Husband has cancer

Annabelle41415
Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,742 Member
Hello:  I'm usually posting on the colorectal board, hence the amount of my posts.  My husband just found out that he has kidney cancer while we were vacationing.  We were getting ready for a dinner/show for valentines day and he was showering and blood started dripping from penis.  After getting out of shower he urinated nothing but blood.  He wanted to wait and drink water to see if it would clear up - typical man- and then after me insisting we head to emergency we did.  He was diagnosed with kidney cancer and so we headed home from vacation.  Emergency didn't seem that it was urgent although the mass was large at 6 cm x 4 cm, but said we could continue testing there, however his insurance wouldn't cover out of state portion.

 

 

Just went to doctor yesterday and he was positive saying he still has to go through a CT scan "with contrast" to determine if there was spreading, but initial CT scan while out of town emergency showed no signs of spread.  They did not do a chest scan though. 

 

 

Doctor said that he probably had this 4-5 years and it was good that he started bleeding because most kidney cancer doesn't show any signs.  My husband had no pain.

 

 

Doctor wants to remove kidney and just have follow up with no chemo.  Does this seem like a regular path to go?  I'm not sure as I'm a cancer survivor that has gone through chemo/rad/chemo/surgery and more surgery. 

 

 

Thank you for reading my story and looking for your input.

 

 

Kim

 

Comments

  • icemantoo
    icemantoo Member Posts: 3,361 Member
    Welcome to the club

    Kim,

    It sure scared the hell out of me when I peed red in May, 2002. I accused my wife of pouring candy and kool aid down the toilet until I saw for myself. Yes the Kidney does have to come out. My coming out day was on August 1, 2002 (when I was a young 59). Lucky for your sharp eyes in that Valantine day shower.

    In all seriousness he should be fine after the surgery. He will have regular scans for at least 5 years.  There is no way to sugar coat the surgery or recovery. Sorry but we welcome newcomers with major abdominal surgery rather than the different welcomings offered by the mainstream cancers.

    As far as colon cancer my mother also had it in her early 50's. She only had the initial surgery and died last year at 93 years young.

     

     

    Icemantoo

  • sblairc
    sblairc Member Posts: 585 Member
    Welcome to our board.

    Hello and welcome. I post here on behalf of my husband as well (Stage 3 survivor, full kidney and adrenal gland removal) 17 months ago. He's 48 years old. Very similar story to your husband except my husband never left the hospital until 10 days or so later after his surgery.

    Yes, your doc is correct. There is currently not a follow up treatment for kidney cancer that has not spread. If there is visible presence of metastatic disease revealed through post operative/pre-operative tests (Stage 4) there will be treatments available.  If the kidney is removed and nothing else is found, you move on to "survaillence." There is currently no treatment to eradicate the presence of cancer that cannot be detected by a test. There isn't even a test to see if it is there. Frustrating. 

    This can be a tough thing to understand and deal with. Initially when I heard "no chemo, no radiation" I was thrilled. I thought that meant it was less serious and no big deal. Well, not needing it is different than the fact that kidney cancer doesn't have a therapy to eliminate the potential invisible cells lurking elsewhere. 

    But as you will find as you read here, we go on. There are new treatments in immunotherapy that are huge game changers for us here!! Keep us posted. And, again, welcome. 

  • Allochka
    Allochka Member Posts: 1,072 Member
    sblairc said:

    Welcome to our board.

    Hello and welcome. I post here on behalf of my husband as well (Stage 3 survivor, full kidney and adrenal gland removal) 17 months ago. He's 48 years old. Very similar story to your husband except my husband never left the hospital until 10 days or so later after his surgery.

    Yes, your doc is correct. There is currently not a follow up treatment for kidney cancer that has not spread. If there is visible presence of metastatic disease revealed through post operative/pre-operative tests (Stage 4) there will be treatments available.  If the kidney is removed and nothing else is found, you move on to "survaillence." There is currently no treatment to eradicate the presence of cancer that cannot be detected by a test. There isn't even a test to see if it is there. Frustrating. 

    This can be a tough thing to understand and deal with. Initially when I heard "no chemo, no radiation" I was thrilled. I thought that meant it was less serious and no big deal. Well, not needing it is different than the fact that kidney cancer doesn't have a therapy to eliminate the potential invisible cells lurking elsewhere. 

    But as you will find as you read here, we go on. There are new treatments in immunotherapy that are huge game changers for us here!! Keep us posted. And, again, welcome. 

    Sorry to hear about your

    Sorry to hear about your husband. My fiance had kidney cancer too. As Iceman said, this is a proper course of action - surgery and then surveiallance. Good news that the tumor sounds like Stage 1 and hasn't spread. Surgery should be the cure.

    good luck and keep us posted!

  • Jmat23
    Jmat23 Member Posts: 23
    Chest scan

    I would've thought a chest CT/x ray would have been performed as part of the pre-operation cancer staging. My tumour was 7.5cm as its greatest extent and the doctor ordered a chest scan to rule out mets (spread).  At the time he was very confident there'd be no spread but thought it prudent to make sure.

  • APny
    APny Member Posts: 1,995 Member
    Jmat23 said:

    Chest scan

    I would've thought a chest CT/x ray would have been performed as part of the pre-operation cancer staging. My tumour was 7.5cm as its greatest extent and the doctor ordered a chest scan to rule out mets (spread).  At the time he was very confident there'd be no spread but thought it prudent to make sure.

    I'm very sorry to hear about

    I'm very sorry to hear about your husband. Like him and many others here, my first sign was peeing pure blood. Definitely see a specialist who focuses on kidney cancer and yes, he should have a chest x-ray and CT scan with and without contrast. Even though it's 6 cm they may be able to do a partial nephrectomy. That's why it's important to see someone who specializes in this. Wishing you both the best.

  • Jojo61
    Jojo61 Member Posts: 1,309 Member
    APny said:

    I'm very sorry to hear about

    I'm very sorry to hear about your husband. Like him and many others here, my first sign was peeing pure blood. Definitely see a specialist who focuses on kidney cancer and yes, he should have a chest x-ray and CT scan with and without contrast. Even though it's 6 cm they may be able to do a partial nephrectomy. That's why it's important to see someone who specializes in this. Wishing you both the best.

    Hello and welcome. Not nice

    Hello and welcome. Not nice to have to join TWO cancer boards.

    Make sure you see a Kidney Cancer oncologist. As you are learning already, kidney cancer is a different type of cancer compared to others.

    Please keep posting as needed, and we hope to help you along the way.

    Hugs,

    Jojo

  • foroughsh
    foroughsh Member Posts: 779 Member
    Wellcome & Sorry you had to

    Wellcome & Sorry you had to join us, as others said, RCC is resistant to chemo, but in some cases cyberknife & radiotherapy can help. The main and usually only needed treatment is nephrectomy and if it spreads then target therapy is the main choice.
     In my case the I had a chest X-ray & abdomen/pelvis CT with/without contrast before the surgery.
    You have to wait for the pathology report  to know all detail.
     wishing him a successful surgery and speedy recovery and best possible pathology report
    Stay strong
    Forough

  • BellaBinksMom
    BellaBinksMom Member Posts: 78
    Hello Annabelle

    Sounds like a good prognosis for your husband.  Don't beat him up too much about wanting to wait - I did the same when I started urinating blood.  My husband wanted me to go to emergency immediately and I kept telling him, no, it is just a UTI, I will call the doctor on Monday.  We don't like to admit that what is happening is out of the ordinary.  Sending good vibes and prayers up for your husband.

  • db8ne1
    db8ne1 Member Posts: 142 Member
    I recognize you from the colon board

    Hi, Kim.

    I recognize you from the colon board.  I don't post often - but stop by every once in a while to read and send prayers and good vibes to those in need.

    I had both colorectal cancer (surgery April 2013) and RCC (partial nephrectomy July 2014).  The only treatment for RCC is surgery - unless they find mets.  The prognosis is very good if caught early - and it sounds like that may be the case for your husband.

    Best wishes to you both.  Let me know if you have any more questions.

    Jenni

  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,742 Member
    Thank you Everyone

    You all are so wonderful in your posts and responses to me and my husband's diagnosis.  You have given me much knowledge in the short time that I'm trying to deal with all of this.  Your experience and struggles along with treatment is what I'm searching for.  As some of you mentioned, this is nothing like what I've dealt with my cancer as mine was treated totally differently.  His urologist is also an oncologist so he is highly recommended and we felt very comfortable in his plan going forward.  Tomorrow he goes in for his CT scan with contrast and next week, chest X-ray.  I'm surprised they just didn't do a complete chest/ab/pelvis CT scan like with colorectal patients.  Could be that insurance companies are trying to get away with paying for all that anymore, but it seems to make more sense to get a "great" reading instead of a "good" reading.  Just wanted to let you all know that you all are in my prayers as my prayers include all that are on these boards.  His surgery date is March 26, and it seems ironic but that is exactly that same date that my rectal cancer surgery was 6 years ago.  It seems we are somehow connected every which way you can be - but what a bad thing to happen to both of us on the same day.  Our life is good though and we are positive moving forward and you have helped also.  Thank you all again.  I'll keep you posted.

    Kim

  • foroughsh
    foroughsh Member Posts: 779 Member

    Thank you Everyone

    You all are so wonderful in your posts and responses to me and my husband's diagnosis.  You have given me much knowledge in the short time that I'm trying to deal with all of this.  Your experience and struggles along with treatment is what I'm searching for.  As some of you mentioned, this is nothing like what I've dealt with my cancer as mine was treated totally differently.  His urologist is also an oncologist so he is highly recommended and we felt very comfortable in his plan going forward.  Tomorrow he goes in for his CT scan with contrast and next week, chest X-ray.  I'm surprised they just didn't do a complete chest/ab/pelvis CT scan like with colorectal patients.  Could be that insurance companies are trying to get away with paying for all that anymore, but it seems to make more sense to get a "great" reading instead of a "good" reading.  Just wanted to let you all know that you all are in my prayers as my prayers include all that are on these boards.  His surgery date is March 26, and it seems ironic but that is exactly that same date that my rectal cancer surgery was 6 years ago.  It seems we are somehow connected every which way you can be - but what a bad thing to happen to both of us on the same day.  Our life is good though and we are positive moving forward and you have helped also.  Thank you all again.  I'll keep you posted.

    Kim

    Kim, I was 36 at the time of

    Kim, I was 36 at the time of diagnosis, very terrified, hopeless,unsure and frustrated. Now six months post surgery, i remember my surgery date as the best day in my life. It was the day I got hopefully free of cancer and was given another chance to live. What could I ask more? You both have the same exact day which i believe has a meaning, he will survive just like you did. Sending you prayers.Forough

  • donna_lee
    donna_lee Member Posts: 1,045 Member
    foroughsh said:

    Kim, I was 36 at the time of

    Kim, I was 36 at the time of diagnosis, very terrified, hopeless,unsure and frustrated. Now six months post surgery, i remember my surgery date as the best day in my life. It was the day I got hopefully free of cancer and was given another chance to live. What could I ask more? You both have the same exact day which i believe has a meaning, he will survive just like you did. Sending you prayers.Forough

    Kidney cancer is a different kind of animal

    First-sorry you are here.  Second-welcome aboard. and

    Yes, surgery and no "chemo" is standard.  Once your hubby has had a full CT w/wo contrast, and ruled out mets to other organs or the bones, a partial or full nephrectomy is standard.  Oncologists will not enroll anyone in any kind of trial drug when there is no active site that can be monitored.  And they have not found any drug that is just given to a patient to keep kidney cancer from returning or showing up later.

    There are so many variants of kidney cancer, that cannot be determined until the path report/Staging is completed.  Once you have those results, you will be able to do more research, ask questions, talk to the oncologist and proceed from there.

    I'm at almost 9 years beyond surgery, but who's counting?  Me!

    Donna

  • Jan4you
    Jan4you Member Posts: 1,330 Member
    donna_lee said:

    Kidney cancer is a different kind of animal

    First-sorry you are here.  Second-welcome aboard. and

    Yes, surgery and no "chemo" is standard.  Once your hubby has had a full CT w/wo contrast, and ruled out mets to other organs or the bones, a partial or full nephrectomy is standard.  Oncologists will not enroll anyone in any kind of trial drug when there is no active site that can be monitored.  And they have not found any drug that is just given to a patient to keep kidney cancer from returning or showing up later.

    There are so many variants of kidney cancer, that cannot be determined until the path report/Staging is completed.  Once you have those results, you will be able to do more research, ask questions, talk to the oncologist and proceed from there.

    I'm at almost 9 years beyond surgery, but who's counting?  Me!

    Donna

    Kim, first of all, thank for

    Kim, first of all, thank for being such a wonderful person and wife to find us and tell us your husband's experience.

    I am sorry for what you both are going through. Cancer, what a thing to have in common! Hope this brings you two even closer.

    Please keep us posted as to how he is doing. I will pray for a successful surgery March 26th.

    Give your hubby a hug from me and tell him I am glad you thought to get on the kidney cancer section.

    Sending him healing light and hope of a great recovery!

    Hugs, Jan

  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,742 Member
    Thank you Again

    Your responses are so wonderful.  I'm truly thankful that all of you have been so supportive to me on this board.  May you all be Blessed with God's grace and you are in my continued prayers.  You are a great bunch of people.  Much like my original site, Colorectal, you seem to be the same tight family that we are too.

    Hugs!  Kim