High Dose IV Vitamin C

Tethys41
Tethys41 Member Posts: 1,382 Member

I have been touting this for years, since it served me well when I was in treatment.  Now it's in clinical trials.  Laughing

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-03/cp-hdo032317.php

 

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  • NoTimeForCancer
    NoTimeForCancer Member Posts: 3,506 Member
    edited April 2017 #2
    Miss Tethys, I hope you don't

    Miss Tethys, I hope you don't mind I added this as a link so it is just a click for everyone.  Intertesting and recent

    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-03/cp-hdo032317.php

  • Tethys41
    Tethys41 Member Posts: 1,382 Member
    edited April 2017 #3

    Miss Tethys, I hope you don't

    Miss Tethys, I hope you don't mind I added this as a link so it is just a click for everyone.  Intertesting and recent

    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-03/cp-hdo032317.php

    Link

    I dont' mind at all!  Couldn't figure out why mine didn't post as a link. :) Here's the article too, for those who are suspicious of links.

    PUBLIC RELEASE: 30-MAR-2017

    High doses of vitamin C to improve cancer treatment passes human safety trial

     

    CELL PRESS



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    IMAGE: THIS IMAGE SHOWS DIFFERENTIAL SUSCEPTIBILITY OF NORMAL CELLS (LEFT) AND CANCER CELLS (RIGHT) TO VTAMIN C. view more 

    CREDIT: SCHOENFELD, ET AL.

    Clinical trials found that it is safe to regularly infuse brain and lung cancer patients with 800 -- 1000 times the daily recommended amount of vitamin C as a potential strategy to improve outcomes of standard cancer treatments. In a work presented March 30, 2017 in Cancer Cell, University of Iowa researchers also show pathways by which altered iron metabolism in cancer cells, and not normal cells, lead to increased sensitivity to cancer cell death caused by high dose vitamin C.

    "This paper reveals a metabolic frailty in cancer cells that is based on their own production of oxidizing agents that allows us to utilize existing redox active compounds, like vitamin C, to sensitize cancer cells to radiation and chemotherapy," says co-author Garry Buettner, who was one of the first to propose that cancer cells might have a vulnerability to redox active compounds over 40 years ago. Buettner, along with study senior authors Bryan Allen and Douglas Spitz, are faculty members at the University of Iowa's Department of Radiation Oncology, Free Radical and Radiation Biology Program, in the Holden Comprehensive Cancer Center.

    The 11 evaluable patients enrolled in the brain cancer safety trial received three infusions of vitamin C a week for 2 months followed by two infusions per week for 7 months while receiving standard care radiation and chemotherapy. The goal of each infusion was to raise the concentration of vitamin C in a patient's blood to 20,000 μM, as compared to a blood level of about 70 μM found in most adults. The high dose is necessary because vitamin C has a half-life of about two hours in the circulation of humans. The treatment was generally well tolerated; with modest side effects including frequent trips to the bathroom and dry mouth. Rarely, some patients developed high blood pressure that subsided quickly following infusion.

    Why is this approach safe? Vitamin C, even at high levels, isn't toxic to normal cells. The research group at Iowa found, however, that tumor tissue's abnormally high levels of redox active iron molecules (a by-product of abnormal mitochondrial metabolism) react with vitamin C to form hydrogen peroxide and free radicals derived from hydrogen peroxide. These free radicals are believed to cause DNA damage selectively in cancer cells (versus normal cells) leading to enhanced cancer cell death as well as sensitization to radiation and chemotherapy in cancer cells.

    "This is a significant example of how knowing details of potential mechanisms and the basic science of redox active compounds in cancer versus normal cells can be leveraged clinically in cancer therapy," says co-senior author Douglas Spitz, who focused on the biochemical studies. "Here, we verified convincingly that increased redox active metal ions in cancer cells were responsible for this differential sensitivity of cancer versus normal cells to very high doses of vitamin C."

    The safety study sets the stage for phase II clinical trials looking at whether high dose vitamin C is effective at extending overall lifespan and quality of life for patients undergoing radiation and chemotherapy. The researchers are currently enrolling patients with stage 4 lung cancer and will soon begin enrolling people with glioblastoma multiforme (brain cancer) in these phase II trials. They are hopeful that brain cancer responses to radiation and chemotherapy can be enhanced in these phase II trials. This guarded optimism is based on the phase I trial data showing an increase in overall survival of 4-6 months in 11 glioblastoma multiforme patients (18-22 months) versus the 14-16 months survival typically seen with the standard treatment.

    "The majority of cancer patients we work with are excited to participate in clinical trials that could benefit future patient outcomes down the line," says co-senior author Bryan Allen, who led the clinical side of the study. "Results look promising but we're not going to know if this approach really improves therapy response until we complete these phase II trials."

    The cost per patient above standard insurance billing for the phase II vitamin C glioblastoma multiforme protocol is approximately $8000 spread over 9 months of test infusions. This cost can be less than a single dose of some immunotherapy and/or chemotherapy drugs.

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    This work is supported by the American Society for Radiation Oncology, the Carver Research Program of Excellence in Redox Biology, the US National Institutes of Health, Ms. Marie Foster/matched by IBM, the University of Iowa Holden Comprehensive Cancer Center, and the University of Iowa Medical Scientist Training Program. Co-author Dennis Riley is the Chief Scientific Officer of Galera Therapeutics, Inc., which supplied some materials for use in the basic science studies.

    Cancer Cell, Schoenfeld et al.: "O2* - and H2O2-Mediated Disruption of Fe Metabolism Causes the Differential Susceptibility of NSCLC and GBM Cancer Cells to Pharmacological Ascorbate" http://www.cell.com/cancer-cell/fulltext/S1535-6108(17)30062-4

    Cancer Cell (@Cancer_Cell), published by Cell Press, is a monthly journal that provides a high-profile forum to promote major advances in cancer research and oncology. The journal covers topics related to molecular and cellular mechanisms of cancer, mechanisms for the sensitivity and the resistance to cancer therapies, development of better cancer therapies, and clinical investigations. Visit: http://www.cell.com/cancer-cell. To receive Cell Press media alerts, contact press@cell.com.

  • bettyboop3917
    bettyboop3917 Member Posts: 45
    Vit C

    I had been reading about using vit C one thing people must know is that some types of cancer it feeds. You have to check with your doctor to know if your type of cancer is one. I am happy it's gotten to the point of trials. 

  • Tethys41
    Tethys41 Member Posts: 1,382 Member
    Clear Cell

    I can't speak to Clear Cell, but the more common ovarian cancer is not stimulated by high dose IV vitamin C.  Unfortunately, oncologists, at least the ones I worked with, are notorious for denouncing use of integrative therapies during treatment.  You might have to ask an integrative practitioner to get an accurate response to your question if you want to ask whether or not it would be beneficial to use this therapy.  It's not as if you can run down to your local Urgent Care and request one of these IVs anyway.  Generally speaking, if a practitioner administers them, they probably have a good idea whether or not it is appropriate for your situation. 

  • Janissi1
    Janissi1 Member Posts: 34
    edited April 2017 #6
    Yes!

    My PCP is considering this as well!

  • Tethys41
    Tethys41 Member Posts: 1,382 Member
    edited April 2017 #7
    Yay!!!

    Great to hear, Janissi1.