What’s-UP PEOPLE!

Hondo said:

Hi Ellamenno

Sometimes when things start to die you need to add a little spice to wake it up. I too am a Christian but I don’t believe posting the Ten Commandments or printing In God we trust on our money makes any different. God does not want a people that go around posting His law on the ground or on a billboard He wants a people who have His law in their hearts & minds. We are a free country as long as we have aSeparation of Church and State; God does not need the State to tell His people what to do. I worry when I see Christians here in the US trying to force their view of religion on everyone. I heard one guy preaching that Freedom of religion did not mean freedom from religion that is what is wrong with this country he said. I prefer to believe in God the way I read and understand in His book then applying that in my life. So to me posting what He said in my yard or on a billboard or in a public place does nothing, living what He said and keeping His law in my heart and mind does everything.

 

God Bless and thanks for posting

Hondo

I forgot to add that my son fought to help keep our rights and I find it an honor to be able to show my witness in my yard on a billboard or however I choose. The sad thing is our troops have fought for the freedom of religion and even though Christianity is being pushed out, I stillhave to stand for my Lord and Savior in any way possible. He expecdts us to be a witness for him Gpd Bless YOu!

Hondo said:

Hi Debby

Welcome to CSN

 

True God lead the pilgrim to this wonderful new land because of persecution from the Church of Roman. Back 250 years ago you did as the Church told you and if you disagreed with them you were considered heretic and killed. Look at Foxe’s Book of Martyrs and that book only contains few of what the church did in the name of God..

 

The First Amendment says that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. True that our nation started as a Lamb like beat with freedom of religion and freedom from religion for everyone. The problem is that you should not force what you believe on another person. There is nothing wrong with posting the Ten Commandments on your property. God said in Hebrews that He will write His laws in our heart and minds, so if God’s law is in my heart and mind. I am going to do His will and go out and make disciples of people who choose to believe what He said. I agree with you I just don’t want our freedom to be taking away and to be force to believe a Government imposed religion. When that happens the US would be no different then the Muslim’s where religion is dictated by men not God.   

 

The Bible tells us that in the last days, Gods people will again be persecuted because they refused to believe in the man made religion and they hold fast to God’s truth. I just wonder how much longer we will have this freedom in our country.

 

Many of my family members served in the military some died so that I could have freedom; there bravery and the courage will never be forgotten

 

Thanks for your thread God Bless.

Hondo

Hi Hondo, I am so glad you posted in hopes of opening this forum up again. I too remember it being a very lively place, and sometimes a very heated one at that!  Unfortunetly this topic will always have controversy. There is such a wide spectrum of different beliefs, opinions, that not everyone will be of the same mindset. Having traveled to foreign countries where "Freedom" doesn't ring, I have only come to appreciate the meaning of freedom all the more. I think if people wish to advertise their beliefs by means of a billboard in their frount lawn, etc. they have the "Freedom" to do that. Isn't that what America is about? Freedom to pursue choices, beliefs, opinions, ideas, speech, and not be executed for them, granted there are consequences when we choose poorly.  When we add religion into the mix, we are free again, to share our faith, to believe or not. Biblicaly speaking the Word does say: "Consider yourself blessed when you are pursected for my namesake."

ellamenno said:

Hey there Hondo!!

In response to your post I have to say I'm really a supporter of the Seperation of Church and State. I feel the printing of "in god we trust" on our money and "under god" in the Pledge of Allegiance" is rather discriminatory to those of non-christian faith as well as those of no faith. BTW, the original pledge had no mention of god till 1954. The reason it was added was to let the Russians know that we weren't "godless communists" but was never taken out when the cold war ended.

Great post Hondo, but I'm pretty sure it will be rather provocative.

 

What are your thoughts on the subject Hondo?

 

Hope you're doing well

 

Peace, Laurie

I too prefer seperation of church and state particularly in the US which is made up of people of all different backgrounds including religions.   I think it is ironic that we do have 'In God we Trust' on our money which is fiat money, actually not backed by anything and can loose its value at any time.  You certainly need to trust in God with something so unstable as the US dollar i.e. nothing to back it.

A question I ask is:  should our currency be backed by gold and silver or is paper enough or does no-one care?

Mariam