anyway, what gets me through, is hoping that one day, one of these becomes my "miracle".

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,381 Member
    edited March 2021 #14
    Trubrit said:

    1967

    Now we're going back to my era.  

    A freind from the forum, as she was dying, told me 'I wish I had eaten that ice cream when I was craving it'.  She had basically cut out everything 'unhealthy' and tried some pretty out there treatments - coffee enemas, eating clay, to name a few.  She went down to Mexico to the Gerson Clinic and went through some pretty awful stuff, came home and died two weeks later. She gave me some pretty good advice during that small period of time from returning home and dying, that has stuck with me. 

    While we don't need to go crazy, we do need to make life worth living, while we can. 

    Ilike NewHere's adivce also, about thinking it through ' Tonight 'Nova played, but I am finishing my pills.  I wouldn't have minded a beer, but did not really miss it.  May grab one for Sundays game.  and then making the decisoin.

    Love your new pic, SB.

    Tru

    Age

    Let's never publicly admit that we are the same age, Trubrit!

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,429 Member
    edited March 2021 #15
    beaumontdave said:

    You know I'm there, Sandia.

    You know I'm there, Sandia. Nothing I read ever suggested extra risk in moderate acohol use after liver mets were removed. Hepatitis 'C' it's documented about the ''not a drop'' stuff. Guess I'll aim for ''the exception to the rule'' if there ever is one. All I've read in regards to alcohol consumption by group shows no immediate corelation to CRC rates, at all. As far as March Madness goes, I grew up in the John Wooden Years, so UCLA's going to have to field a real competitor to get me involved...................................................................Dave

    The Bruins Did It Again Tonight

    Got the play-in and again tonight. 

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,429 Member
    edited March 2021 #16
    Real Tar Heel said:

    I tend to put events like

    I tend to put events like that game you mentioned out of my mind (memory is already fading). Last minute losses are traumatic, you can see a blow out coming, they are less worrisome. I knew Wisconsin would be troublesome, they often are for us. Never forgave them for breaking Kendall Marshall's wrist.

    The liver surgeon told me I could eat anything I wanted but never mentioned drinking, maybe because he assumed I don't.

    The cytokine storm is an entire episode of the animated show I mentioned in the original post, lol.

    As A Yankees Fan

    I am so happy the 2004 baseball season was cancelled.  ;) 

    I am going to have to check out the show.  Cytokine storm would also be a good Rick and Morty episode. Or a remake of Fantastic Voyage.

  • Real Tar Heel
    Real Tar Heel Member Posts: 307 Member
    #17
    pbiflyer said:

    First, as a Marquette fan,

    First, as a Marquette fan, sorry about beating you guys this year. Thankfully, we still got rid of Wojo, a great person, just not a good coach.

    Second, I usually go to the first round games with a group of friends. We spend the off days watching the games in a bar. Obviously alcohol is involved. This year, my first after being diagnosed, with no crowds, we did not go. But it gave me pause for future years and events like beer festivals.

    I only had primary, no met. 

    To NewHere, glad you went. I went in 2003 and even though we were blown out, I would not trade that experience.
    And I love watching Villanova. What a fun team.

     

    I think the opposite about

    I think the opposite about Wojo, good coach, annoying trash like any other Duke person Wink It's an obligatory insult, of course, we respect (some) Duke people. He was a tough kid as a player. When I was really young I was at my father's feet while he watched those great Marquette teams. Dad was not a huge bball fan but he did like McGuire.

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,429 Member
    #18
    BIG EAST!!!

    It was amazing.  I had tickets for the year before for the East Region at Madison Square Garden. First time I was going to the NCAA and got great seats.  Carpe Diem.  Eveyone expected a Nova (1) Duke (2) Final in the Region.  Both got bounced the second game.  Florida Wisconsin was a great game, but still ;) 

    So the next year I went to Boston for the Elite Eight.  Figured it was close enough.  Then they won their games and were heading to the Final Four.  I had no choice but to book it.  I missed the other two.

    Jay Wright is a great coach.  And just an all around good guy.  Collin Gillespie getting injured at the end of the season was a big loss for the team. They have had a pattern of guards developing along the way.  Recently Ryan Arcidiacono to Josh Hart to Jalen Brunson to Collin Gillespie.  They guys behind Collin Gillespie not quite ready to step in the same way. But it is March you never know.

    So many great games (and upsets) the last two days...

  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,804 Member
    edited March 2021 #19
    SandiaBuddy said:

    Age

    Let's never publicly admit that we are the same age, Trubrit!

    Age, what age

    I am ageless!

    And now you know why I don't have a picture of me as an avatar  - But I LOVE your pictures, keep them coming. 

    image

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