PET vs. Ct Scan

Hello,

Monday I am having my second scan since I finsihed treatment in Feb.  I am a bit nervous, but that is par for the course.  The first CT scan as NED.  My question is I often hear of people getttin PET scans.  I have never had one, I have only had CT scans and am curious if anyone can tell why doc sometime do CT or PET scans?  I have heard people only getting PET and other like me who only get CT and others who get  both.  Thanks, Tony

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  • wmc
    wmc Member Posts: 1,804
    CT v PET/CT

    Often they can see what they want with a CT scan with or without contrast. The PET/CT   Positron emission tomography (PET) uses small amounts of radioactive materials called radiotracers, a special camera, and a computer to help evaluate your organ and tissue functions. By identifying body changes at the cellular level, PET may detect the early onset of disease before it is evident on other imaging tests.

    One of the main reasons is cost. A CT scan might be $800 where the PET/CT may be 10 times that. Now insurances have agreed to fees which is much less that what they charge. Mine was $12,000 and Insurances agreed to $8,000. Many are less depending on the facility.  I had a PET before my surgery but never had one after. Most that have radiation and Chemo will have one also after treatment so check they killed it all. I was only surgery and there was no doubt they got it all.  Hope this helps.

    Bill

  • swopoe
    swopoe Member Posts: 492
    My husband has never had a

    My husband has never had a PET scan either. Only CT scans and MRI.

  • Ladylacy
    Ladylacy Member Posts: 773 Member
    PET/CT Scans

    My husband had PET/CT every 3-4 months during his battle.  Yes the cost is prohibitive but Medicare always approved them.  They were done at the same time.  First the PET Scan was done where they injected the medication and he had to wait an hour before the PET scan could be done and then the CT with contrast was done.  Even after surgery when the radiation and chemo didn't touch the tumor, he still had a PET/CT scan every 3-4 months until he went declined all further treatment.  Now I understand that Medicare doesn't approve a PET scan but once or twice due to the cost.  My husband's battle started 6 years this month and he lost his battle one year ago tomorrow and he stopped all further treatment because of the spread of the cancer and further surgery was ruled out 2 1/2 years into his battle and he was tired of the radiation (75 rounds all together in basically the same spot) and the chemo.

    Just remember everyone responds differently to treatment and second and sometimes third opinions are the way to go.  You have to have confidence in your doctors.  We had great doctors but our ENT referred us to a head and neck specialist because he said that was what my husband needed (wish that had done that before the first go round of radiation and chemo) and wish we had gotten a second opinion but my husband believed in the doctors and that's what counted.  His cancer started in his laryx and was contained there.  The he was diagnosed with a second primary and that was what wouldn't respond to treatment and spread.  His cancer was squamous.

    Wishing you peace and comfort

  • jtl
    jtl Member Posts: 456
    I had both

    Initially I had a CT scan and it did not light up the cancer in my throat.  Then I had a PET and there it was.  After my treatment I had 4 additional PET scans all NED.  My last one was a couple of years ago.  Medicare will now only pay for 3 diagnostic PET scans.  I thought about just paying for one out of pocket since I can get the Medicare rate of about $1600 but since I was having a CT bladder scan and a CT lung scan I decided to just rely on those.  My intention is to have an annual CT chest scan since my last one showed a small spot which was deemed insignificant but the radiologist recommended a follow-up just to be certain nothing was happening.  I am 5 years DX but I think it pays to at least get an annual lung scan which actually goes up to the jaw bone.  

     

  • Barbaraek
    Barbaraek Member Posts: 626
    In our case

    We had a PET/CT at intial diagnosis  and at 3 months after treatment finished. Since the post treatment results were NED, the follow up now is with CT only for head, neck, and chest. My husband's tumor was nasopharyngeal Stage 4.

    Barbara

  • hlrowe
    hlrowe Member Posts: 80
    Ive had 4 CTs and 3 PET

    PETs are for metabolic activity and CTs look for structure. Biggest problem with a PET is I had to sit in a completely dark room for an hour after being injected with the dye and then it was about 45 - 50 min in the scanner. CTs are 5 minutes. My first PET was at 3 mo out and I lit up like a Christmas tree - all inflamation. Subsequent 2 PETs were NED. My final CT will be in December just to be proactive. I haven't had any pictures in about 2 years.

    You'll be fine! We all get scanxiety no matter how far out.

  • the_wife
    the_wife Member Posts: 184
    edited August 2016 #8
    PET vs. CT scans

    I think with a PET scan a CT is done in conjunction with the PET, so it's my impression that it's a better scan. But don't quote me on that. 

    My hubby had a PET before treatment, and we had to fight with the insurance company to get it approved so it could be done the next day to confirm his diagnosis as recommended by his ENT. They require prior approval, although they don't tell you that upfront. Just wondering if most people have to get prior authorization for their scans, and who is supposed to do that anyway - your provider or you?

     

  • Barbaraek
    Barbaraek Member Posts: 626
    the_wife said:

    PET vs. CT scans

    I think with a PET scan a CT is done in conjunction with the PET, so it's my impression that it's a better scan. But don't quote me on that. 

    My hubby had a PET before treatment, and we had to fight with the insurance company to get it approved so it could be done the next day to confirm his diagnosis as recommended by his ENT. They require prior approval, although they don't tell you that upfront. Just wondering if most people have to get prior authorization for their scans, and who is supposed to do that anyway - your provider or you?

     

    Prior approval

    Yep, we always have to get prior approval. The doctor's office (radiologist) submits it. We get so much paperwork it isn't even funny...separate approvals for head, neck, and chest = 3x the paperwork.

    Barbara

  • the_wife
    the_wife Member Posts: 184
    Barbaraek said:

    Prior approval

    Yep, we always have to get prior approval. The doctor's office (radiologist) submits it. We get so much paperwork it isn't even funny...separate approvals for head, neck, and chest = 3x the paperwork.

    Barbara

    scans

    I guess we are lucky in that respect. We don't get any paperwork at all, but I don't like surprises either. I guess in the future any time the doc says "scan" I'll have to be sure their secretaries do their jobs. Oh well...at least we HAVE insurance! 

    I used to wonder why the standards for follow up are now - no surveillance scans without symptoms. At least that is what our clinic follows. Must be the insurance companies trying to cut costs again. But it sounds like everyone here is still getting scans every 3 months or so. We don't. It's something I try not to think about, but if what they say is true - that most patients find their own recurrences, then I can't worry about it. It's all out of my hands, anyway.

    Gotta just enjoy life! Cool

     

     

  • Barbaraek
    Barbaraek Member Posts: 626
    the_wife said:

    scans

    I guess we are lucky in that respect. We don't get any paperwork at all, but I don't like surprises either. I guess in the future any time the doc says "scan" I'll have to be sure their secretaries do their jobs. Oh well...at least we HAVE insurance! 

    I used to wonder why the standards for follow up are now - no surveillance scans without symptoms. At least that is what our clinic follows. Must be the insurance companies trying to cut costs again. But it sounds like everyone here is still getting scans every 3 months or so. We don't. It's something I try not to think about, but if what they say is true - that most patients find their own recurrences, then I can't worry about it. It's all out of my hands, anyway.

    Gotta just enjoy life! Cool

     

     

    Time between scans will change

    the farther out you are from treatment. We have now "graduated" to every 6 months, and after that it will be yearly.

    Barbara

  • Kenny-
    Kenny- Member Posts: 99 Member
    edited September 2016 #12
    2nd NED

    Had my 2nd NED a few days ago. It was quite a tense experience.

    Similarly, had the same question. My oncologist mentioned the next scan is in 3 months for another PET. Would that be too often? 

     

  • swopoe
    swopoe Member Posts: 492
    My husband had his 6 month

    My husband had his 6 month clean scan in August. His next scan is in November, so 3 more months out. Seems to be the norm, Kenny. Congrats on your NED!