Stage 1 Cancer under left side of tongue front of tongue

Sabrina23
Sabrina23 Member Posts: 103 Member

Has anyone been diagnosed with tongue cancer under the tongue - will have operation on June 3rd.  Is having tongue cancer in the front of your tongue worse than having it in back of the tongue.  I never dealt with anything this before and just wondering.  Can you all tell me the experiences with tongue cancer and what I should expect - I am having surgery on June 3 they are removing part of the tongue glossectomy and doing an neck dissection? I will have feeding tube and neck tube.  I was wondering if anyone could share their experiences with me.  I would like to know what to expect - is having surgery on front part of tongue base of tongue the worse tongue cancer? They said my is stage 1 T1 and not sure what that means? I am sorry for asking so many questions.  I pray for everyone on this board whether they believe in God or not you must know that you are loved and thought about.  God Bless everyone for helping me.  I have never experienced anything like this in my life.  How long will I be in the hospital I weigh around 105 lbs.  I am 57 year old female I am worried about losing a lot of weight I am not a big person and really am afraid of everything that is going to happen to me and losing weight will that affect me much?  How much will I lose? Is there any chance to go back being able to eat soft foods or anythign like that after the tubes come out? Will I be able to talk and swallow? Can I live a normal life? Please if anyone has anything to share with me whatsoever please do. Having people to talk to on this forum has been a life saver I am rather hopeless and in despair really bad.  I take care of my family my twin sister and mom and I dont want to die. I had so much I wanted to accomplish and give to them.  Thank you for listening to me and if I am writing to much or anything like that please let me know. 

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  • stevenpepe
    stevenpepe Member Posts: 234
    I had exactly what you have

    Hi Sabrina,

    All cancer can be bad but you should be fine. Stage one is encouraging so they will remove that portion of your tongue and take a bunch of nodes in your neck to see if it spread. If any node has cancer, then you will need radiation and maybe chemo with it.

    For me, the cancer wound up being on both sides of my neck, even though it's rare. So I went through it twice in one year and the second surgery and treatments left me badly scarred and damaged.

    If you don't experience that, and only need surgery, you'll only have to deal with a speech impediment.

    If you need radiation, then you'll experience dry mouth, tongue and gum sores, mucositis, and burns on your neck. The radiation will have an affect on you for the rest of your life. You may even experience jaw issues that affect motion to open your mouth. Because of my extensive issues I can only open my mouth the width of one finger. It's very frustrating.

    I honestly would ask why they are not checking both sides of your neck. My second cancer showed up on early PET scans and was dismissed as inflammation. Had they'd done both sides during the first surgery, my life would be much better. Pay attention to your scans and learn to read them. If you see signs of possible cancer, question it. Sometimes the doctors overlook things that can have a serious affect on your life. I wish I had.

    Keep us posted on your progress and I will pray it hasn't spread.so that you can move on with your life much easier.

  • stevenpepe
    stevenpepe Member Posts: 234
    By the way

    T1 just means your tumor size is less than one centimeter. That's just the tumor size. You'll get an official staging after the surgery. If it's in your nodes you'll most likely go to a stage 3. And if it's spread to distant organs, then a stage four. Don't worry. It's not necessarily a death sentence although it's best not to have it spread. I'm cancer free 2 1/2 years after my last treatments and I was stage 3.

    I had the neck tube for drainage but no feeding tube. I ate liquids for a week after surgery then slowly introduced soft foods. In a month I was eating normally again. You'll be fine but expect a challenge for a while.

  • Sabrina23
    Sabrina23 Member Posts: 103 Member

    By the way

    T1 just means your tumor size is less than one centimeter. That's just the tumor size. You'll get an official staging after the surgery. If it's in your nodes you'll most likely go to a stage 3. And if it's spread to distant organs, then a stage four. Don't worry. It's not necessarily a death sentence although it's best not to have it spread. I'm cancer free 2 1/2 years after my last treatments and I was stage 3.

    I had the neck tube for drainage but no feeding tube. I ate liquids for a week after surgery then slowly introduced soft foods. In a month I was eating normally again. You'll be fine but expect a challenge for a while.

    Stage 1 tongue cancer Thank you Steven Pepe

    Thank you Steven Pepe for the posts adn replying back to me with your shared experience.  it is really helpful and encouraging to konw that there is hope  and Thank God you are cancer free after 2 1/2 years.  How long after surgery do I have to wait to get the official staging?  Do they tell me like right after my surgery or I have to wait a week or so for results.  I had a cat scan of my neck done and it came back clean with no signs of metastic growths.  I go for my pet scan on Tueseday of this week.  Will the pet scan show if it went into my lymph nodes or spread? Or does the neck dissection show that kind of results? Let me know.  With them doing a glossectomy on me does that mean they are going to cut out a lot of my tongue they said they are doing a thigh graft on me to reconstruct my tongue? Is that how yours went? I worry that I won't be able to talk or swallow or be normal with part of my tongue cut out?  Do they take alot out of it? I am scared beyond what I can explain but I konw you know what I am talking about.  Is the feeding tube a must after my surgery they told me I had to have one for at least 3 to more than 5 days etc.  I wish I did not have to have the feeding tube?  I don't know why it is so..... the neck tube I think I can deal with.... If you can share more with me please do I apologize for having so many questions.  I just want to be able to know that I can live a long long life there is so much I want to do with my life with my twin sister and my mom.  We work together and live together.  We do everything together.  I hate that when you go online to places they only give you like a 60% chance to live for maybe 5 years or less....that kind of stuff scares me is it true? Or can you go on and live a good long normal life?

  • stevenpepe
    stevenpepe Member Posts: 234
    Sabrina23 said:

    Stage 1 tongue cancer Thank you Steven Pepe

    Thank you Steven Pepe for the posts adn replying back to me with your shared experience.  it is really helpful and encouraging to konw that there is hope  and Thank God you are cancer free after 2 1/2 years.  How long after surgery do I have to wait to get the official staging?  Do they tell me like right after my surgery or I have to wait a week or so for results.  I had a cat scan of my neck done and it came back clean with no signs of metastic growths.  I go for my pet scan on Tueseday of this week.  Will the pet scan show if it went into my lymph nodes or spread? Or does the neck dissection show that kind of results? Let me know.  With them doing a glossectomy on me does that mean they are going to cut out a lot of my tongue they said they are doing a thigh graft on me to reconstruct my tongue? Is that how yours went? I worry that I won't be able to talk or swallow or be normal with part of my tongue cut out?  Do they take alot out of it? I am scared beyond what I can explain but I konw you know what I am talking about.  Is the feeding tube a must after my surgery they told me I had to have one for at least 3 to more than 5 days etc.  I wish I did not have to have the feeding tube?  I don't know why it is so..... the neck tube I think I can deal with.... If you can share more with me please do I apologize for having so many questions.  I just want to be able to know that I can live a long long life there is so much I want to do with my life with my twin sister and my mom.  We work together and live together.  We do everything together.  I hate that when you go online to places they only give you like a 60% chance to live for maybe 5 years or less....that kind of stuff scares me is it true? Or can you go on and live a good long normal life?

    Staging will be complete once

    Staging will be complete once your surgery is over and they biopsy your lymph nodes. That should be complete in a couple of weeks. You can always ask your doctor or request your medical records to verify everything. The neck dissection is the most accurate because they biopsy the tissue, which is needed for confirmation of cancer. The PET scan only shows cellular activity which might be cancer, might be not. But docs can usually tell if the activity is cancer.

    Both tumors I had were not found through scans. I saw and felt both of them and the scans confirmed it.

    My team at Sloan Kettering did not do a tongue reconstruction on me. Why some do and some don't I can't tell you. I lost about 1/4 of my tongue on the left side so expect about the same being we had the same size tumor. Overall, my speech has been affected, I can no longer sing like I used to, some words are more difficult to pronounce (t's and d's) and shouting is not an option either. The radiation causes significant impairment but it's the one treatment that is known to destroy cancer cells. I had an awful lot so I'm one of those special cases.

    If you don't want the feeding tube THEN SAY SO! My docs said they don't do them unless absolutely necessary. They want you to eat and swallow right away because you can lose the ability to do so if you don't exercise those muscles. If only for 3 to 5 days, tell them you'll drink liquids for that time. Insist on it if you don't want it. The neck tube is not an option as they use it to drain fluids from the area of surgery.

    Don't look at statistics. I know I did it a thousand times but there are so many variables that determine life expectancy. Just because you have cancer doesn't mean you're going to die from it. Most people survive it these days. Just accept it for what it is and do what your doctors tell you. However, as I've said in my other posts, stay on top of everything and if you don't feel comfortable or if you have questions, speak up. It's your life and future.

    By the way, I am also a twin. In fact, my mom had 2 sets of twins. My twin brother smokes like a chimney to this day and I'm the one with cancer, even though I have a very short history with tobacco. Life is unfair sometimes.

  • Sabrina23
    Sabrina23 Member Posts: 103 Member

    Staging will be complete once

    Staging will be complete once your surgery is over and they biopsy your lymph nodes. That should be complete in a couple of weeks. You can always ask your doctor or request your medical records to verify everything. The neck dissection is the most accurate because they biopsy the tissue, which is needed for confirmation of cancer. The PET scan only shows cellular activity which might be cancer, might be not. But docs can usually tell if the activity is cancer.

    Both tumors I had were not found through scans. I saw and felt both of them and the scans confirmed it.

    My team at Sloan Kettering did not do a tongue reconstruction on me. Why some do and some don't I can't tell you. I lost about 1/4 of my tongue on the left side so expect about the same being we had the same size tumor. Overall, my speech has been affected, I can no longer sing like I used to, some words are more difficult to pronounce (t's and d's) and shouting is not an option either. The radiation causes significant impairment but it's the one treatment that is known to destroy cancer cells. I had an awful lot so I'm one of those special cases.

    If you don't want the feeding tube THEN SAY SO! My docs said they don't do them unless absolutely necessary. They want you to eat and swallow right away because you can lose the ability to do so if you don't exercise those muscles. If only for 3 to 5 days, tell them you'll drink liquids for that time. Insist on it if you don't want it. The neck tube is not an option as they use it to drain fluids from the area of surgery.

    Don't look at statistics. I know I did it a thousand times but there are so many variables that determine life expectancy. Just because you have cancer doesn't mean you're going to die from it. Most people survive it these days. Just accept it for what it is and do what your doctors tell you. However, as I've said in my other posts, stay on top of everything and if you don't feel comfortable or if you have questions, speak up. It's your life and future.

    By the way, I am also a twin. In fact, my mom had 2 sets of twins. My twin brother smokes like a chimney to this day and I'm the one with cancer, even though I have a very short history with tobacco. Life is unfair sometimes.

    Twin having tongue cancer

    it is very helpful and comforting your words and I pray for your well being and cancer free long life ahead. I am afraid of the tongue reconstruction why do they need to do that on me a flap reconstruction wtih glossectomy and neck dissection? it is alot to comprehend... I am underweight they said before operation on June 3rd - I don't konw how I am gonig to gain weight my body just does not gain weight I have been little my whole life.  Will I be okay with nutrition and being able to eat after surgery?  I want to be able to swallow and eat normally - does the feeding tube get in the way of eating do you have to take all your nutrtion from the feeding tube or can you eat a little food... or soft foods I don't know what to expect there - have you heard of a tongue flap reconstruction is it serious? Or just part of the protocol..... are they common in tongue cancer?  Oh Steven, I just want to be cancer free with no spread to lymph nodes and no perineural invastion.  I just want to get it cut out and that be the end of it.  I am praying so hard for a miracle please pray with me too.  Thank you for everything you have done for me.  Will I be able to talk and speak and swallow?  I want to get out of the hospital in a matter of days.... is that doable?  Is there anyway a stage 1 can go back to a stage 0 after lymph node removal..... just asking 

  • ERomanO
    ERomanO Member Posts: 323 Member
    Sabrina23 said:

    Twin having tongue cancer

    it is very helpful and comforting your words and I pray for your well being and cancer free long life ahead. I am afraid of the tongue reconstruction why do they need to do that on me a flap reconstruction wtih glossectomy and neck dissection? it is alot to comprehend... I am underweight they said before operation on June 3rd - I don't konw how I am gonig to gain weight my body just does not gain weight I have been little my whole life.  Will I be okay with nutrition and being able to eat after surgery?  I want to be able to swallow and eat normally - does the feeding tube get in the way of eating do you have to take all your nutrtion from the feeding tube or can you eat a little food... or soft foods I don't know what to expect there - have you heard of a tongue flap reconstruction is it serious? Or just part of the protocol..... are they common in tongue cancer?  Oh Steven, I just want to be cancer free with no spread to lymph nodes and no perineural invastion.  I just want to get it cut out and that be the end of it.  I am praying so hard for a miracle please pray with me too.  Thank you for everything you have done for me.  Will I be able to talk and speak and swallow?  I want to get out of the hospital in a matter of days.... is that doable?  Is there anyway a stage 1 can go back to a stage 0 after lymph node removal..... just asking 

    Sabrina, you have a LOT of

    Sabrina, you have a LOT of questions and I have to ask if you have talked to your doctors about all these questions?  We are all here to help, but I think you may be overwhelming the members here and need to lean on your doctors for some answers.

  • Sabrina23
    Sabrina23 Member Posts: 103 Member
    ERomanO said:

    Sabrina, you have a LOT of

    Sabrina, you have a LOT of questions and I have to ask if you have talked to your doctors about all these questions?  We are all here to help, but I think you may be overwhelming the members here and need to lean on your doctors for some answers.

    sincerely apologize

    I sincerely apologize for overwhelming the members not my intent to do so with all my questions.  It is my first time having such a diagnosis and am in a state of mind I have never been in before. Please forgive me.

  • MarineE5
    MarineE5 Member Posts: 1,034 Member
    Sabrina23 said:

    sincerely apologize

    I sincerely apologize for overwhelming the members not my intent to do so with all my questions.  It is my first time having such a diagnosis and am in a state of mind I have never been in before. Please forgive me.

    No Apology Needed

    Sabrina,

    I have been following along with your posts and even replied to one of your first posts. We are here to help each person that posts. Some of your posts do repeat themselves, but I contribute that to your being nervous about what lays ahead for you next week. Is your surgery a walk in the park? by no means, any surgery is serious. 

    If I told you I wasn't nervous about my own Surgery years ago, I would be lying. But in order for me to beat the cancer I had, I told the Surgeon I wanted the Tumor out of me completely and hit me with the kitchen sink when it came to treatments because I only want to do this once. As I mentioned, I had part of my tongue removed, Radicial Neck Disection, Trach, Drain tubes, PEG Tube for nutrition. I got thru it, you will too.

    We all have choices to make each day so if it helps calm your nerves by asking questions here, do so, those that choice to reply will, those that don't will not. All are welcome. You will get thru this, but it will not be like catching a cold, it is a slow process.

    My Best to You, All Your Family and Everyone Here

  • ERomanO
    ERomanO Member Posts: 323 Member
    Sabrina23 said:

    sincerely apologize

    I sincerely apologize for overwhelming the members not my intent to do so with all my questions.  It is my first time having such a diagnosis and am in a state of mind I have never been in before. Please forgive me.

    No apology needed

    I'm just concerned that you may not get all your questions answered.  Every one of us here have also been a first-timer, and some a second and third. I know that I felt very similar when I first heard the doctor say after scoping my throat that he "supects there's a tumor at the base of the tongue and that it has spread into two lymph nodes".  I was shocked!  I just always thought that heart disease was the nemisis that I would have to face, not cancer!?!?!?

    Have you read thr Superthread?  Have you tried doing some searches to read through some previous threads to see if you can find older conversations that may answer your questions?  And most importantly are your doctors giving you ample information?  I understand how even if you are getting info from your docs your brain may not be absobing all of it because you're all wound up from this whole ordeal (we'll call it an ordeal for now, but later you can switch to calling it a journey).

  • swopoe
    swopoe Member Posts: 492
    Get a notebook. Write all of

    Get a notebook. Write all of your questions down and take it to your doctor appointment and ask the questions. I had a notebook that I brought to every appointment my husband had. It got to be funny- the rad doctor would say “There’s that notebook again.” Because he knew I was going to hit him with questions. If you don’t have any appointment before your surgery, call your doctor and ask. But don’t get ahead of yourself with chemo and radiation, as it may not be needed. It really depends on what they find during surgery. Take it one step at a time.

  • johnsonbl
    johnsonbl Member Posts: 266 Member
    Sabrina23 said:

    Twin having tongue cancer

    it is very helpful and comforting your words and I pray for your well being and cancer free long life ahead. I am afraid of the tongue reconstruction why do they need to do that on me a flap reconstruction wtih glossectomy and neck dissection? it is alot to comprehend... I am underweight they said before operation on June 3rd - I don't konw how I am gonig to gain weight my body just does not gain weight I have been little my whole life.  Will I be okay with nutrition and being able to eat after surgery?  I want to be able to swallow and eat normally - does the feeding tube get in the way of eating do you have to take all your nutrtion from the feeding tube or can you eat a little food... or soft foods I don't know what to expect there - have you heard of a tongue flap reconstruction is it serious? Or just part of the protocol..... are they common in tongue cancer?  Oh Steven, I just want to be cancer free with no spread to lymph nodes and no perineural invastion.  I just want to get it cut out and that be the end of it.  I am praying so hard for a miracle please pray with me too.  Thank you for everything you have done for me.  Will I be able to talk and speak and swallow?  I want to get out of the hospital in a matter of days.... is that doable?  Is there anyway a stage 1 can go back to a stage 0 after lymph node removal..... just asking 

    Try to slow down just a bit...

    As others have said, it's a very difficult time when you are diagnosed with cancer...your mind races, it happened to all of us.

     

    From what I can tell, you have HPV- squamous cell carcinoma on the tip of your tongue that by CT does not appear to have spread to your lymph nodes in your neck.  Your surgeons are recommending that it be surgically removed (glossectomy) and rebuilt (flap reconstruction).  The neck dissection is needed for them to trace from your tongue through the lymphatic system...they will go from node to node and look for cancer cells.  If they don't find any and they get good margins on your tumor then, according to what I'm seeing in the NCCN guidelines, you may very well end up just having these surgeries with no chemo or radiation.  If they do find cells or if your tumor has high risk features such as perineural invasion then you will likely have radiation or a combination of radiation and chemotherapy.

    Likely, the feeding tube is just while your tongue reconstruction heals...they probably don't want you using your tongue so that it can heal.  Have you ever tried to not use/move your tongue for even 5 minutes?  It's basically impossible.  :-)  So they may very well stabilize it while it heals, don't know...question for Steven.  So I would believe that the feeding tube will be a short lived thing.  There is zero reason why post surgery that you wouldn't be encouraged to eat normally.  Often, head and neck cancer patients do end up on longer term feeding tubes particularly when given radiation and chemo together...  These treatments can be especially hard on the throat and someone like yourself who is already a small person may not be able to get enough nutrition without one.  But, we get ahead of ourselves here...

    You won't have a final "stage" until they are sure that you don't have any cancer in your neck.  But lets assume that you don't.  Then you would be stage 1.  Stage 1 is a good place to be.  There is no stage 0 once you are diagnosed with cancer.  You can be considered cured of that cancer but your disease will always be referred to as that specific stage.  The good news is that the 5 year survival rate for localized tongue cancer is >80%...meaning that 8 out of 10 people who are diagnosed with this disease are still alive after 5 years.  This is very good in the grand scheme of things.  So focus on that, that your disease is localized to only the tip of your tongue and that they will get all of it.

    So long story short, until you have your surgery and they can look at the tumor and check your lymph nodes you won't know exactly what your treatment plan will be.  You might end up with just surgery...you might get all of the different treatments.  In any case, it's not the end of the world and you'll get through it.

    Brandon

  • Sabrina23
    Sabrina23 Member Posts: 103 Member
    Thank you all sincerely for helping me get thru this

    I want to thank you all for helping me get thru this - your words, experiences and thoughts have helped me understand better my situation and what is expected and as I am still tryping to cope with the diagnosis.  I am frightened beyond belief.  I am so scared.  I hope you all can bare with me as I continue to write posts because I have so much that is going on in my mind and to have you all to talk to really helps.  I am grateful to you all for writing me back. 

  • ERomanO
    ERomanO Member Posts: 323 Member
    I think you need to try to

    I think you need to try to remove emotion from your life for a while.  Being "frightened beyond belief" and "so scared" is understandable, but not helpful.  Your cancer is HPV+ (is that right? I apologize if I missed that detail) and stage 1.  That makes it very treatable.  You are 57, and I think many of us will say that you're just a youngster, so that makes you more resilient.  Get as much information from your medical team as possible, and make sure to have a second set of eyes and ears with you anytime you are meeting with them.  I am not so emotionally driven, but fairly ADD afflicted, so having someone with me really helped.  As you progress through your journey you will have not only the full support of your medical team, but the survivors team too.

    You can do this!

  • wbcgaruss
    wbcgaruss Member Posts: 2,468 Member
    Sabrina23 said:

    Thank you all sincerely for helping me get thru this

    I want to thank you all for helping me get thru this - your words, experiences and thoughts have helped me understand better my situation and what is expected and as I am still tryping to cope with the diagnosis.  I am frightened beyond belief.  I am so scared.  I hope you all can bare with me as I continue to write posts because I have so much that is going on in my mind and to have you all to talk to really helps.  I am grateful to you all for writing me back. 

    Sabrina23 With All the Communication

    you have done with the members on this board and with your medical team, you should not be frightened beyond belief. You have to set that aside and lean on your medical team and get an I'm gonna do this attitude, get rid of the fear, trade it in for confidence and a can do, no will do attitude. Settle down, you got this. You have very curable cancer. I had stage 4 throat cancer when I was 58, tough haul but I am here to tell ya you will do this just one day at a time every day till you come out the other side being NED. So get unafraid, get aggressive, say I'm gonna do this I will not let this defeat me I am the victor here. OK, I might be gettin carried away here but you know what I'm sayin. Trust in God, trust your medical team and we're here for ya. God Bless

  • Sabrina23
    Sabrina23 Member Posts: 103 Member
    ERomanO said:

    I think you need to try to

    I think you need to try to remove emotion from your life for a while.  Being "frightened beyond belief" and "so scared" is understandable, but not helpful.  Your cancer is HPV+ (is that right? I apologize if I missed that detail) and stage 1.  That makes it very treatable.  You are 57, and I think many of us will say that you're just a youngster, so that makes you more resilient.  Get as much information from your medical team as possible, and make sure to have a second set of eyes and ears with you anytime you are meeting with them.  I am not so emotionally driven, but fairly ADD afflicted, so having someone with me really helped.  As you progress through your journey you will have not only the full support of your medical team, but the survivors team too.

    You can do this!

    I think so to I do need to try to

    HI ERomanO and everyone - I don't think I am HPV positive they never said that I was.  I thank you all for your thoughts, kindness and sharing your experiences.  It is getting closer to June 3 which is the big day of surgery.  Your words of wisdom and encouragement are more than needed and I am blessed to know you all.  My twin sister Karen, will keep you all posted and share more information with you.  She will use my user name so the message will be coming from Sabrina23. 

  • tommyodavey
    tommyodavey Member Posts: 728 Member
    Sabrina23 said:

    I think so to I do need to try to

    HI ERomanO and everyone - I don't think I am HPV positive they never said that I was.  I thank you all for your thoughts, kindness and sharing your experiences.  It is getting closer to June 3 which is the big day of surgery.  Your words of wisdom and encouragement are more than needed and I am blessed to know you all.  My twin sister Karen, will keep you all posted and share more information with you.  She will use my user name so the message will be coming from Sabrina23. 

    Million Questions

    Hi Sabrina23,  we all have many questions when first diagnosed.  My suggestion is for you to have someone come with you on your next appointment.  For me, after hearing I had cancer, almost every word after that was waa waa waa, etc.  My wife went with me  and asked most of the questions.  She had a notebook and wrote it all down.  See if you can bring a close friend or significant other with you next time.

    Don't worry so much.  It's not a death sentence.  Plus, they caught it early.  You'll be okay.

  • motorcycleguy
    motorcycleguy Member Posts: 483 Member
    It's so scary, when you first start finding out.

    Sabrina,

    I found out about Nasopharyngeal Cancer about 5 months ago. Since then, I've had treatments ... and in one month I should be done with them.

    It's natural for you to be very nervous and concerned about what's happening. Just trust me, when I tell you that Cancer treatment has come a long ways.  Wait until you find out what you're going to have to deal with, and meet the challenges.

    Someday, you will be done with your treatments, and well on your way to a normal life again ... and that life could be another 30-40 years or more!!

    I wish you the best of luck, and I have a feeling you're going to get through any treatment that is required - and kick it!

    motorcycleguy