New study on meat intake and colorectal cancer

I agree with Kim. Due to always having IBS I never ate the way they say not to. I didn't even eat processed foods as a child more than rarely because it was a treat to have a hot dog or weiners and beans or something like that. My mom was a stay at hom mom and everything was made from scratch. As an adult I had the IBS and was unable to eat processed foods or ice cream or rich foods at all because it made it so much worse. And I never ate burned parts of barbequed steaks, I've read that that's carcinogenic. There's really no explanation for me getting it. I think it's just sheer bad luck. 

Jan

I had the cancer because I didn't see my GI when I had to. I've been good to myself with organics. I even avoided to eat out. It is how you listen to your body. I mean, that's how I look at it.

SandiaBuddy said:

Thanks

Thanks, Laz, I appreciate your comment.  I made a separate post on this here: https://csn.cancer.org/node/311453  I think it appropriate that we all exercise a bit of restraint and respect for the opinions of others.

...I started my reply with "In my opinion...".

Im a doctor myself and I will not hide the fact from my patients that for example chewing tobacco will increase the chance of getting oral cancer. That would be disservice to my patients and they need to be informed. 

Laz

It's been well known for 20+ years that excessive animal protein consumption increasesed risk of cancer.

China Study for example suggests 10-15% animal protein in diet show significant reduction to cancer risk.

So no more than 15% of caloric intake should come from animal proteins, and the more processed the meat, the more risk of cancer induciton.

My Oncologist believes that diet has little to do with colon cancer, perhaps a little, but mostly its just a bad mix of things coming together simultaneously to allow cancer to spawn.

Such as exposure to carinogen, surpressed immune system (either from prolonged flue, pneumonia, mono - whatever), heridatary predispositions, diet,  weight, excercise, etc..

I had times (maybe 3) that I went on atkins and ate nearly 80% meat.  That was probably not such a good idea, other than that after hearing about the china study from my Doctor girlfriend at the time.  I drastically reduced animal protein consumption and my overall health improved.  I also enjoyed that steak much more when it was less frequent.

My other factors, weigh, smoking, obesity, sedentary lifestyle, alchol consumption - none of those factors played a role for me.  Very active, good BMI range, don't smoke, don't drink.

I've heard from many a vegan, that have had colorectal cancer.  So diet may be a factor, it's probably quite minimal.

During chemo/radiation treatment it's important to get high levels of protein, and unfortunately that means an increase in meats.

High fiber diets unfortunately are not so kind to those of us who've had LAR procedures.  But I would suggest keeping up with healthy diets as much as possible post treatments.

good luck to all.

I find results of studies confusing.  Whether it be regarding cancer, intake of caffeine, organics, etc.  One study tells us they are bad for us and the next tells us they are good for us.  I know people who seem to be in a constant search for the perfect diet to improve or maintain good health.  First they were on plant based diet, then gluten and dairy free, then eating based on blood type.  Uggh.  My fall back postion continues to be everything in moderation with some exceptions of course such as tobacco. 

While saw palmetto may have helped some, milk proteins may have been the key for some one else, baby asprin some one else...who knows.  Some find comfort in following these recommendations which is absolutely fine.  No judgement here.  I find the more I research I do, the more stressed I become and have to step away and live life and be happy for what is happening today.  I know I cannot control everything and most difficult for me is not having the answers to some of the questions I have regarding my husbands cancer, both cause and future outcome.  We all have to do what makes us feel comfortable, both the patient and the caregiver.

Enjoy the weekend,

Betsy

He tried everything (God Bless him) and went to every clinic around the world.  He actually did the coffee enemas and clinical trials in Germany.  He spent 100,000 and even more on treatment.  If you ever get a chance to look at his posts (if they haven't been deleted) look.  He was an amazing person that was in search of the perfect cure. 

Kim

PamRav said:

The four things.

I went to a GI cancer symposium this summer.  The expert doc there said there are only four known things that help prevent a reoccurrence 

eating tree nuts, exercise, vitaminD, and aspirin.   

Take it for what its worth 

Those patients who consumed two or more servings of nuts per week had a 42% decreased risk for recurrence (hazard ratio [HR], 0.58; 95% CI, 0.37–0.92; P = .03 for trend) and a 57% decreased risk for death (HR, 0.43; 95% CI, 0.25–0.74; P = .01 for trend) compared with patients who abstained from nuts.

http://www.cancernetwork.com/asco/nut-consumption-reduced-risk-colon-cancer-recurrence-death

BTW, I believe that the base study was for tree nuts and stuff like peanuts may not have the beneficial aspects of the other stuff.

Exercise I'm going to do anyways. I'll have to look into the vitamins.

peanuts won't help.   Only tree nuts.  

Before I was diagnosed I was craving walnuts like crazy. I went through bag after bag.  Apparently my body knew something I didn't.