Pet Scan today- update ...hip fracture- mets confirmed
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Oh Jenunknown said:I am absolutely amazed
that the radiology tech seeing the scan did not call for a radiologist for an urgent interpretation of the fracture. He should have never been moved from the scanner board until paramedics arrived to immobilize the leg and transfer him to the ED of your hospital. It borders on negligence which must be proved by 3 conditions: the person knew something was wrong, had a duty to act, and an injury or worsening occurred due to the failure to act. The fracture could have easily been made worse just by moving him without proper immobilization.
And then for the on call doc not to make an effort to contact your personal oncologist despite him being off that weekend is deplorable to me. Your personal physicians not only have a vested interest in your health, they should have a vested interest in your relationship. If they could have contacted him/her and he cares, he would have come.
I'm sorry I went off on this, but my thoughts and prayers are for a good outcome.
Dan
My heart breaks for you both. You've already been through so much.
It also makes you wonder who, exactly dropped the ball and why wasn't this discovered sooner? As Chelsea says, don't ever second guess yourself. You have been doing all the right things and you have done the best you know how. I'm just so sorry the medical care has not been better. Been there, done that! I hope his team will become involved ASAP and a course of action will be taken.
You are in my thoughts.
Luv,
Wolfen
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Jen, I think the only thingjen2012 said:According to the ortho
According to the ortho resident, there are two options. If it is a CRC met, then they put a pin in and he could stand on it same night. She said the pin could spread the cancer, so if it's CRC and already in the system they don't worry about that. Easy for them to say. If it was some other early stage cancer, they wouldn't want to spread it, so they would do another procedure - which we didn't get into that. I'm so confused about it all at this point and hoping the doctors are making the right decisions. Neither his onc or the ortho onc that she has been discussing his case with are on this weekend, but they have already been in contact with the on call doctors - so stuff is happening behind the scenes, but we don't know all of it yet. They have not said how big the met was. I'm kind of surprised they didn't suggest keeping him after the pet scan - they must have seen it and they saw the pain he was in...
Jen, I think the only thing you can do right now is put your trust in the professionals and hope they know what's best for your husband. People, both patients and caregivers, who have joined CSN are typically people who want to take an active role in their treatment. Generally speaking, we want to be informed, do our own research and make our own decisions. This situation sounds very serious and very complicated. I would just let the doctors figure out the treatment and hope for the best. In my own situation, I have spent a lot of time blaming myself for outcomes that could have been different but as time passes I gain perspective and realize that all I could do was follow the advice and recommendations of the professionals. We aren't doctors (at least most of us aren't) and we just have to put our faith in their hands. Which is not to suggest that we shouldn't raise hell when necessary. They need to get this figured out and begin treatment. I think you and DH will both feel much better once on a solid treatment plan. Thanks for the update.
Chels
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So sorry for this developmentjen2012 said:Well we ended up in ER last
Well we ended up in ER last night when the pain got so bad that he couldn't move. Had to call an ambulance and it took them an hour to get him in the ambulance. He has a fractured hip...where the femur meets the hip. According to the ortho doc, he has a met there. The same one that has been biopsied 3 times and been negative. So I guess bone mets are confirmed. They still want to do a surgical biopsy to make sure this is a CRC met and not a different kind of cancer - which they say is unlikely to be a different cancer, but it would change the course of treatment so they want to be sure.
I know how you are feeling...with my sister it finally got to the point where we were going tnsist that she be admitted for pain control even if they didn't know the cause. As it turned out, the last ER visit was where they could see the fracture in her pelvis and determined it was bone mets from her uterine cancer.
The brain MRI was done to determine if there was a differnt cause for the pain being so bad. In her case, all was clear there.
The ER doctor said that bone mets can cause pain from pressing on a nerve long before they can be seen on the tests. Odd I know.
Have they done a bone scan? I would think they might before a biopsy. In my sister's case they did neither due because of other indicators making any treatment beyond radiation of questionable use. And of course radiation does not care what kind of cancer the met is.
Prayers that they can soon get hubby's pain under control and be done with tests and on to treatment.
Hugs for you both.
Marie who loved kitties
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How frustratingjen2012 said:Well we ended up in ER last
Well we ended up in ER last night when the pain got so bad that he couldn't move. Had to call an ambulance and it took them an hour to get him in the ambulance. He has a fractured hip...where the femur meets the hip. According to the ortho doc, he has a met there. The same one that has been biopsied 3 times and been negative. So I guess bone mets are confirmed. They still want to do a surgical biopsy to make sure this is a CRC met and not a different kind of cancer - which they say is unlikely to be a different cancer, but it would change the course of treatment so they want to be sure.
So sorry to hear that its a met but happy to know that they finally figured out what the problem is. atleast now they can try to get him some relief. its too bad that somethings have to get to a critical point before they are able to figure it out. Last year my husband was having bleeding at his osteomy and we chased doctors and tests for three months and nobody could figure it out until he bled so much that he had to be life flighted to the hospital and then wow they finally got it. I was so aggravated cuz I was like we have been tellin u guys this for months but nobody took it serious enough til it got to this point. Try to hang in there. Sending prayers up.
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prayers and hugs
Prayers and hugs steaming your way. Our modern and evolving medical system is seemingly moving care of lovd ones back to the famiy, without education or training :-(
I hope he feels better soon and you can get some rest yourself.
Art
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So sorryfatbob2010 said:prayers and hugs
Prayers and hugs steaming your way. Our modern and evolving medical system is seemingly moving care of lovd ones back to the famiy, without education or training :-(
I hope he feels better soon and you can get some rest yourself.
Art
So sorry to read about al the trouble. At least you know now why the severe pain. Let's pray for pain free days and moving ahead with a treatment.
all is so frustrating, my prayers are definitely with you both.
marjan
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Surgery will be sometime
Surgery will be sometime tomorrow. I questioned why we are relying on biopsies and was told that because this is his second cancer, they need to know what they are dealing with. I guess that makes sense. Xray today shows he also has a stress fracture on the left femur. Both have lit up on MRI and the onc said last month that it's really unusual for bone mets to be symmetrical like that and that was another reason, besides negative biopsies, she was questioning it.
Thank you all for your comments and support.
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My heart goes out to youjen2012 said:Surgery will be sometime
Surgery will be sometime tomorrow. I questioned why we are relying on biopsies and was told that because this is his second cancer, they need to know what they are dealing with. I guess that makes sense. Xray today shows he also has a stress fracture on the left femur. Both have lit up on MRI and the onc said last month that it's really unusual for bone mets to be symmetrical like that and that was another reason, besides negative biopsies, she was questioning it.
Thank you all for your comments and support.
It has been months since I have been on the site after my husband passed. I came back and have been reading all the tremendously difficult things that you and your husband have been going through. Sometimes there just are no words for how challenging life can be ... I just wish you peace as you travel this very difficult path. -- Cynthia
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Ahhhh Jenjen2012 said:crc mets
Biopsy confirms Mets. They set the right leg. They want him to recover a bit before doing the other leg. Not sure how long before they can start treatment.
d@mn it, I'm so sorry that it's mets, but glad he is getting the care finally that he needs.
It is amazing what does NOT show up on scans, I've been through that myself lately. You've done all the right things, unfortunately our medical system isn't infallible, but when they finally catch what is wrong, it's a relief to get it fixed.
I send you both my heart and nothing but good thoughts in a speedy recovery for your husband.
Hugs and Luv,
Winter Marie
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herdizziness said:
Ahhhh Jen
d@mn it, I'm so sorry that it's mets, but glad he is getting the care finally that he needs.
It is amazing what does NOT show up on scans, I've been through that myself lately. You've done all the right things, unfortunately our medical system isn't infallible, but when they finally catch what is wrong, it's a relief to get it fixed.
I send you both my heart and nothing but good thoughts in a speedy recovery for your husband.
Hugs and Luv,
Winter Marie
Oh, Jen, I am sorry thatOh, Jen, I am sorry that you are both going through so much once again. This disease is so insidious. Hopefully, now there will be pain relief.....pain is a horrible thing to go thru and to watch. Know that you are in my heart and prayer.
Be gentle with yourself.
CM
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sorryjen2012 said:crc mets
Biopsy confirms Mets. They set the right leg. They want him to recover a bit before doing the other leg. Not sure how long before they can start treatment.
that's tough news to hear for sure. You have been such a great caregiver throughout this, your husband is lucky to have you. I hope that your husband is able to get the treatment he needs and soon. Traci
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Thank you all for your kind
Thank you all for your kind words and support. It's really helpful to "talk" to people who understand. And not say things like "oh a broken leg - he'll be fine" ....or the opposite with the doom. People do say strange things.
He's recovering from the first surgery and was moved to a private room on the oncology floor. Surgical was not used to dealing with the amount of pain meds he's requiring. We know the oncology nurses anyhow and they are all wonderful - and it's a slow week -only 4 or 5 patients on the floor, so he's had 2 nurses since he's been moved. Plenty of attention, but they've been sensitive to the fact that he doesn't want to be bugged all day either.
She did send him yesterday for the brain MRI - I'm not thinking about that, just hoping it's fine.
He will have the 2nd leg set on Tuesday. Another rod from the knee to the hip. So Thanksgiving will not be at home and our youngest is not allowed to visit That's going to be difficult for him. (though I just got an email from the social worker to see if she can work out an exception for Thanksgiving)
The oncologist thinks he'll be starting chemo two weeks after the next surgery, but is waiting for approval from the ortho surgical onc. Folfiri I think. I assume that avastin will be added after several more weeks.
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I am sorry for what you arejen2012 said:Thank you all for your kind
Thank you all for your kind words and support. It's really helpful to "talk" to people who understand. And not say things like "oh a broken leg - he'll be fine" ....or the opposite with the doom. People do say strange things.
He's recovering from the first surgery and was moved to a private room on the oncology floor. Surgical was not used to dealing with the amount of pain meds he's requiring. We know the oncology nurses anyhow and they are all wonderful - and it's a slow week -only 4 or 5 patients on the floor, so he's had 2 nurses since he's been moved. Plenty of attention, but they've been sensitive to the fact that he doesn't want to be bugged all day either.
She did send him yesterday for the brain MRI - I'm not thinking about that, just hoping it's fine.
He will have the 2nd leg set on Tuesday. Another rod from the knee to the hip. So Thanksgiving will not be at home and our youngest is not allowed to visit That's going to be difficult for him. (though I just got an email from the social worker to see if she can work out an exception for Thanksgiving)
The oncologist thinks he'll be starting chemo two weeks after the next surgery, but is waiting for approval from the ortho surgical onc. Folfiri I think. I assume that avastin will be added after several more weeks.
I am sorry for what you are both going through. You must be exhausted. The caregiver always seems to get neglected. I hope his mri is clean. I hope the social worker can make arrangements for you youngest to see your husband on thanksgiving. I am sure that will really boost his spirits.
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Got the okay on bringing thejanderson1964 said:I am sorry for what you are
I am sorry for what you are both going through. You must be exhausted. The caregiver always seems to get neglected. I hope his mri is clean. I hope the social worker can make arrangements for you youngest to see your husband on thanksgiving. I am sure that will really boost his spirits.
Got the okay on bringing the 2 yr old for Thanksgiving :-)
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Thars great. I couldn'tjen2012 said:Got the okay on bringing the
Got the okay on bringing the 2 yr old for Thanksgiving :-)
Thars great. I couldn't imagine them not making an exception considering the situation.
Happy thanksgiving
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Whoo Hoojen2012 said:Got the okay on bringing the
Got the okay on bringing the 2 yr old for Thanksgiving :-)
Sometimes it's the little things in life that have the biggest impact. I'm so glad to hear two year old gets to come on Thanksgiving.
I think several of us have spent the holidays in the hospital (Christmas for me), what makes it a special day is the family, and the fact he's in the hospital getting the care he needs, and with the youngest coming on Thanksgiving, it will be special for you all.
Thinking of you both,
Winter Marie
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*Deep cleansing breaths*jen2012 said:Thank you all for your kind
Thank you all for your kind words and support. It's really helpful to "talk" to people who understand. And not say things like "oh a broken leg - he'll be fine" ....or the opposite with the doom. People do say strange things.
He's recovering from the first surgery and was moved to a private room on the oncology floor. Surgical was not used to dealing with the amount of pain meds he's requiring. We know the oncology nurses anyhow and they are all wonderful - and it's a slow week -only 4 or 5 patients on the floor, so he's had 2 nurses since he's been moved. Plenty of attention, but they've been sensitive to the fact that he doesn't want to be bugged all day either.
She did send him yesterday for the brain MRI - I'm not thinking about that, just hoping it's fine.
He will have the 2nd leg set on Tuesday. Another rod from the knee to the hip. So Thanksgiving will not be at home and our youngest is not allowed to visit That's going to be difficult for him. (though I just got an email from the social worker to see if she can work out an exception for Thanksgiving)
The oncologist thinks he'll be starting chemo two weeks after the next surgery, but is waiting for approval from the ortho surgical onc. Folfiri I think. I assume that avastin will be added after several more weeks.
What an ordeal.
Its obviously no fun, but it sounds like he is in excellent hands (yours) and I'm glad that he's getting the right care on an Onc ward.
It will be a different Thanksgiving for sure (I spent last years Thanksgiving drinking goup and sitting on the loo becasue my bowel resection was the next day), but you have each other and the children.
Blessings and healing thoughts continue your way.
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Jen
So sorry all that you and family are going through. At least you got some explanations for all the pain going on and can start working on the fix. I will be thinking about you and your family over the holidays.
Sandy0
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