Cancer Treatment Centers of America, anybody?
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ENOUGH!gatorbob said:See Ya!
For the sake of reason I'll opt out of this discussion. IceManToo ends his post telling us he will leave his political opinions off the forum! That's after he spends his first comments with the same stuff! Again,this NOT the place for that commentary! Grow up......or Shut Up!
To the 'Lady with the cold,wet nose',I wish you luck and peace! You will find a successful treatment.Don't give up on Winship yet!!
BC
ENOUGH!
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Iceman!icemantoo said:Oh well
Can't make everybody happy.
I guess I will go back to limiting my advice to Kidney Cancer where it belongs.
Icemantoo
Putting politics to one side, I would just like to say that there is no one on this site more supportive than Iceman. He has been posting since 2010 and there are many of us who are grateful that he gives up his time to give us the benefit of his advice. He is always one of the first to offer his support to new members!
Above all else we should treat each other with respect!
Djinnie
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Nothing to addgatorbob said:See Ya!
For the sake of reason I'll opt out of this discussion. IceManToo ends his post telling us he will leave his political opinions off the forum! That's after he spends his first comments with the same stuff! Again,this NOT the place for that commentary! Grow up......or Shut Up!
To the 'Lady with the cold,wet nose',I wish you luck and peace! You will find a successful treatment.Don't give up on Winship yet!!
BC
Todd
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Take your anger and pleasegatorbob said:See Ya!
For the sake of reason I'll opt out of this discussion. IceManToo ends his post telling us he will leave his political opinions off the forum! That's after he spends his first comments with the same stuff! Again,this NOT the place for that commentary! Grow up......or Shut Up!
To the 'Lady with the cold,wet nose',I wish you luck and peace! You will find a successful treatment.Don't give up on Winship yet!!
BC
Take your anger and please direct it toward your cancer and your recovery! This is truly NOT the place to be calling names....and don't think for a minute that we didn't catch the "to the lady with the cold, wet nose" reference. You don't call ANY woman on this forum a b!tch, no matter how graciously you put it, and not get called on it! None of us need this crap! Iceman too is one of the most informed and helpful people on this forum and would never use a phrase in a vulgar or hateful manner. And just of general information, I had never heard nor read either of the "meanings" of the phrase "teabaggers", so I guess I must really be naive. I cannot un-read those descriptions now, however....thanks a lot.
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Agree!TillieSOK said:Take your anger and please
Take your anger and please direct it toward your cancer and your recovery! This is truly NOT the place to be calling names....and don't think for a minute that we didn't catch the "to the lady with the cold, wet nose" reference. You don't call ANY woman on this forum a b!tch, no matter how graciously you put it, and not get called on it! None of us need this crap! Iceman too is one of the most informed and helpful people on this forum and would never use a phrase in a vulgar or hateful manner. And just of general information, I had never heard nor read either of the "meanings" of the phrase "teabaggers", so I guess I must really be naive. I cannot un-read those descriptions now, however....thanks a lot.
I am with you there Tillie, I think I much preferred naivity!
Djinnie
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Thank you Gatorbobgatorbob said:Bad MoJo
May I remind IceManToo the purpose of this site is to assist those fighting a horrible disease to find someone who might help make their journey a little easier!!!! It is NOT a place to air your political point of view!!! To do so is a slap in the face to all those seeking help and all those trying to give it. There are plenty of sites dedicated to that. Find one!!!!
As an aside......the term"teabagger" is street talk for Child Molester.A bad lable to assign to anyone when "you knoweth not where you speak".
BC
Thank you. I don't think Cancer cares what anyone's political position is and I don't remember reading that this is a site that is strictly for any political ideology. Also, not only is your definition of the term teabagger correct, but bluntly, it also means: A male that **********************************Edited because I never meant to offend by providing a definition ***************. This act is known as "teabagging". Therefore, by calling someone that name you are essentially calling them a sexual offender or making some judgment regarding thier sexual preferences. Just because someone vulgarly and incorrectly used that the term a few years ago in a grotesque and failed attempt at humor, doesn't mean it is ok. Do people really think it's ok to make light of sexual assault? Do we tolerate this behavior in other areas? I think not... I do not mean to offend anyone with this and will delete if asked. However, if people are going to revert to name calling then perhaps they should know exactly what the terms they use mean. Also, I am in no way am defending CTCA or the Koch brothers - I know nothing about them.
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Didn't mean to offendTillieSOK said:Take your anger and please
Take your anger and please direct it toward your cancer and your recovery! This is truly NOT the place to be calling names....and don't think for a minute that we didn't catch the "to the lady with the cold, wet nose" reference. You don't call ANY woman on this forum a b!tch, no matter how graciously you put it, and not get called on it! None of us need this crap! Iceman too is one of the most informed and helpful people on this forum and would never use a phrase in a vulgar or hateful manner. And just of general information, I had never heard nor read either of the "meanings" of the phrase "teabaggers", so I guess I must really be naive. I cannot un-read those descriptions now, however....thanks a lot.
I'm sorry if I offended you. I mean that with all sincerity. I honestly never thought someone would be offended more by the definition of a word than the actual usage of the word. I tried to I explain it without being crude. As you can see I edited it out of my comment, if someone is curious they can look it up for themselves. I will say that I have asked around and it isn't exactly a new phrase - been in use since at least the 70's, and not in reference to a political group...
Also, I agree that calling a woman that name, no matter how subtly, is disgraceful. We should all be civil enough to have a coversation without reverting to name calling....that was the whole point of this chaotic nonsense in the begining I think....
I had a lot more on here about teaching kids right from wrong when adults sling mud quicker than a child making mud pies and choice and ownership of ones actions and ... a lot of other topics... but I will leave it at, " I am really sorry if you were offended by my post. I never meant that. I never meant to be combative either."
-Guess thats the problem with typing instead of talking, a lot is lost.
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Done & Dusted!MeMeJoy said:Didn't mean to offend
I'm sorry if I offended you. I mean that with all sincerity. I honestly never thought someone would be offended more by the definition of a word than the actual usage of the word. I tried to I explain it without being crude. As you can see I edited it out of my comment, if someone is curious they can look it up for themselves. I will say that I have asked around and it isn't exactly a new phrase - been in use since at least the 70's, and not in reference to a political group...
Also, I agree that calling a woman that name, no matter how subtly, is disgraceful. We should all be civil enough to have a coversation without reverting to name calling....that was the whole point of this chaotic nonsense in the begining I think....
I had a lot more on here about teaching kids right from wrong when adults sling mud quicker than a child making mud pies and choice and ownership of ones actions and ... a lot of other topics... but I will leave it at, " I am really sorry if you were offended by my post. I never meant that. I never meant to be combative either."
-Guess thats the problem with typing instead of talking, a lot is lost.
No worries MeMe! ...Definition or usage, are all the same to me I had never heard of either. I am in Europe though so there is no reason for me to have come across it! It has put me off my Earl Grey for a bit though!
Djinnie x
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Phoenix,Phoenix Rising said:Misunderstanding
I don't think Icemantoo meant "teabaggers" in a sexual or vulgar sense.... he meant Tea Party supporters, right? And if CTCA is a money syphon that is not the altruistic organization that it makes itself out to be, and does not truly lend to improving all our lives, yet takes our money for the purpose of supporting political causes-- be they Republican, Democrat, muskrat... I don't mind the mention of it. I have now done my own research, as well, but I wanted to hear from my forum friends, because that is what we are here to do. We are here to inform and support each other. Someone else may have these same questions and may gain knowledge from our responses without participating in the conversation.
**Steps down from soapbox**
Carry on! Anybody else have experience with CTCA?
Robin, SmartPhoenix,
Robin, Smart Patients Coordinator, recently responded to a question about CTCA on Smart Patients. Included in her response was the following: "Cancer Treatment Centers of America has no particular expertise in renal cell carcinoma, which is a very unusual cancer in the way it behaves and responds."
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No problem...I wasn'tMeMeJoy said:Didn't mean to offend
I'm sorry if I offended you. I mean that with all sincerity. I honestly never thought someone would be offended more by the definition of a word than the actual usage of the word. I tried to I explain it without being crude. As you can see I edited it out of my comment, if someone is curious they can look it up for themselves. I will say that I have asked around and it isn't exactly a new phrase - been in use since at least the 70's, and not in reference to a political group...
Also, I agree that calling a woman that name, no matter how subtly, is disgraceful. We should all be civil enough to have a coversation without reverting to name calling....that was the whole point of this chaotic nonsense in the begining I think....
I had a lot more on here about teaching kids right from wrong when adults sling mud quicker than a child making mud pies and choice and ownership of ones actions and ... a lot of other topics... but I will leave it at, " I am really sorry if you were offended by my post. I never meant that. I never meant to be combative either."
-Guess thats the problem with typing instead of talking, a lot is lost.
No problem...I wasn't offended....just "shocked" that I was unaware of its meaning. I consider myself well read, was married to a military man, and have worked for a hard rock radio station, and I had never heard that. We are all here to conquer one thing and to learn all we can about that thing, and I don't think we need to waste our energy or our anger on "something else" we have no control over, to the point of fussing with one another over a misspoken word. Just my humble opinion and probably worth what you paid for it.
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Sorry ladies...
Teabagger actually has several meanings. One definition is that of someone who works or is in a low economic status, while some have used the term to describe the activist group the Tea Party. It's obvious from the context that's what Iceman meant. It is also the term for a fun and safe sexual act where a man lowers his balls in another person's (male or female) mouth. I don't know what street GatorBob lives on, but this term has nothing to do with child molestors or violence and it is not derogatory.
I can't believe how one purist noob managed to turn a free discussion of treatment options into a disgrace worthy of Jerry Springer.
Speaking of CTCA - it's a well-known fact in the cancer community that they cook statistics, only accept patients with perfect insurance and excellent prognosis. I have no personal knowledge of them outside of many discussions on other boards.
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lolDjinnie said:Done & Dusted!
No worries MeMe! ...Definition or usage, are all the same to me I had never heard of either. I am in Europe though so there is no reason for me to have come across it! It has put me off my Earl Grey for a bit though!
Djinnie x
Earl Grey.....I actually lol-ed !!!!! Good one!
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Well see now that's where you are mistaken....Alexandra said:Sorry ladies...
Teabagger actually has several meanings. One definition is that of someone who works or is in a low economic status, while some have used the term to describe the activist group the Tea Party. It's obvious from the context that's what Iceman meant. It is also the term for a fun and safe sexual act where a man lowers his balls in another person's (male or female) mouth. I don't know what street GatorBob lives on, but this term has nothing to do with child molestors or violence and it is not derogatory.
I can't believe how one purist noob managed to turn a free discussion of treatment options into a disgrace worthy of Jerry Springer.
Speaking of CTCA - it's a well-known fact in the cancer community that they cook statistics, only accept patients with perfect insurance and excellent prognosis. I have no personal knowledge of them outside of many discussions on other boards.
Who are you to determine what is and isn’t derogatory? Are you a Tea Party Member? If so then my apologies, you have more of a dog in this fight than I do.
de·rog·a·to·ry
diˈrägəˌtôrē/
adjective: derogatory
1. showing a critical or disrespectful attitude.
So, calling someone any name after you have been told that it is offensive is....well offensive and means you are doing so in a derogatory fashion. And though I am not a Tea Party member, I’m pretty sure they have been quite vocal about how offensive the term is....That said any further use of the word to describe them is done so with callous disregard for common decency. When any group stands up and says "Hey that’s not cool" the collective WE should stop for a moment and think before we speak and not condone those comments which clearly mean to disparage others. I also don't find homo/hetero/bi/any other sexual, racial, sexist, religious, disability, etc. slurs acceptable - and certainly not here.
Also, I'm sure that the college girls (and others) that are, often times drunk and therefore unknowingly, subjected to this act as a form of assault at parties, wouldn't like to be refered to as teabaggers. Nor would the guys who are subjected to this, often unreported, form of locker room bullying/prank/assault. Think it doesn't happen? Think again!!!
By all means if this is your idea of "fun and safe" personal time then of course you should not be offended by the term. More power to you Alexandra - you go girl - Drink that Tea!!!!
Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that one would be vilified for saying that a CANCER website was NOT the place for political ideology or NAME CALLING! You gotta be friggin' kidding me!! I don't have the energy for this anymore...
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ENOUGH!!!!MeMeJoy said:Well see now that's where you are mistaken....
Who are you to determine what is and isn’t derogatory? Are you a Tea Party Member? If so then my apologies, you have more of a dog in this fight than I do.
de·rog·a·to·ry
diˈrägəˌtôrē/
adjective: derogatory
1. showing a critical or disrespectful attitude.
So, calling someone any name after you have been told that it is offensive is....well offensive and means you are doing so in a derogatory fashion. And though I am not a Tea Party member, I’m pretty sure they have been quite vocal about how offensive the term is....That said any further use of the word to describe them is done so with callous disregard for common decency. When any group stands up and says "Hey that’s not cool" the collective WE should stop for a moment and think before we speak and not condone those comments which clearly mean to disparage others. I also don't find homo/hetero/bi/any other sexual, racial, sexist, religious, disability, etc. slurs acceptable - and certainly not here.
Also, I'm sure that the college girls (and others) that are, often times drunk and therefore unknowingly, subjected to this act as a form of assault at parties, wouldn't like to be refered to as teabaggers. Nor would the guys who are subjected to this, often unreported, form of locker room bullying/prank/assault. Think it doesn't happen? Think again!!!
By all means if this is your idea of "fun and safe" personal time then of course you should not be offended by the term. More power to you Alexandra - you go girl - Drink that Tea!!!!
Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that one would be vilified for saying that a CANCER website was NOT the place for political ideology or NAME CALLING! You gotta be friggin' kidding me!! I don't have the energy for this anymore...
Meme, this is aENOUGH!!!!
Meme, this is a forum for kidney cancer NOT sexual definitions or mores.
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Calling me out...srbelle1 said:ENOUGH!!!!
Meme, this is aENOUGH!!!!
Meme, this is a forum for kidney cancer NOT sexual definitions or mores.
Now thats rich!
How is it that no one here can seem to concede that name calling is wrong??? I am truly astounded that I am the one in this situation that is being attacked!! Now it is funny!!!!! lol
And makes the state of the world make SO much more sense!!!!
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I wish I worked at a radio station!!!TillieSOK said:No problem...I wasn't
No problem...I wasn't offended....just "shocked" that I was unaware of its meaning. I consider myself well read, was married to a military man, and have worked for a hard rock radio station, and I had never heard that. We are all here to conquer one thing and to learn all we can about that thing, and I don't think we need to waste our energy or our anger on "something else" we have no control over, to the point of fussing with one another over a misspoken word. Just my humble opinion and probably worth what you paid for it.
I can see your point! And value your opinion. I just have always felt that sometimes you have to stop turning a blind eye.... It's not really about Iceman ya' know? It's about respect. Just because people don't agree doesn't mean they can't show a little respect to one another. Especially here. I know I'm not an official member of "the club" anymore but one thing I liked about this site in the begining was that I felt everyone was welcome. I would hope other "noobs" feel that way too.
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The use of the phrase...MeMeJoy said:Calling me out...
Now thats rich!
How is it that no one here can seem to concede that name calling is wrong??? I am truly astounded that I am the one in this situation that is being attacked!! Now it is funny!!!!! lol
And makes the state of the world make SO much more sense!!!!In context, it was clear (to me at least) that Ice was insulting members of the tea party political stanse. Not making a sexual reference.
Ok, politics do not belong on this board, but sexual things even less. I want the board to be safe for work.
And Politics do belong when it impacts cancer -- funding for the National Cancer Institute / NIH is ok.
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Yepdhs1963 said:The use of the phrase...
In context, it was clear (to me at least) that Ice was insulting members of the tea party political stanse. Not making a sexual reference.
Ok, politics do not belong on this board, but sexual things even less. I want the board to be safe for work.
And Politics do belong when it impacts cancer -- funding for the National Cancer Institute / NIH is ok.
Funding should be there!!!
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Hey what do you mean no sexMeMeJoy said:Yep
Funding should be there!!!
Hey what do you mean no sex around here.. Darn that is half of my schtick. No one has ever commented to me before. I have openly flirted with most of the women here and apologize to those I have missed. So let's get back to fighting cancer.. Oh and more sex... Ron
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