To keep ovaries or not - new endo cancer, grade 1
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Thanks Ro! Right back at ya!Ro10 said:Blues mama
Welcome to the site and sorry you have to be here. You have some difficult decisions to make before your surgery and then after surgery. I had robotic surgery and recovery was very quick. I was in the hospital only overnight. My staging came back UPSC stage 3-C, high grade.
The fear of the unknown is great. I had never had surgery before, so I did not know what to expect. I had minimal pain. I started chemo 3 weeks after surgery. It was very doable, too. The fear of the unknown was there, too. I had the sandwich treatment of chemo, radiation, chemo. All of it was much better than anticipated.
Wishing you luck in making your decisions. In peace and caring.
Thanks Ro! Right back at ya!
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Bluesmama, I found out I hadbluesmama said:I got dates
The doctor called back and the dates offered are a lot sooner than my first oncologist's. By Sept. 1 I will have given birth to my uterus and that's the only thing I'm ever giving birth to. I'm trying to keep my sense of humor about this. I've never wanted to bear children so I'm not particularly upset about the up-coming loss. A uterus birthday party maybe? I don't mean to offend anyone who has had to make the tough decision while wanting to have children. They asked me repeatedly whether I wanted to try non-surgical methods of treatment first in case I want to preserve my fertility or harvest eggs but I've been emphatic about surgery. I've had such a horrible relationship with this broken uterus the last 5 years that I'm looking forward to not buying pads in bulk, doubling up with tampons, the anemia, and worrying about clots falling out in public.
I still have to figure out the ovaries situation but the ball has started rolling. Now to figure out when to tell my parents. I haven't told them yet because they are going through some very serious health issues themselves and I worry the stress will send them over the edge. My siblings know and have been very supportive. Most of my friends have been supportive too. Cancer really does weed out who your friends really are when you need it the most and sometimes, the support doesn't come from those who are closest to you. The radio silence from some was very disappointing but I'm not going to get upset over that loss.
Bluesmama, I found out I had cancer 10 days after I buried my father, so telling your parents, my mom in this case, was one of the hardest things I ever did. Like you, my sisters knew, and since none of us live in the same city as my mother, one of my sisters drove in for the weekend so I could tell her. I wanted her to know before I had surgery and MOST IMPORTANTLY assure her I would be alright.
I cannot for the life of me begin to know what my mother was thinking when I told her and the look on her face will be with me for the rest of my life. I would recommend that you have your siblings around for support.
Cancer weeds out true friends quickly, but that makes easy to know who you can call on when it gets tough.
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I'm so sorry you had to go through that.NoTimeForCancer said:Bluesmama, I found out I had
Bluesmama, I found out I had cancer 10 days after I buried my father, so telling your parents, my mom in this case, was one of the hardest things I ever did. Like you, my sisters knew, and since none of us live in the same city as my mother, one of my sisters drove in for the weekend so I could tell her. I wanted her to know before I had surgery and MOST IMPORTANTLY assure her I would be alright.
I cannot for the life of me begin to know what my mother was thinking when I told her and the look on her face will be with me for the rest of my life. I would recommend that you have your siblings around for support.
Cancer weeds out true friends quickly, but that makes easy to know who you can call on when it gets tough.
My siblings think it would be best if my parents were home. At least one of my siblings wants to make sure they are physically there with my parents. I think this is best. Since my surgery is in less than 3 weeks, this is going to be a matter of good timing. I want to make sure they're both emotionally and physically in a better place first. The last couple of weeks has been rough on them.
Not to change the topic but I've been most worried about how frequently the initial biopsy grade changes from the final grade? I doubt staging can be accurately discerned from a tiny biopsy. I've seen posts where someone was initially graded as a 1 but then graded as a 2 or even 3. My ultrasounds indicate a small mass and a thickened and enlarged uterus but did the actual surgical staging find more than that in the end for you folks? Like spread?
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My biopsy came back as UPSCbluesmama said:I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
My siblings think it would be best if my parents were home. At least one of my siblings wants to make sure they are physically there with my parents. I think this is best. Since my surgery is in less than 3 weeks, this is going to be a matter of good timing. I want to make sure they're both emotionally and physically in a better place first. The last couple of weeks has been rough on them.
Not to change the topic but I've been most worried about how frequently the initial biopsy grade changes from the final grade? I doubt staging can be accurately discerned from a tiny biopsy. I've seen posts where someone was initially graded as a 1 but then graded as a 2 or even 3. My ultrasounds indicate a small mass and a thickened and enlarged uterus but did the actual surgical staging find more than that in the end for you folks? Like spread?
My biopsy came back as UPSC so my doctor knew up front that we were dealing with a high grade and wasprepared for that. I have heard of a number of cases though where it was initially a grade 1 at biopsy but post-surgery pathology showed something different. I feel very fortunate that we knew upfront as I've heard of some having to undergo a second staging surgery due higher grade pathology results.
Also, I was automatically referred to the director of the Gynecology Oncology department because of my grade. But, as I am sure others here will also advise, please make sure you have a Gynecology Oncologist do your surgery no matter what the initial grade is. My results came back with microscopic cells in both ovaries and the pelvic wash which is undetectable on any scans or ultrasounds.
Debi
UPSC 3A
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Thanks DebiR for the informationDebiR said:My biopsy came back as UPSC
My biopsy came back as UPSC so my doctor knew up front that we were dealing with a high grade and wasprepared for that. I have heard of a number of cases though where it was initially a grade 1 at biopsy but post-surgery pathology showed something different. I feel very fortunate that we knew upfront as I've heard of some having to undergo a second staging surgery due higher grade pathology results.
Also, I was automatically referred to the director of the Gynecology Oncology department because of my grade. But, as I am sure others here will also advise, please make sure you have a Gynecology Oncologist do your surgery no matter what the initial grade is. My results came back with microscopic cells in both ovaries and the pelvic wash which is undetectable on any scans or ultrasounds.
Debi
UPSC 3A
I'm glad you knew ahead of time. I'm lucky to have several great cancer centers with reputable gyno oncologists and my health insurance covers all of them.
I chose my gyno oncologist based upon his reputation and years of experience over the others but I have no doubts the other surgeons were equally skilled. The tie breaker was really over minor details of the institution where they edged out the competition. I figured, since I've been on the wrong side of the statistics all this time, why not do what I can to pad myself with a little bit of an edge.
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A quick updatebluesmama said:Thanks DebiR for the information
I'm glad you knew ahead of time. I'm lucky to have several great cancer centers with reputable gyno oncologists and my health insurance covers all of them.
I chose my gyno oncologist based upon his reputation and years of experience over the others but I have no doubts the other surgeons were equally skilled. The tie breaker was really over minor details of the institution where they edged out the competition. I figured, since I've been on the wrong side of the statistics all this time, why not do what I can to pad myself with a little bit of an edge.
I just went in for my pre-surgical consult and testing. The good news is I've tested negative for Lynch syndrome. So that's one less thing I have to worry about. Leaving ovaries is still on the table as an option although the doctor said his official recommendation would be to remove ovaries with concerns with quality of life issues since I'm so young. He's left ovaries in several patients falling under my potential profile (young, grade 1, early stage) and they've survived past the 5 year mark as studies have shown. I say potential because obviously final pathology can't be determined until after surgery. I'm strongly leaning towards leaving one ovary behind and leaving it up to him to decide which one to leave. If the final pathology results show spread then we'd go back and take the remaining ovary out. Hopefully, no radiation/chemo will be needed, otherwise, this entire exercise is somewhat futile. My surgery is coming up in two days (robotics), so I'm hoping for good results. The waiting continues and this is the worst part about cancer. Wishing all you ladies remissions and cures.
In the meantime, I plan to recover from surgery as quickly as possible, quit smoking, lose the remaining 30 pounds I've been struggling with and get those statistics to work with me. My worst fear was surgical menopause and my ability to cope with that and getting my health back in step. I'm hoping leaving the ovary will buy me some time to reduce the overall risks for the long term. Of course all of this could be derailed with a worse staging result but i'm hoping for the best.
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Bluesmamabluesmama said:A quick update
I just went in for my pre-surgical consult and testing. The good news is I've tested negative for Lynch syndrome. So that's one less thing I have to worry about. Leaving ovaries is still on the table as an option although the doctor said his official recommendation would be to remove ovaries with concerns with quality of life issues since I'm so young. He's left ovaries in several patients falling under my potential profile (young, grade 1, early stage) and they've survived past the 5 year mark as studies have shown. I say potential because obviously final pathology can't be determined until after surgery. I'm strongly leaning towards leaving one ovary behind and leaving it up to him to decide which one to leave. If the final pathology results show spread then we'd go back and take the remaining ovary out. Hopefully, no radiation/chemo will be needed, otherwise, this entire exercise is somewhat futile. My surgery is coming up in two days (robotics), so I'm hoping for good results. The waiting continues and this is the worst part about cancer. Wishing all you ladies remissions and cures.
In the meantime, I plan to recover from surgery as quickly as possible, quit smoking, lose the remaining 30 pounds I've been struggling with and get those statistics to work with me. My worst fear was surgical menopause and my ability to cope with that and getting my health back in step. I'm hoping leaving the ovary will buy me some time to reduce the overall risks for the long term. Of course all of this could be derailed with a worse staging result but i'm hoping for the best.
I'll be hoping for the best for you too. Get back to us when you c an.
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I'm backConnieSW said:Bluesmama
I'll be hoping for the best for you too. Get back to us when you c an.
Surgery was scheduled very early this past Friday although it didn't actually happen until around 9AM. Two hours later, I was done. Stayed overnight at the hospital and was discharged after breakfast.
It's only been 4 days and I've already stopped taking Advil as of this morning. I stopped taking the Vicodin by Sunday morning as I was getting nervous about not having a bowel movement and it made me feel unwell. But it seems my plumbing is just fine. I had body aches yesterday similar to the flu which made me nervous and a slight fever but it's gone today.
I cannot believe I just had major surgery. With many friends and family rooting for me over the last couple of days, I'm finally back in my own home and taking care of myself.
I've been putting pieces of information together since surgery. The resident surgeon visited me before I was discharged and mentioned a cervical polyp that was probably the cause of the heavy bleeding, clots, and distended uterus. It seemed "smooth" though when they checked it so hopefully it's nothing to worry about. The surgeon briefly mentioned fibroids when he met with my family so I'm guessing they also found fibroids which caused the enlarged uterus. No word on the tumor yet and the official staging/grading is still pending. And finally, the left ovary was kept. They decided to take out the right ovary because it had just burst from the previous menstrual cycle and the corpus luteum was present.
It wasn't clear to me how much I was impacted by the symptoms before surgery until this morning. No bladder pressure. No nagging pevlic pain. No constant bleeding. No bleeding at all (yet). I did hear around the 10 day mark, I may experience some spotting. I still have gas issues from the robotics surgery and some incision pain. Peeing is a new experience that I'm re-learning to a certain extent. I also woke up with an abrasion by my left eye right after sugery which hurts more than my actual surgical incisions. I'm guessing they had taped something there and ripped it off too quickly and took some skin with it.
Anyway, just wanted to check in with you all. Hope you had a good weekend.
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Hi Blues:bluesmama said:I'm back
Surgery was scheduled very early this past Friday although it didn't actually happen until around 9AM. Two hours later, I was done. Stayed overnight at the hospital and was discharged after breakfast.
It's only been 4 days and I've already stopped taking Advil as of this morning. I stopped taking the Vicodin by Sunday morning as I was getting nervous about not having a bowel movement and it made me feel unwell. But it seems my plumbing is just fine. I had body aches yesterday similar to the flu which made me nervous and a slight fever but it's gone today.
I cannot believe I just had major surgery. With many friends and family rooting for me over the last couple of days, I'm finally back in my own home and taking care of myself.
I've been putting pieces of information together since surgery. The resident surgeon visited me before I was discharged and mentioned a cervical polyp that was probably the cause of the heavy bleeding, clots, and distended uterus. It seemed "smooth" though when they checked it so hopefully it's nothing to worry about. The surgeon briefly mentioned fibroids when he met with my family so I'm guessing they also found fibroids which caused the enlarged uterus. No word on the tumor yet and the official staging/grading is still pending. And finally, the left ovary was kept. They decided to take out the right ovary because it had just burst from the previous menstrual cycle and the corpus luteum was present.
It wasn't clear to me how much I was impacted by the symptoms before surgery until this morning. No bladder pressure. No nagging pevlic pain. No constant bleeding. No bleeding at all (yet). I did hear around the 10 day mark, I may experience some spotting. I still have gas issues from the robotics surgery and some incision pain. Peeing is a new experience that I'm re-learning to a certain extent. I also woke up with an abrasion by my left eye right after sugery which hurts more than my actual surgical incisions. I'm guessing they had taped something there and ripped it off too quickly and took some skin with it.
Anyway, just wanted to check in with you all. Hope you had a good weekend.
It seems that youHi Blues:
It seems that you went through surgery pretty well. It is amazing how it feels to be without pain, isn't it? My only advice is to take it easy. Do not lift anything heavy for at least 6 weeks. I ended up with a huge hernia after my surgery. I wish you well with the results. Thanks for posting.
Kathy
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Thanks Kaleena!Kaleena said:Hi Blues:
It seems that youHi Blues:
It seems that you went through surgery pretty well. It is amazing how it feels to be without pain, isn't it? My only advice is to take it easy. Do not lift anything heavy for at least 6 weeks. I ended up with a huge hernia after my surgery. I wish you well with the results. Thanks for posting.
Kathy
I'm going to try to remember I'm still healing on the inside. I did move my car today. I live in NYC and we have crazy alternate street parking rules. I don't think I strained anything but that's as far as I went as far as exertion goes.
I'm trying to keep things in perspective. It's not over yet. The surgery and recovery is the easiest part per the doctor. It's the stuff that I need to deal with potentially after that is going to be tough. i have an appointment with a nutritionist later this month. I'm going to do anything and everything I can to make the statistics work with me. I quit smoking on Friday. Cold turkey. With all the aches and pains from surgery, I never noticed the withdrawal symptoms. Here's to 5 days strong without a cigarette.
Keep in touch!
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Bluesbluesmama said:Thanks Kaleena!
I'm going to try to remember I'm still healing on the inside. I did move my car today. I live in NYC and we have crazy alternate street parking rules. I don't think I strained anything but that's as far as I went as far as exertion goes.
I'm trying to keep things in perspective. It's not over yet. The surgery and recovery is the easiest part per the doctor. It's the stuff that I need to deal with potentially after that is going to be tough. i have an appointment with a nutritionist later this month. I'm going to do anything and everything I can to make the statistics work with me. I quit smoking on Friday. Cold turkey. With all the aches and pains from surgery, I never noticed the withdrawal symptoms. Here's to 5 days strong without a cigarette.
Keep in touch!
So glad to hear the surgery went well. I second what Kathy said. the outside of you may look pretty normal but the inside is a different story. Congratulations on the smoking. Pat tourself on the back for me.
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This sounds great! So gladbluesmama said:I'm back
Surgery was scheduled very early this past Friday although it didn't actually happen until around 9AM. Two hours later, I was done. Stayed overnight at the hospital and was discharged after breakfast.
It's only been 4 days and I've already stopped taking Advil as of this morning. I stopped taking the Vicodin by Sunday morning as I was getting nervous about not having a bowel movement and it made me feel unwell. But it seems my plumbing is just fine. I had body aches yesterday similar to the flu which made me nervous and a slight fever but it's gone today.
I cannot believe I just had major surgery. With many friends and family rooting for me over the last couple of days, I'm finally back in my own home and taking care of myself.
I've been putting pieces of information together since surgery. The resident surgeon visited me before I was discharged and mentioned a cervical polyp that was probably the cause of the heavy bleeding, clots, and distended uterus. It seemed "smooth" though when they checked it so hopefully it's nothing to worry about. The surgeon briefly mentioned fibroids when he met with my family so I'm guessing they also found fibroids which caused the enlarged uterus. No word on the tumor yet and the official staging/grading is still pending. And finally, the left ovary was kept. They decided to take out the right ovary because it had just burst from the previous menstrual cycle and the corpus luteum was present.
It wasn't clear to me how much I was impacted by the symptoms before surgery until this morning. No bladder pressure. No nagging pevlic pain. No constant bleeding. No bleeding at all (yet). I did hear around the 10 day mark, I may experience some spotting. I still have gas issues from the robotics surgery and some incision pain. Peeing is a new experience that I'm re-learning to a certain extent. I also woke up with an abrasion by my left eye right after sugery which hurts more than my actual surgical incisions. I'm guessing they had taped something there and ripped it off too quickly and took some skin with it.
Anyway, just wanted to check in with you all. Hope you had a good weekend.
This sounds great! So glad it went smoothly, but as the other ladies said, take it easy. Doing too much did cause me some bleeding and then I got mad at myself for overdoing it. Please let us know what the next steps are when you find out.
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Y'all are right.NoTimeForCancer said:This sounds great! So glad
This sounds great! So glad it went smoothly, but as the other ladies said, take it easy. Doing too much did cause me some bleeding and then I got mad at myself for overdoing it. Please let us know what the next steps are when you find out.
Around 7PM last night, my entire body was sore. It's the kind of body sore you get when you have the flu. I was miserable. I'm staying in bed today lest I bust something.
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Hi, blues!bluesmama said:Y'all are right.
Around 7PM last night, my entire body was sore. It's the kind of body sore you get when you have the flu. I was miserable. I'm staying in bed today lest I bust something.
I've read your posts here and my heart goes out to you that you've had to deal with all this cancer business, especially at such a young age. On the other hand, being young will help you recover from your surgery quickly. Like you, I was surprised by how well I felt following the minimally invasive surgery. I didn't have to think about whether or not I should keep my ovaries, as I have been post menapausal for 12 years (age 60 at diagnosis). I am hoping that your pathology report will show that you have a low stage and low grade cancer. Before my surgery, I was told that my biopsy indicated that I had a Grade 2 cancer. I ended up being diagnosed with a Grade 3 cancer, UPSC, based on the pathology report. It is my understanding that if a woman's cancer is made up of 10% UPSC, than she is diagnosed with UPSC. I guess I had both UPSC and another serous type uterine cancer that was a Grade 2.
I am wishing you the very best outcome!
Cathy
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Doctor just called. Stage 1A,Abbycat2 said:Hi, blues!
I've read your posts here and my heart goes out to you that you've had to deal with all this cancer business, especially at such a young age. On the other hand, being young will help you recover from your surgery quickly. Like you, I was surprised by how well I felt following the minimally invasive surgery. I didn't have to think about whether or not I should keep my ovaries, as I have been post menapausal for 12 years (age 60 at diagnosis). I am hoping that your pathology report will show that you have a low stage and low grade cancer. Before my surgery, I was told that my biopsy indicated that I had a Grade 2 cancer. I ended up being diagnosed with a Grade 3 cancer, UPSC, based on the pathology report. It is my understanding that if a woman's cancer is made up of 10% UPSC, than she is diagnosed with UPSC. I guess I had both UPSC and another serous type uterine cancer that was a Grade 2.
I am wishing you the very best outcome!
Cathy
Doctor just called. Stage 1A, Grade 1. Negative lymph nodes. Negative Lynch. He said there's a small chance any last minute test could come back disputing this report but unlikely. No further treatment. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I don't think it's hit me yet but based on my family/friends reaction to the news, I should be thrilled. Of course, my mind is thinking, there are still milestones I need to hit. 1. 3. 5. 10 years. Etc. But at least for the next couple of months, I don't have to fear making plans with people. That was the most depressing thing about this as of late. Every time someone wanted to make a future plan with me I couldn't say yes for sure.
Anyway, thank you all for all your support. I'm rooting for all of you and don't plan on disappearing from the forums. You all were so important in helping me keep a little sane throughout this process so far.
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Great News, Blues!bluesmama said:Doctor just called. Stage 1A,
Doctor just called. Stage 1A, Grade 1. Negative lymph nodes. Negative Lynch. He said there's a small chance any last minute test could come back disputing this report but unlikely. No further treatment. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I don't think it's hit me yet but based on my family/friends reaction to the news, I should be thrilled. Of course, my mind is thinking, there are still milestones I need to hit. 1. 3. 5. 10 years. Etc. But at least for the next couple of months, I don't have to fear making plans with people. That was the most depressing thing about this as of late. Every time someone wanted to make a future plan with me I couldn't say yes for sure.
Anyway, thank you all for all your support. I'm rooting for all of you and don't plan on disappearing from the forums. You all were so important in helping me keep a little sane throughout this process so far.
Bluesmama:
Great news. I know what you mean about how you feel and how to process it all in. It has been a big rollercoaster for you. Now is the time to BREATHE!
So go out and enjoy the stuff you have put off. My best to you.
Kathy
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Thanks Kaleena!Kaleena said:Great News, Blues!
Bluesmama:
Great news. I know what you mean about how you feel and how to process it all in. It has been a big rollercoaster for you. Now is the time to BREATHE!
So go out and enjoy the stuff you have put off. My best to you.
Kathy
Thanks Kaleena!
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Bluesbluesmama said:Doctor just called. Stage 1A,
Doctor just called. Stage 1A, Grade 1. Negative lymph nodes. Negative Lynch. He said there's a small chance any last minute test could come back disputing this report but unlikely. No further treatment. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I don't think it's hit me yet but based on my family/friends reaction to the news, I should be thrilled. Of course, my mind is thinking, there are still milestones I need to hit. 1. 3. 5. 10 years. Etc. But at least for the next couple of months, I don't have to fear making plans with people. That was the most depressing thing about this as of late. Every time someone wanted to make a future plan with me I couldn't say yes for sure.
Anyway, thank you all for all your support. I'm rooting for all of you and don't plan on disappearing from the forums. You all were so important in helping me keep a little sane throughout this process so far.
What great news. So happy you will not need any treatment. Now is the time to enjoy each day and make those future plans. Good luck to you.
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Great news!!!bluesmama said:Doctor just called. Stage 1A,
Doctor just called. Stage 1A, Grade 1. Negative lymph nodes. Negative Lynch. He said there's a small chance any last minute test could come back disputing this report but unlikely. No further treatment. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I don't think it's hit me yet but based on my family/friends reaction to the news, I should be thrilled. Of course, my mind is thinking, there are still milestones I need to hit. 1. 3. 5. 10 years. Etc. But at least for the next couple of months, I don't have to fear making plans with people. That was the most depressing thing about this as of late. Every time someone wanted to make a future plan with me I couldn't say yes for sure.
Anyway, thank you all for all your support. I'm rooting for all of you and don't plan on disappearing from the forums. You all were so important in helping me keep a little sane throughout this process so far.
Great news!!! Congratulation!
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