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VascodaGama said:

“Diet” comes from the Greek “diaita” that means “Way of Life”

MK,

I forgot your age but I assume it to be 57. I am curious on that to formulate my opinion in this thread because age can be used in judging the kind of life style, one may be more or less active.

You leaved a smile in my face for the comment of “normal food”. I wonder why it took you 53 years to consider steaks, burgers and fajitas as “normal”, probably declassifying all the other “healthy eating” you were accustomed to. In my opinion diets are all good if balanced with the life style one follows and according to the needs as we age or when some sort of micronutrient (supplements, etc) is missing for the proper functioning/metabolism of our systems.

The interesting aspect in your post is that you have followed healthy eating habits before contracting PCa which most of us think it as the best to counter the initiation of cancer. In other words, your PCa case may have derived from the lack of steaks, burgers and fajitas.

The word “Diet” comes from the Greek “diaita” that means “Way of Life”. I believe that we should try balancing food with physical activity (no matter its style) and follow a balanced diet incorporating all sorts of ingredients including those we are less attracted to. There will be always the one we love more. Just do not stick to a solo type of diet.

I was curious in knowing about the supplement/drug you are taking, the Clomiphene, which in regards to prostate cancer issues, is controversial. Clomiphene can be thought as an inducer in the production of testosterone, similar to synthetic-forms of TRT, but involving endogenous testosterone (produced by the testis). The drug is known to increase the levels of T in circulation. Your high T of 597 ng/dL could be the result of this supplement. Can you please substantiate the reason that took you to this drug. Have you experienced hypogonadism in the past? When did you start taking it?

Congratulations on the continuing remission levels.

Best,

VGama

Thanks Vasco for your reonse.

i was diagnosed with prostate cancer and had RP at age of 51. Just recently turned 56.

My RP was in 11/2016. Before RP I was very energetic, excercising regularly and leading healthy lifestyle.

After RP, I felt miserable, lost all energy, struggled to excercize and lost interest in all things I loved to do.

In January 2018 while went for check up with new urologist ( new insurance), I mentioned how I felt after RP and he decided to check my Testosterone levels. My Testosterone came up 217 and rest of testosterone panel was badly messed up. Since I had prostate cancer and RP,

he decided to put me on Clomiphene. For the last year my T was fairly stable (553 - 597) Dosing was changed multiple times but for last 6 months I was alternating 25 mg one day next day 50 mg. With my T around 600, I feel pretty much as it was before RP. I run / walk daily, stationary bike at home and my weight is very stable 215 lbs 185 cm high despite change in diet.i am still active soccer referee.

My men's health specialist who is monitoring my Testosterone and my PSA is saying that he will keep my on Clomiphene as long as it works for.

Also said, that way is way less dangerous for prostate cancer survivor then TRT.

VascodaGama said:

Soccer referee. Wow !!!

Hi again, 

MK, your life style couldn’t be better.  A soccer referee runs a lot.  Probably in one game you run the double of the average player which runs about 10 km (7miles). I like the way you are commanding your PCa case. 

I agree with cushions comment above that the 3rd generation PSA is not necessarily the best. I prefer two decimal places (0.XX ng/ml) for RP guys. However I would understand your doctor's willingness in checking PSA variations  as earlier as possible because of the use of the Clomiphen.  The bandit lives and survives on androgen cocktails and this drug provides them freely. I hope you are vigilant and stops taking the Clomiphen if the PSA shows constant increases.  Thought I understand your reason to feel better with higher testosterone but in your shoes I would try taking it intermittently. Say; three months on, three months off, or longer. That is the principle in hormonal treatments to extend the bandit's dependency providing control. 

I wonder if your doctor is the same person that recommended you B17 4 years ago.

Here is the link to our previous thread;

https://csn.cancer.org/comment/1625657#comment-1625657

It wouldn’t surprise me if one day you  referee a game with Cristiano Ronaldo.  Most probably he will move to a team in USA in a few years.

Best

VG

 

Vasco,

I am too old for such high intensity professional soccer games. In my referee carrier, I had referee licences from 2 different countries. One was in Europe and other one is US soccer federation. Being 56, i am even too ood for college games. But iwe have plenty of other leages and plenty of games to officiate. Being in Texas means a whole lot of soccer al year round.

I am not concerned about my PSA and taking Clomiphene as long as it keeps my Testosterone between 500 and 600.

After RP I felt miserable for 2 1/2 years. Enough is enough. I am taking risks.

MK