newly diagnosed squamous cell anal cancer
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pacificnwpacificnw said:mp327
You are so sweet! It's not so much "sores" as my inside cheecks and tongue are coated and swollen. I don't want them to think I over-react to every symptom...
I would not worry about overreacting. When a person is getting cancer treatment, their body's defenses are down and something minor can quickly become something major. Please let the nurse or doctor know about this issue today (especially with the holiday coming up). IMO, that is the wise thing to do.
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Thanksgiving & Thrush - Yippee!
Thanks for the advice about going to the doctor. Turns out I had a bad case of thrush. I'm just thankful for any and all symptoms I haven't had to deal with yet.
I do have another question. Tomorrow my family of 40+ are having dinner, etc. at my son's house. My husband told everyone I wouldn't be attending, so I have an easy out if I want it. I'm confused/concerned though, about how my immune system is functioning at this point? I finished chemo Sunday night. I was thinking the minute it was done I was on my way to building my immune system. Now, after reading a bit, I'm not so sure. I would love input if anyone has a few minutes. I truly am fine not going if it is in my best interest, so that part of the equation is not really an issue. Thanks!
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pacificnw
Actually, following a round of chemo, you may feel worse for several days. There is a term, Nadir, that is used for the lowest point for blood cell counts during a chemo cycle, which for anal cancer is typically 28 days. Most people have chemo days 1 through 4, then again on days 29 through 32. Day 14 would logically be Nadir during round 1. If I am reading your above posts correctly, your first day of treatment was Nov. 15th., so you have not yet reached the point of Nadir. Your immune system may be compromised, so avoiding the family gathering is probably a wise plan.
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mp327
If no one has told you how wonderful you are today, please let me be the first! I remembered reading something about nadir, but lost the link. That is such valuable information to have. All I want to do is stay healthy for my family, even if it means avoiding them
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take extra good care
of yourself during your treatments. Please don't be afraid to ask your nurse and doctors for help. I felt the same way about not wanting to bother anyone especially my family. I was so wrong. People love us and want to help. We have to tell them how we are.
I stayed away from people during my treatments. its flu season so all of us need to stay away from crowds.
I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you for being here. I love this site. It's a comfort.
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pacificnwpacificnw said:mp327
If no one has told you how wonderful you are today, please let me be the first! I remembered reading something about nadir, but lost the link. That is such valuable information to have. All I want to do is stay healthy for my family, even if it means avoiding them
You are so very sweet to say that and I thank you for making my day. I know your Thanksgiving will be less than the usual celebration this year, but I hope you will feel loved and blessed on this day. Thank you for your kind words and Happy Thanksgiving.
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Thank you for feedback/suggestions
This is my first posting, and first time I've reached out to others hoping for insight/support. My mother recently completed her 4th week of radiation therapy for a Stage 1 anal carcinoma. The radiation has run concurrent with Mitomycin administrated day one, and then treatment with Xeloda (on weeks days/concurrent with radiation). The first two weeks of her treatment went well, but after four weeks, things are feeling pretty scary for her. She has severe diarrhea, which does not seem to be helped with anything the doctors are prescribing. The most recent prescription was for Opium Tincture, which the doctors promised would help the unrelenting runs to the bathroom, and incontinence, but it has not helped. She is also experiencing the expected symptoms of burning/rawness/pain, and has also been prescribed Diladad to help with the pain. She is scared that she is not going to be able to finish the final two weeks of treatment. As a concerned caretaker, I'm really not sure how to comfort/support her, or if there are things I should be doing that I'm not doing.
If anyone has experienced this acute type of diarrhea during treatment, and can provide any suggestions or guidance, it would be greatly appreciated.
Sending positive thoughts and wishes for strength and healing.
Thank you!
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whit_ganz
I am sorry about your mother's diagnosis and all the issues she is having with diarrhea during treatment. It was the same for me. Nothing really helped. I just had to put up with it. It was very frustrating. Not only that, but it leads to dehydration and excruciating pain because the skin is so irritated. My heart goes out to your mom. The only suggestions I can make are trying the BRAT diet (bananas, (white) rice, applesause, (white) toast), and to avoid anything with fiber. Make sure she is getting enough fluids (water is best) to replace what is lost with the diarrhea. I wish I had some better suggestions. Perhaps someone else will chime in with something else to try. I wish your mother all the very best and hope she can hang in there until she crosses the finish line. Healing takes place fairly quickly once treatment stops.
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whit_ganzwhit_ganz said:Thank you for feedback/suggestions
This is my first posting, and first time I've reached out to others hoping for insight/support. My mother recently completed her 4th week of radiation therapy for a Stage 1 anal carcinoma. The radiation has run concurrent with Mitomycin administrated day one, and then treatment with Xeloda (on weeks days/concurrent with radiation). The first two weeks of her treatment went well, but after four weeks, things are feeling pretty scary for her. She has severe diarrhea, which does not seem to be helped with anything the doctors are prescribing. The most recent prescription was for Opium Tincture, which the doctors promised would help the unrelenting runs to the bathroom, and incontinence, but it has not helped. She is also experiencing the expected symptoms of burning/rawness/pain, and has also been prescribed Diladad to help with the pain. She is scared that she is not going to be able to finish the final two weeks of treatment. As a concerned caretaker, I'm really not sure how to comfort/support her, or if there are things I should be doing that I'm not doing.
If anyone has experienced this acute type of diarrhea during treatment, and can provide any suggestions or guidance, it would be greatly appreciated.
Sending positive thoughts and wishes for strength and healing.
Thank you!
I'm saying prayers for your Mother. You're the best to look after her and be concerned. The BRAT diet is the only thing I can think of that might help. I know I ate a lot of grilled cheese sandwiches and chicken noodle soup. I had bad diaherra and radation is very painful. Continue to tell her dr's what she is experiencing I hope they will find a solution to help her. I also used baby wipes. Another thing that seemed to help was saltine crackers, but that might cause constipation as well. I know it is a trying time, but it will get better. My prayers will continue. Please let us know how your Mother is doing.
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Whit-ganz
I had the same kind of diarrhea and ended up on the tincture of opium too. I was also still taking another prescription med (diphenoxylate/atropine) for diarrhea plus morphine and oxycodone which are supposed to slow the bowels down. This "slowed it" down to every 15 minutes. By then I was hospitalized with sepsis. Like Martha said this is very dehydrating, but I was on iv fluids and so thirsty I was drinking tons of water. My groin was also raw and burned, and the diarrhea of course made it worse. I got a skin care consult from a nurse who specialized in wound care and she gave me a bunch of different products to try. I used a foam called aloe vesta cleansing foam with each bowel movement. Wiped with an egg sized amount of foam on the softest toilet paper I could find. All that said, your mom might need to take a break so she can tolerate the last 2 weeks of treatment, because I didnt get that bad until week 5. The oncologists don't want you to take a break because it lowers the effectiveness of treatment, but you have to balance that out with how she's doing. I'm sorry your mom is having to go through this, it is so miserable.
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yeswhit_ganz said:Thank you for feedback/suggestions
This is my first posting, and first time I've reached out to others hoping for insight/support. My mother recently completed her 4th week of radiation therapy for a Stage 1 anal carcinoma. The radiation has run concurrent with Mitomycin administrated day one, and then treatment with Xeloda (on weeks days/concurrent with radiation). The first two weeks of her treatment went well, but after four weeks, things are feeling pretty scary for her. She has severe diarrhea, which does not seem to be helped with anything the doctors are prescribing. The most recent prescription was for Opium Tincture, which the doctors promised would help the unrelenting runs to the bathroom, and incontinence, but it has not helped. She is also experiencing the expected symptoms of burning/rawness/pain, and has also been prescribed Diladad to help with the pain. She is scared that she is not going to be able to finish the final two weeks of treatment. As a concerned caretaker, I'm really not sure how to comfort/support her, or if there are things I should be doing that I'm not doing.
If anyone has experienced this acute type of diarrhea during treatment, and can provide any suggestions or guidance, it would be greatly appreciated.
Sending positive thoughts and wishes for strength and healing.
Thank you!
i had the extreme diarrhea after tincture of opium...did not work for me.....but one has to just hang in there.....i am 8 years post tx at md anderson....sorry she is going thru this but it is doable.....sephie
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Not my hair!!
Haven't been on for a while, so I thought I'd check in. Asking for personal stories, if you're willing to share. I've been hit pretty hard with "symptoms", so I was hoping for a pass on the hair loss. I have been so careful, but today (almost 2 1/2 weeks in) it started falling out. I have fairly thin hair to start with and this is hitting me hard. I've never been one to wear scarves or hats, and I'm kinda freaking out a little bit. I know this is so vain, but really?!
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Pacificnw
I spent a lot of time worrying about my hair and a lot of time worrying it was vain of me to be concerned about my hair. But it's more than just hair. To me if I kept my hair then i would be in control of who knew I had cancer, not everyone on the street glancing at would know. I think I associate the hair loss with severe illness and death, I know that sounds morbid but when I was younger 40 years ago didn't it seem like people got cancer, lost their hair and then died? When I told my kids about the cancer and asked them if they had any questions the only question my 16 year old son asked was whether I would lose all my hair. I used the chemo cold caps during the infusion of mitomycin C in an effort to save my hair. I lost about a third of my hair anyway, so not sure how much difference it made. Your hair is part of your identity in my opinion, so I have decided it's not shallow or vain to be hit hard by the hair loss. Sorry you're going through this.
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pacificnw
My doctor told me I "probably" wouldn't lose my hair, so I had high hopes that that wouldn't happen. However, when I was midway in my first chemo cycle, I had gone down to my basement to get a little exercise on my treadmill, then do some floor exercises, trying to stay strong during treatment. I did some abdominal crunches with my hands behind my head and when I was done and looked at my hands, they were covered with strands of my hair. I was devastated. The thought of losing all my hair was frightening to me because I also have a shunt under my skin on the right side of the back of my head, causing a bump (I was diagnosed with hydrocephalus in 1993). I thought not only would people know I had cancer and ask questions about that, but they would also ask me what that "bump" on my head was. I wore a baseball cap whenever I went out in public, which didn't hide the fact that I probably had cancer, but it did hide the bump. I lost hair in patches all over my head and my hair loss continued for about 3 months after my treatment ended, I presume until all the chemo drugs had finally been flushed out of my body. I can understand how devastating it is to lose hair and be freaked out by it, as you put it. Our hair is part of our identity and especially when we are going through cancer treatment and not feeling like ourselves, it's just one more thing that reminds us we have cancer. I can understand your heartbreak.
I used to be one of those women who washed their hair every day, but during treatment and when my hair loss began, I washed it only about twice a week. I also used a shampoo that contained Biotin, which is supposed to help. I'm not sure it did, but it might be worth a try for you. Also, not blow drying your hair may help.
I wish you all the very best as you continue with treatment.
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I know we're about in samepacificnw said:Not my hair!!
Haven't been on for a while, so I thought I'd check in. Asking for personal stories, if you're willing to share. I've been hit pretty hard with "symptoms", so I was hoping for a pass on the hair loss. I have been so careful, but today (almost 2 1/2 weeks in) it started falling out. I have fairly thin hair to start with and this is hitting me hard. I've never been one to wear scarves or hats, and I'm kinda freaking out a little bit. I know this is so vain, but really?!
I know we're about in same treatment span, pacificnw. I'm sorry to hear you are starting to lose your hair. I start my second round of chemo in two days On Dec 7). I have not lost any head hair (yet) and my oncologist told me that with only the two rounds of chemo I probably wouldn't. Now I'm worried! Then I just try to put it into perspective and try to remember the reason we're all going through this - to get the rat-bast**rd tumor out. Keep me informed - I care.
Heather
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Itching
I'm 43 and just finished my treatment Nov 15. (Mitomycin x2, Xeloda x 30 doses, radiation x 33) I will add that ITCHING (where you can't scratch) started on week 3 and on week 4 the pain during BM's hit its worse. The advise I got here was spot on. There were times that I couldn't make it 10 foot to the toilet so I bought some of the fancy depends. I'm a private person with regards to the bathroom so this cancer tried to break me down many of times. Stay strong and positive is the best advise I could give for the mental game. I worked full time unitl week 4 then went to half days for a few weeks. I still struggle with extreme shortness of breath with normal daily living but hoping that will change soon.
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Hitting a rough spot
I just wanted to take a minute to say how much I appreciate all the stories, suggestions, and sharing from this group. There is such reassurance in knowing I'm not alone.
I've tried to keep a positive attitude, but looking in the mirror yesterday brought a couple tears to my eyes. I've probably lost 85% of my hair so far. I guess I can be glad it's freezing outside, I can hide under hats.
Then my skin decided to dry up. It seems no matter what creams or lotions I put on, they don't seem to soak in.
I'm feeling a little anxious about chemo round 2 which starts Wednedsay. I didn't do very well with the anti-nausea meds the first time around. I'm thinking about asking for a patch? Any suggestions? Sorry to be such a buzz-kill. I guess I'm in a little bit of a rough spot.
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pacificnw
Good to see an update from you. I'm sorry you have lost so much hair. Unfortunately, this chemo can affect people differently. I'm glad you are coping with it. As for dry skin, you might try Corn Huskers Lotion. I have lots of trouble with dry skin in winter and that usually helps.
I would definitely ask about other meds for nausea, including the patch. If I remember correctly, I didn't have as much nausea the second round, so perhaps you won't either. I hope not anyway. Take care and keep moving forward--you will soon be past this!
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