WHICH COMES FIRST WHEN PROSTATE CANCER HAS SPREAD ?
Which usually comes first when prostate cancer has spread: a fast, high-rising PSA or pain at the site where the cancer has spread?
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Each PCa case is different
There is no proper answer for your question. Each PCa case is different and the advancement of the disease may have different conclusions. Some cancers produce lesser PSA serum even in low Gleason and some patients are lesser sensitive to pain. Cancer in bone does usually cause pain very nasty in some but this occurs in advanced cases when cells are of greater Gleason patterns, less diferenciated and therefore producing lesser PSA.
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VG
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cancer has spread
i had radical robotic prostatectomy on 8/21/18 along with removal or two lymph nodes for pathology. i recieved the report today { not good} gleason score of 9. my question is, what can i expect next. i see my urologist on the 30th. thanks for any info
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Urologist will go over pathology, I imagine
You can ask him about margins, complications, and what else he saw.
Your next PSA test result will suggest what needs to be done. Some doctors ask for this early on, others wait for tissues to heal. Whatever, hopefully, your post op PSA will be very low or 'undetectable'.
It would be infomative if you posted the complete pathology report.
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RT following RPrdw453 said:cancer has spread
i had radical robotic prostatectomy on 8/21/18 along with removal or two lymph nodes for pathology. i recieved the report today { not good} gleason score of 9. my question is, what can i expect next. i see my urologist on the 30th. thanks for any info
I had similar post op pathogy, Gleason 9, Lymph negative, positive margins, +SVI. My doctor refered me to an oncologist and she but me on 37 days of radiadtion 90 days after my surgery. This was not Salvage RT. I finished RT on 7/20/2018 and my next PSA test is next week, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Good Luck!
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2nd opinionsrdw453 said:cancer has spread
i had radical robotic prostatectomy on 8/21/18 along with removal or two lymph nodes for pathology. i recieved the report today { not good} gleason score of 9. my question is, what can i expect next. i see my urologist on the 30th. thanks for any info
I don't know where you had your surgery, and who read your pathology report. I would seek 2nd and 3rd opinions from prostate cancer experts to see what the best treatment options are. John Epstein at Johns Hopkins is the top prostate pathologist in the nation. Get your oncologist to have him read your reports and do his own testing. My husband had his robotic surgery 1/30/18. He was originally diagnosed with Gleason 9 (started at 7 on local level -then John Hopkins, Memorial Sloan Kettering, and Mayo both staged at Gleason 9 pre surgery). He was downgraded post surgery to Gleason 7. We made the decision early on to seek advise from many of the top notch prostate centers in the US/World. We chose Memorial Sloan Kettering in NYC to work with my husband because we knew we had more options for cutting edge treaetment if he came out a 9 post surgery. Good luck. I tell everyone knowledge is power. Get to the experts in the field to help you make decisions. Love and prayers.
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Pain
Dipstick,
Two friends of mine died with PCa in the last 7 years. Both had PCa over 13 years. Neither of them had ANY PCa-related pain for over 12 of those years. As Vasco wrote, pain is usually a latecomer in the process, and is usually from advanced bone involvement.
So, even men with metastatic disease need not have any worries regarding pain, at least not for a long, long time after diagnosis. Usually.
max
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YesCBHowry said:RT following RP
I had similar post op pathogy, Gleason 9, Lymph negative, positive margins, +SVI. My doctor refered me to an oncologist and she but me on 37 days of radiadtion 90 days after my surgery. This was not Salvage RT. I finished RT on 7/20/2018 and my next PSA test is next week, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Good Luck!
CB,
It sounds like your RT was an additional therapy "toward curative effect," or to cure/completely eradicate the disease.
As you note, this is not regarded as salvage therapy, which has differing outcome probabilities. I hope for great news in your case,
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Adjuvant radiation was my next steprdw453 said:cancer has spread
i had radical robotic prostatectomy on 8/21/18 along with removal or two lymph nodes for pathology. i recieved the report today { not good} gleason score of 9. my question is, what can i expect next. i see my urologist on the 30th. thanks for any info
I had the exact same post op pathology: Gleason 5+4, lymph nodes not involved. My urologist refered me to an oncologist and she put me on 37 days of ART (Adjuvant Radiation Therapy) Completed ART on 7/20/18. Waiting till next week for my next PSA test.
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Please start a new threadred2dog said:Lupron and Casodex treament just started.
Looking for others who have started this same course. Question is what was you sequencing of adminstration of the drugs ?
But in the meantime, let me assure you that Casodex is commonly prescribed to prevent 'Lupron flare'. Hence, Casodex first and then Lupron.
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I had my prostate removed
I had my prostate removed three monthas ago and my last P.S.a test was high I am going to start two months of hormon therapy and Six weeks of radiation treatments thats the plan any way the doctor told me by doing the radiation it would weaken the cancer by basically starving it,
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New threads
Hi lads,
Start a new thread, give us lots of details about your case eg PSA levels, date of diagnosis, etc.
Lay out a timeline with all relevant details and I will bet that one of us has experienced it and has some helpful and relevant comments to make.
It is easy!
Best wishes,
Georges0
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