Hormone therapy

seasontickets
seasontickets Member Posts: 6
edited May 2018 in Prostate Cancer #1

I went to the oncologist today who says to go back to urology and get hormone treatment.Otherwise any raditation treatments would leave me permanently incontinent.I had a Gleason score of 9.Last saw my pas was .8.New here,so don't know what to expect or how soon I will be able to pee on my own.He also showed me where my bladder was thickens but didn't know what was going on there.How can you delete a post here?

 

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  • seasontickets
    seasontickets Member Posts: 6
    #2
    Thickening of the bladder wall

    My oncologist showed the ct scan where the bladder wall is getting thicker all up the left side.He has no ideal what it is but says I might need another cystolomy to get a look at it.Speaking of which,have any of you had to get a meatatomy more than once?Anyone ever seen the that thickening before And know what it is?

  • Grinder
    Grinder Member Posts: 487 Member
    #3
    I 'm still relatively new

    I 'm still relatively new here, so you should have some of the experienced guys talk about this, but my guess on the thickening of the bladder wall may be excessive cell growth similar to benign tumors. Cells divide and grow and die as regulated, but sometimes they replicate faster than they are regulated to, and so a mass of that particular type of cell, bladder wall cells, will start to build up. A thicker wall may cause the bladder not to function exactly as it should. Sort of like a balloon deflating. Normally it would collapse evenly, but if one side is thick it will deflate the thin side mostly. The thick wall wont expand and contract the way the bladder was designed. The exact thickness of a normal bladder wall is probably the optimum. Any thicker or thinner may result in less optimum performance. Score one for the Creative Designer paradigm of Origins.

    The balloon/bladder analogy is a good one, because if you have ever had air pumped into your bladder, it deflates like a balloon would.

    The other explanation could be swelling from irritation. Have you been using catheters or Foley catheters? That could do it. Or a bladder infection from the same. Your urologist probably doesn't want to hazard a guess until he can know more about it.

    But  I can offer some guesses since this is an opinion only.... hopefully some body more familiar with this can speak more authoritatively on the subject... especially why radiation can lead to permanent incontinence. Although they may need more information to hazard a guess.

     

  • Grinder
    Grinder Member Posts: 487 Member
    #4
    You can

    You can delete a post by emailing the site administrators and tell tehm and they will delete. Or you can edit the post and just leave a sentence or two and delete the unwanted parts... using the edit button at the bottom of your post.

    Admin has deleted some stuff for me when I was afraid of overstepping copyrights. I try to use copyright free material, but I am never 100% sure. I am not opposed to organizations in the medical field from copyrighting, because if they dont, someone else will take their  material that they worked and copyright it, then forbid the creators from using it in the future.

    Too bad orgs like ACS cant get a blanket copyright license. Christian Praise and Worship music has exactly that. For a small fee you can get a CCLI license that allows you to copy and perform published copyrighted music.

    If I could I would have diagrams and pictures all over this forum. I wanted to post pictures of how Cyberknife works, but I dont know  what's copyrighted.

    But anyway, just ask them and they can delete it. 

  • Grinder
    Grinder Member Posts: 487 Member
    #5
    profile pic

    is amusing... Though it appears to be fantastical hyperbole, there is a tradition about a small gate in the gates of the wall surrounding Jerusalem. All the gates were closed at night, except for "the eye of the needle".

    "There is a gate called the Eye of the Needle. It is large enough for a man to pass through by ducking and squeezing, but a camel could never fit through, much less one with a person riding on it."

    That way individuals could come home, but invading armies couldnt get in at night.

     But the city of Jerusalem was razed to the ground by Emperor Hadrian during the Bar Kochba revolt around 138 AD, and Hadrian built a Roman plotted city over it. So there is no archeological evidence for it. And the Jews were exiled from Palestine under pain of death... including my Ashkenazi Jewish ancestors in Europe according to Ancestry.com.

  • seasontickets
    seasontickets Member Posts: 6
    #6
    Grinder said:

    I 'm still relatively new

    I 'm still relatively new here, so you should have some of the experienced guys talk about this, but my guess on the thickening of the bladder wall may be excessive cell growth similar to benign tumors. Cells divide and grow and die as regulated, but sometimes they replicate faster than they are regulated to, and so a mass of that particular type of cell, bladder wall cells, will start to build up. A thicker wall may cause the bladder not to function exactly as it should. Sort of like a balloon deflating. Normally it would collapse evenly, but if one side is thick it will deflate the thin side mostly. The thick wall wont expand and contract the way the bladder was designed. The exact thickness of a normal bladder wall is probably the optimum. Any thicker or thinner may result in less optimum performance. Score one for the Creative Designer paradigm of Origins.

    The balloon/bladder analogy is a good one, because if you have ever had air pumped into your bladder, it deflates like a balloon would.

    The other explanation could be swelling from irritation. Have you been using catheters or Foley catheters? That could do it. Or a bladder infection from the same. Your urologist probably doesn't want to hazard a guess until he can know more about it.

    But  I can offer some guesses since this is an opinion only.... hopefully some body more familiar with this can speak more authoritatively on the subject... especially why radiation can lead to permanent incontinence. Although they may need more information to hazard a guess.

     

    Bladder wall thickeni

    Thanks.Im new too,and had trouble locating my threads.

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