Supplements During Treatment

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    #22
    OO7 said:

    Important to note

    There are those who do all the right things and strive who will be better for it and never get cancer.  

    Then there's mutant cell me.  I should say I have been a vegetarian for almost thirty years, organic as many well know on this site.  Very physically fit but what I didn't tell you, I drank insane amounts of Diet Coke for years.  Never water, swore I was allergic to It.  I wonder, my father worked around chemicals.  Is there some secondary chemical effect?  We were both diagnosed within three weeks of each other?  Where I lived?  Yet hopefully no one else in my family will get it..... ???

    Being a vegetarian too has it problems, before diagnosis I didn't clean them the way we all should.  There is a link to pesticides and lymphoma.  Let's not forget, to protect oneself via food we would have to eat bushels full everyday and drinks so much red wine we would be admitted into the Betty Ford CliniC and still there are no guarantee.

    I have have stage IV follicular.  I'm told this is more prevalent in men, who are overweight, in there 70's and carnivores.  I have always been very thin, in my forties when diagnosised, vegetarian and very much a female.  My dad was in his late 70's (miss him so much it hurts) smoked, I never did.  Drank Beer, I drink wine, he never worked out, I was and will be again a gym rat.  He ate meat, I eat leaves.

    Random indeed!

    Finally I eat anything and everything I want, always have.  I quite simply prefer the foods that make me FEEL better.  I never ate to be healthy but to perform.  Food is fuel to me.  I gave up meat when I was 13 for Lent.  On Easter I recall eating meat and recalling how I felt.  The long digestive process, sluggish feeling wasn't for me.  That's the only reason I became a vegetarian.

    Off my soap box for now and getting a glass of wine!  May we all have a Happy, Healty New Year.

     

     

    LOL

    i have a friend who has terminal lung cancer. She doesn't like diet coke but she has started eating bacon, started drinking scotch and refuses to wear a seat belt. Eat absolutely anything you want but only eat half of it. As for the seat belt well.......

  • lindary
    lindary Member Posts: 711 Member
    #23
    Kaniksu said:

    Supplements

    That was the advice from my oncologist....don't interrupt the known actions on the chemo drugs with supplements...I have chosen to listen to her.  It is just hard trying to deal with people that don't have cancer telling you what you should be doing......

    Being told what you should do

    I know what you mean. I heard all sorts of things from people who lost a loved one to cancer. I think some of them were convinced that if the person they lost had done something different or ate healthier foods, they would have survived. 

    One brother-in-law was diagnosed with stage 4 small cell lung cancer in 2005 and given 6 months. His roommate keep giving him a lot of health foods to help cure him. Several of his siblings, who live in another state, felt his Drs were incompetent and he should got better ones. They based it on the research they did on lung cancer (non-small cell lung cancer) and it seemed to take forever to get through to them that what they read about what not the same cancer that their brother had. 

    So when I let them I had cancer I got all sorts of recommendations from that crew. Like you, I chose to listen to my drs first, other cancer survivors second and these well meaning relatives & friends. Well I nod and tell them what they said is interesting, then change the subject. 

    I do make one exception. I work with some people who are from other countries. I am always interested in hearing what friends or family members back in their home land do when dealing with cancer. Not looking for a miracle cure, just hearing about differences in treatment, or not. 

    Linda

  • Max Former Hodgkins Stage 3
    Max Former Hodgkins Stage 3 Member Posts: 3,817 Member
    #24
    unknown said:

    LOL

    i have a friend who has terminal lung cancer. She doesn't like diet coke but she has started eating bacon, started drinking scotch and refuses to wear a seat belt. Eat absolutely anything you want but only eat half of it. As for the seat belt well.......

    Sagely

    GK,

    My granddad was a Kansas wheat farmer. At dinner grandma would watch us, telling us to eat the veggies first. If she walked away to get something, he alsways whispered to us, "Eat what you like, and hide the other stuff in your pocket."

    I don't know why, but he outlived her by about ten years.....

     

    max

  • Unknown
    Unknown
    #25
    Max Former Hodgkins Stage 3 said:

    Sagely

    GK,

    My granddad was a Kansas wheat farmer. At dinner grandma would watch us, telling us to eat the veggies first. If she walked away to get something, he alsways whispered to us, "Eat what you like, and hide the other stuff in your pocket."

    I don't know why, but he outlived her by about ten years.....

     

    max

    Funny!

    and I'll bet he even ate the demon bread? You know, the stuff made from his wheat. AKA "staff of life".

  • OO7
    OO7 Member Posts: 281
    #26
    unknown said:

    LOL

    i have a friend who has terminal lung cancer. She doesn't like diet coke but she has started eating bacon, started drinking scotch and refuses to wear a seat belt. Eat absolutely anything you want but only eat half of it. As for the seat belt well.......

    I can understand your friend

    for about a nano second I too felt a bit sassy but I'm not terminal.  Sorry for you and you friend.

    Wearing the seatbelt and eating the whole darn bushel (not half)

  • Teobeck
    Teobeck Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2018 #27
    Ketogenic Diet

    I'm 78, recently fiagnosed with follicular lymphoma. Being treated at Emory Winship. A year prior to diagnosis I went on keto diet to lose weight, and lost 35 lbs, 214 to 179. Lost 6 inches in waist. BP went from 140/90 to 120/80. Lipids went to normal. Aches and pains disappeared. Could breathe and sleep much deeper and better. Energy went up, and mental focus increased. BMI perfect. I supplemented with fiber, magnesium, CoQ-10, vitamins D, E and B-12, and fish oil per Drs. William Davis (Wheat Belly), Permulmutter, and Mercola. Use olive oil instead of coconut oil. Only carbs come from green veggies and mixed berries. I stay hydrated.

    Blood tests after biopsy and CT Scan showed everything else normal levels (kidneys, heart, lipids, liver) except lymphoma. I do not yet present with symptoms. Emory lymphoma nutritionist advised I stay on this diet as it would bode well for any chemo treatment. (At first Hematologist didn't like it, but obviously didn't understand it). Nutritionist advised that human endocrine system, digestive system, etc. continue to operate the way they were designed despite lymphoma, and that the healthier they are, the better they can function. That made sense to me.

    I firmly believe that too much sugar (from carbs) combined wih too little fruits and veggies are cause of spiralling obesity, which is causing equally spiralling health problems. A healthy diet won't prevent or cure cancer, but it will help one's systems withstand it longer and better (IMHO).  

  • ShadyGuy
    ShadyGuy Member Posts: 922 Member
    #28
    Keto diet

    A family member aged 50 was put on a keto diet 3 years ago to treat epilepsy. It required hospitalization to get her started. It did not work for her. Have you considered the Adkins diet? They appear very similar but Adkins is much less dangerous.

  • PBL
    PBL Member Posts: 366 Member
    #29
    ShadyGuy said:

    Keto diet

    A family member aged 50 was put on a keto diet 3 years ago to treat epilepsy. It required hospitalization to get her started. It did not work for her. Have you considered the Adkins diet? They appear very similar but Adkins is much less dangerous.

    Off-topic...

    ... what a beautiful bird picture, ShadyGuy! Is that a Green Heron?

  • ShadyGuy
    ShadyGuy Member Posts: 922 Member
    #30
    PBL said:

    Off-topic...

    ... what a beautiful bird picture, ShadyGuy! Is that a Green Heron?

    Yes it is

    i am in Florida keys as we speak. I love birds of all kinds.

  • Rexmax
    Rexmax Member Posts: 55 Member
    #31
    Hi all

    Really nothing new just wanted to say hi, still waiting on approval for a Pet Scan ( denied in Oct.) hopefully will get approved this time. Feb 1st will get 3rd Rituxan maintenance. Taste still off and saliva almost none but eating whatever I can and still maintaning my weight. I know I don't chime in much, but sure enjoy reading all your post and so grateful I found this site with you all. Have a great day all! Lillian 

  • ShadyGuy
    ShadyGuy Member Posts: 922 Member
    #32
    ShadyGuy said:

    Yes it is

    i am in Florida keys as we speak. I love birds of all kinds.

    Accidentally ....

    erased it. Also saw giant cranes and the usual pelicans, egrets, gulls, ospreys, herons etc.

  • PBL
    PBL Member Posts: 366 Member
    #33
    ShadyGuy said:

    Accidentally ....

    erased it. Also saw giant cranes and the usual pelicans, egrets, gulls, ospreys, herons etc.

    Lucky you!

    ... wish I were in the keys myself. I too love birds. Too bad you erased the pic - glad I was able to see it while it was there, though...

  • PBL
    PBL Member Posts: 366 Member
    edited January 2018 #34
    Rexmax said:

    Hi all

    Really nothing new just wanted to say hi, still waiting on approval for a Pet Scan ( denied in Oct.) hopefully will get approved this time. Feb 1st will get 3rd Rituxan maintenance. Taste still off and saliva almost none but eating whatever I can and still maintaning my weight. I know I don't chime in much, but sure enjoy reading all your post and so grateful I found this site with you all. Have a great day all! Lillian 

    Hi Lillian

    Good to see you're gradually recovering (seems like a neverending process, doesn't it?) and still popping by from time to time!

    PBL

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