May have been posted before, but PLEASE read

jcortney
jcortney Member Posts: 503
in Head and Neck Cancer #1

Folks, take 15 minutes of your time and watch this video.  It is truly enlightening.

Here is the link.  Scroll down to the second video "can we eat to starve cancer".

 

http://www.ted.com/playlists/a_cure_for_cancer

 

Joe

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  • debbiejeanne
    debbiejeanne Member Posts: 3,102 Member
    #2
    i couldn't find it joe :0(
    dj

    i couldn't find it joe :0(

    dj

  • Laralyn
    Laralyn Member Posts: 532
    #3
    There's actually a FANTASTIC

    There's actually a FANTASTIC book that goes into this subject and more. It was written by a doctor, and everything in it is backed by science:

    Anticancer

    I really recommend it!

    It's funny when you think about it: we all know how a PET scan works. Cancer loves sugar and consumes it so much more quickly than other tissue that we can tag it so it shows up in the scan. Yet doctors usually don't tell us to eat less sugar when we're fighting cancer. Wouldn't that make sense?

  • jcortney
    jcortney Member Posts: 503
    #4
    Laralyn said:

    There's actually a FANTASTIC

    There's actually a FANTASTIC book that goes into this subject and more. It was written by a doctor, and everything in it is backed by science:

    Anticancer

    I really recommend it!

    It's funny when you think about it: we all know how a PET scan works. Cancer loves sugar and consumes it so much more quickly than other tissue that we can tag it so it shows up in the scan. Yet doctors usually don't tell us to eat less sugar when we're fighting cancer. Wouldn't that make sense?

    Agree

    My wife made me read that before we found the video.  Literally left me shaking my head on why this is information that is not widely disseminated.

  • corleone
    corleone Member Posts: 312 Member
    #5
    Laralyn said:

    There's actually a FANTASTIC

    There's actually a FANTASTIC book that goes into this subject and more. It was written by a doctor, and everything in it is backed by science:

    Anticancer

    I really recommend it!

    It's funny when you think about it: we all know how a PET scan works. Cancer loves sugar and consumes it so much more quickly than other tissue that we can tag it so it shows up in the scan. Yet doctors usually don't tell us to eat less sugar when we're fighting cancer. Wouldn't that make sense?

    Warburg hypothesis

    This is what actually the Nobel laureate Otto Heinrich Warburg postulated.

    Not sure if eating less sugar has a direct influence, but how/what kind you eat it (highly refined sugars, or sugars with high glycemic index are to be avoided). Indirectly though, refraining from high sugar diets has health benefits in general.

    In my view what would be interesting (and I couldn’t find anything yet on this subject) is to conjugate a sugar moiety with a classic chemotherapy drug (like cisplatin). The cancer cell would tend to include this compound in greater quantity, compared with a less active (or normal) cell. Therefore you could reduce the drug level, hence less general toxicity.

     

  • cid817
    cid817 Member Posts: 58
    #6
    corleone said:

    Warburg hypothesis

    This is what actually the Nobel laureate Otto Heinrich Warburg postulated.

    Not sure if eating less sugar has a direct influence, but how/what kind you eat it (highly refined sugars, or sugars with high glycemic index are to be avoided). Indirectly though, refraining from high sugar diets has health benefits in general.

    In my view what would be interesting (and I couldn’t find anything yet on this subject) is to conjugate a sugar moiety with a classic chemotherapy drug (like cisplatin). The cancer cell would tend to include this compound in greater quantity, compared with a less active (or normal) cell. Therefore you could reduce the drug level, hence less general toxicity.

     

    Sugar and Cancer

    I recently read an article about using sugar along with a lower dose of chemo. The sugar opened up the cancer cells and the chemo would be more readily absorbed into the cancer cells along with the sugar.  Made sense to me. 

    When we were checking out oncs for my hubby's chemo I asked one of them what he thought about sugar feeding cancer.  He looked at me like I had 2 heads and told me that eating sugar doesn't matter because everything we eat turns to glucose.  Needless to say, we did not choose him for treatment.  We went with one who was open to all my questions.  Although, sometimes my hubby looked at me like I had 2 heads, but the onc was very supportive of all I asked.  Lol

    Cindy

     

  • donfoo
    donfoo Member Posts: 1,773 Member
    #7
    interesting for sure

    Hi Joe,

    Thanks for posting as it was a new twist to an old topic - food and cancer. In so many ways. the more I live and learn about cancer the less I feeel I understand any of it except its too often devasting effects.

    The video is interesting and worth the time to view. I clipped one slide showing the list of foods that may "starve" cancer blood cells. There is another that shows how dramatic the differences are between them: berries and tumeric for example.

    I spent some time looking into this and figured it might be of interest to some. My little research excursion did not go to the anti-angionensis specifc sites and publications as those are obviously biased. Instead I hunted in two standard sites. NIH-NCI and NCBI for pubs.

    The most interesting was this page at cancer.gov. It lists a variety of cancers being evaluated and unfortunately oral cancer is not in the list and few SCC etiology cancers.

    Going on looking for pubs and trials, some targeted searching on pubmed was somewhat dismal as well. Here is the search for angiogenesis AND oral AND squamous

    I'd sure love it if this would help us oral HNC SCC cancer folks but it seems the major efforts in this area are on different cancers. At least that is just my opinion from what I research. Hope it helps. Don

     

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  • PJ47
    PJ47 Member Posts: 376
    #8
    Hi Joe

    Thank you for this post.  My husband and I have read David Servan-Schreiber MD,PhD's book Anti Cancer several times during my treatment and we follow the recommendations as much as possible.  I take curcumin supplements and also a mushroom supplement called turkey tail or "Host Defense"  which NIH used in several studies as did MD Anderson and it was found to boost the immune systerm during treatment. I still take both and watch my diet.  Even if the trials were done on breast cancer and colon cancer patients my feeling is that it is worth a try and won't cause any harm and neither one are costly.  Anything that can create a hostile environment for cancer to grow in may help.  

    Another great book that gave us a healthy respect and overall understanding about cancer is Siddhartha Mukherjee's Emperor of All Maladies.  Have not looked at your video but will do so and will also look up Otto Henrich Warburg. 

    Best to you,

    PJ

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