Axitinib / Inlyta
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It took six pretty nurses toGSRon said:hi Angie.. The vampire just
hi Angie.. The vampire just drained half a liter out of me. My blood is very thick like syrup. Dr was concerned about a stroke. But I also had six pretty nurses to hold my hand.
It took six pretty nurses to hold you down? Wow! LOL Thick blood is not good! What are they doing about that?
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Home now... Hi all.. OK, soGSRon said:hi Angie.. The vampire just
hi Angie.. The vampire just drained half a liter out of me. My blood is very thick like syrup. Dr was concerned about a stroke. But I also had six pretty nurses to hold my hand.
Home now... Hi all.. OK, so my Onc appointment was for 3:30, and I got the normal pre-Onc inspections. When my Onc came in, she was worried.. very worried.. my Red Blood Count spiked up. As it was about 5 PM, she ran off to get me set up for a major blood draw.. which she described like in olden days when they put leaches to suck blood out... So, as the Hemitology Dept was closed, she had me go to the Infusion dept which I found out is open until 9 PM. At least I got a look see at how that goes.. nice comfy reclining chairs, TV next to each chair, etc. Well, they quickly said I had to go into a separate room with a bed.. plus a tv of course. Here came the crowd.. the one guy that as to do the poking, and then a bunch of darn purdy nurses to watch it all. They asked permission to watch, so I took the opportunity to ask if any of them were student types, which got me saddened faces... nope all true Nursey types.. You see they never saw a blood withdrawal in that room, so I was the center of attention. I must mention a true international group, I spotted the Irish Lass straight off... got a smile out of her.. and some for all over.. Then it was time.. the Vampire guy checked both arms several times.. and I saw a couple of half liter bottles.. and I stupidly asked just how BIG is that needle..? BIG was the reply.. yes it stung when he poked my skin, then stung again when he poked in to the vein...but no way was I gonna be a wuss with all the women watching.. (ya know how it is..).. Good news is he found gold, I mean blood.. it splattered all over.. The bottles are vacuum sealed, so once the line is pushed in to the rubber seal it sucks the blood out in to the bottle.. slowly.. very slowly.. He was smart enough to think that once there was about 250 ML that it was time to change to another bottle (more vacuum). Then when he got to 350 l, he "thought" we were done, and pulled the needle out.. ouch again. Then he called my Onc who told him no, get a full 1/2 liter... so a new needle and a new location... geesh.. well he got that 150ml plus... They had me drink a similar amount of water. Then told me to go home... Wait I said, how about checking my vitals.. Ooops they forgot.. glad I reminded them.. my BP was normal for the first time since I started the Inlyta.
So, you may want to know if this is all related to Inlyta.. My Onc thinks not... it is either the Cancer or another issue.. more tests to follow.. and likely more blood draws weekly or more often... geeesh...
Nice to be home..! Oh yes, my Onc said to start a daily Aspirin regimin to try and thin my blood out...
Ron
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I'm glad that you're home and feeling better RonGSRon said:Home now... Hi all.. OK, so
Home now... Hi all.. OK, so my Onc appointment was for 3:30, and I got the normal pre-Onc inspections. When my Onc came in, she was worried.. very worried.. my Red Blood Count spiked up. As it was about 5 PM, she ran off to get me set up for a major blood draw.. which she described like in olden days when they put leaches to suck blood out... So, as the Hemitology Dept was closed, she had me go to the Infusion dept which I found out is open until 9 PM. At least I got a look see at how that goes.. nice comfy reclining chairs, TV next to each chair, etc. Well, they quickly said I had to go into a separate room with a bed.. plus a tv of course. Here came the crowd.. the one guy that as to do the poking, and then a bunch of darn purdy nurses to watch it all. They asked permission to watch, so I took the opportunity to ask if any of them were student types, which got me saddened faces... nope all true Nursey types.. You see they never saw a blood withdrawal in that room, so I was the center of attention. I must mention a true international group, I spotted the Irish Lass straight off... got a smile out of her.. and some for all over.. Then it was time.. the Vampire guy checked both arms several times.. and I saw a couple of half liter bottles.. and I stupidly asked just how BIG is that needle..? BIG was the reply.. yes it stung when he poked my skin, then stung again when he poked in to the vein...but no way was I gonna be a wuss with all the women watching.. (ya know how it is..).. Good news is he found gold, I mean blood.. it splattered all over.. The bottles are vacuum sealed, so once the line is pushed in to the rubber seal it sucks the blood out in to the bottle.. slowly.. very slowly.. He was smart enough to think that once there was about 250 ML that it was time to change to another bottle (more vacuum). Then when he got to 350 l, he "thought" we were done, and pulled the needle out.. ouch again. Then he called my Onc who told him no, get a full 1/2 liter... so a new needle and a new location... geesh.. well he got that 150ml plus... They had me drink a similar amount of water. Then told me to go home... Wait I said, how about checking my vitals.. Ooops they forgot.. glad I reminded them.. my BP was normal for the first time since I started the Inlyta.
So, you may want to know if this is all related to Inlyta.. My Onc thinks not... it is either the Cancer or another issue.. more tests to follow.. and likely more blood draws weekly or more often... geeesh...
Nice to be home..! Oh yes, my Onc said to start a daily Aspirin regimin to try and thin my blood out...
Ron
Slow blood draws after sundown, surrounded by pretty blood-thirsty nurses licking their red lips... Was the guy poking called Dr A.Cula?
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Oh my dearest Alexandra..Alexandra said:I'm glad that you're home and feeling better Ron
Slow blood draws after sundown, surrounded by pretty blood-thirsty nurses licking their red lips... Was the guy poking called Dr A.Cula?
Oh my dearest Alexandra.. love your style..! Actually the guy is from Panama... we had a nice chat while the blood drops got spilled..a lot more than 10 drops... heh..
OK, so my mistake, no picture this time.. but if I have to do that again, I will try to get a picture or two. But the level of care there at Stanford is awesome..! Blankets, water, TV, graham crackers all brought to me without asking..
Got a copy of my blood tests from yesterday, they do not look as bad as I had thought... still waiting for the next directions...
Be Well All..!!
Ron
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FYI, looks like I get toGSRon said:Oh my dearest Alexandra..
Oh my dearest Alexandra.. love your style..! Actually the guy is from Panama... we had a nice chat while the blood drops got spilled..a lot more than 10 drops... heh..
OK, so my mistake, no picture this time.. but if I have to do that again, I will try to get a picture or two. But the level of care there at Stanford is awesome..! Blankets, water, TV, graham crackers all brought to me without asking..
Got a copy of my blood tests from yesterday, they do not look as bad as I had thought... still waiting for the next directions...
Be Well All..!!
Ron
FYI, looks like I get to repeat the Vampire act on Monday... Wonder what the reaction would be if I wore a ring of garlic around my neck..? I live near Gilroy, California which is the Garlic Capitol of the World.. so they say...
Ron
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Here I am waiting to getcran1 said:Holyshit! haahha
Holyshit! haahha
Here I am waiting to get needled. But I got my blood tests done. My red blood cell issues are not likely Inlyta related. This means another issue. Too early to speculate. The one last test results are not done yet. Just hope for at least one nurse to kiss my owee. Ron
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Ms Irish is going to poke meGSRon said:Here I am waiting to get
Here I am waiting to get needled. But I got my blood tests done. My red blood cell issues are not likely Inlyta related. This means another issue. Too early to speculate. The one last test results are not done yet. Just hope for at least one nurse to kiss my owee. Ron
Ms Irish is going to poke me now. But I got a food discount card for it taking so long. Oh no.. Ms Irish is blonde.. Ron
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Ms Irish - you're so luckyGSRon said:Ms Irish is going to poke me
Ms Irish is going to poke me now. But I got a food discount card for it taking so long. Oh no.. Ms Irish is blonde.. Ron
You get poked by a naughty blonde head nurse. I got poked 7 times today by a geriatric wearing crocs and bifocals before she finally found the vein. My arm looks like a blue colander.
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Alexandra... so sorry to hearAlexandra said:Ms Irish - you're so lucky
You get poked by a naughty blonde head nurse. I got poked 7 times today by a geriatric wearing crocs and bifocals before she finally found the vein. My arm looks like a blue colander.
Alexandra... so sorry to hear that.... I would gladly offer to kiss your boo boo...
Ron
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Aha..!!GSRon said:Alexandra... so sorry to hear
Alexandra... so sorry to hear that.... I would gladly offer to kiss your boo boo...
Ron
Hi All..!! I almost started a new posting.. not sure if I should or not.. but if request it is easy enough to do..! I think I now have the answer to my blood thickness issue along with a couple of old concerns I had... I think I have.. Polycythemia vera See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycythemia_vera for more info about it.
I had several concerns at time of surgery last March, 2012, that never got answered. I had.. enlarged Liver and Spleen. I have that skin peel on my hands, feet, and those in between regions. I also have red hands most of the time. And most recently the high blood pressure caused by excessive red bloow cells, high Hematocrit and Hemoglobin. All the above are syptoms of Polycythemia vera. Plus my parents are of European descent which increased the odds a bit. So I just e-mailed my Dr about it all.. The main treatment is exactly what was perscribed.. remove 500 CC's of blood regularly which for me is twice a week.
So whre did I get the lead..?? Well tonight at Shop Nite (a regular Wednesday night event).. The sweetie of a pal of mine who just happens to be one smart nurse figured it out.. Darn fast too..!! I owe her a bottle of wine... wonder what her favorite is..?
Ron
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Polycythemia veraGSRon said:Aha..!!
Hi All..!! I almost started a new posting.. not sure if I should or not.. but if request it is easy enough to do..! I think I now have the answer to my blood thickness issue along with a couple of old concerns I had... I think I have.. Polycythemia vera See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycythemia_vera for more info about it.
I had several concerns at time of surgery last March, 2012, that never got answered. I had.. enlarged Liver and Spleen. I have that skin peel on my hands, feet, and those in between regions. I also have red hands most of the time. And most recently the high blood pressure caused by excessive red bloow cells, high Hematocrit and Hemoglobin. All the above are syptoms of Polycythemia vera. Plus my parents are of European descent which increased the odds a bit. So I just e-mailed my Dr about it all.. The main treatment is exactly what was perscribed.. remove 500 CC's of blood regularly which for me is twice a week.
So whre did I get the lead..?? Well tonight at Shop Nite (a regular Wednesday night event).. The sweetie of a pal of mine who just happens to be one smart nurse figured it out.. Darn fast too..!! I owe her a bottle of wine... wonder what her favorite is..?
Ron
Ron, my father in law had that. He had blood removed every week or so for a while. He did well.
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Yes, I did a lot offoxhd said:Polycythemia vera
Ron, my father in law had that. He had blood removed every week or so for a while. He did well.
Yes, I did a lot of reading... should be OK.. just a bit concerned about having my veins all messed up.. but it will be OK.. However the latest issue is my job.. It was not an issue taking a bit of time every 90 days, but twice a week has become an issue.. This may force me out... Now that may also be OK, just a new frontier for me.. we will see..
But, this kind of makes all my info on side effects on Inlyta invalid to some degree.. Just hope it is working... we will see in about 2 months...
Ron
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Inlyta ExperienceGSRon said:Yes, I did a lot of
Yes, I did a lot of reading... should be OK.. just a bit concerned about having my veins all messed up.. but it will be OK.. However the latest issue is my job.. It was not an issue taking a bit of time every 90 days, but twice a week has become an issue.. This may force me out... Now that may also be OK, just a new frontier for me.. we will see..
But, this kind of makes all my info on side effects on Inlyta invalid to some degree.. Just hope it is working... we will see in about 2 months...
Ron
Hi Ron;
I too, have been on the Inlyta, starting in March of this year. My initial tablets, (like you) were (2) 5mg. tablets daily, but after 3 1/2 weeks, I found myself in the E.R. with what was initially thought to be a heart attack, (flush skin, sweating, and unable to catch my breath). 2 hours later, the E.R staff was unable to give me a difinitive answer, as to why this had happened. MY GP Doc and Oncologist conferred and mutually agreed that I should discontinue the Inlyta for an undetermined length of time and "see what happens". 2 month's later all my internal systems had returned to normal, so we resumed the Inlyta albeit, only a single 5mg. tablet daily. Yesterday, 10/11/2013, I had labs/CT/and bone scan, and on Monday 10/14/2013 will get the news on mets activity. I am encouraged, because after the first go round of just 3 weeks plus, the CT's showed significant shrinkage, and now I've been on the stuff for 4 month's straight. For me, my BP has been well managed well by using Tribenzor 20-12.5, and a thyroid med called Levothyroxin 25mcg. I have minimal side effects and quality of life remains good.
Best of luck to you. Gary
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Gary,toolman1 said:Inlyta Experience
Hi Ron;
I too, have been on the Inlyta, starting in March of this year. My initial tablets, (like you) were (2) 5mg. tablets daily, but after 3 1/2 weeks, I found myself in the E.R. with what was initially thought to be a heart attack, (flush skin, sweating, and unable to catch my breath). 2 hours later, the E.R staff was unable to give me a difinitive answer, as to why this had happened. MY GP Doc and Oncologist conferred and mutually agreed that I should discontinue the Inlyta for an undetermined length of time and "see what happens". 2 month's later all my internal systems had returned to normal, so we resumed the Inlyta albeit, only a single 5mg. tablet daily. Yesterday, 10/11/2013, I had labs/CT/and bone scan, and on Monday 10/14/2013 will get the news on mets activity. I am encouraged, because after the first go round of just 3 weeks plus, the CT's showed significant shrinkage, and now I've been on the stuff for 4 month's straight. For me, my BP has been well managed well by using Tribenzor 20-12.5, and a thyroid med called Levothyroxin 25mcg. I have minimal side effects and quality of life remains good.
Best of luck to you. Gary
Finally some good news.Gary,
Finally some good news. I am thrilled. And I hope 10/14 will prove you're metless. 10/14 marks John's two year anniversary since his RCC diagnosis. So I'm keeping fingers crossed we're celebrating his anniversary plus good news from you. Please keep us posted.
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alice124 said:
Gary,
Finally some good news.Gary,
Finally some good news. I am thrilled. And I hope 10/14 will prove you're metless. 10/14 marks John's two year anniversary since his RCC diagnosis. So I'm keeping fingers crossed we're celebrating his anniversary plus good news from you. Please keep us posted.
Tool Guy.. yes goodTool Guy.. yes good news..! Hope it continues to go well for you.. Alice I love your term.. "Metless".. You should trade mark that one..!!
Ron
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New wordsGSRon said:
Tool Guy.. yes goodTool Guy.. yes good news..! Hope it continues to go well for you.. Alice I love your term.. "Metless".. You should trade mark that one..!!
Ron
OK, so I am learning new words.. I am to get a new blood test, Erythropoietin or EPO fpr short. This is a protein that tells my body to make more red blood cells. It could be that I am making too much of this EPO and that is the cause of my latest issue.
>>>Normal serum concentrations of erythropoietin for 95% of individuals with normal hematocrits range from 4-27 mU/mL.
As the hematocrit is lowered by iron deficiency, aplastic or hemolytic anemia, the concentration of erythropoietin increases as shown in the graph below. In the absence of anemia, elevated concentrations are seen in renal tumors, as a manifestation of renal transplant rejection, and in secondary polycythemia. Low values may be observed in hemochromatosis.<<<
More fun today.. .another 1/2 liter to be drawn..wonder who is doing the deed today..?? We will see...Oh and the cause of this latest issue can be either my Liver or my one Kidney..or..??
Be Well All..!!
Ron
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Inlyta Experience "Part II"toolman1 said:Inlyta Experience
Hi Ron;
I too, have been on the Inlyta, starting in March of this year. My initial tablets, (like you) were (2) 5mg. tablets daily, but after 3 1/2 weeks, I found myself in the E.R. with what was initially thought to be a heart attack, (flush skin, sweating, and unable to catch my breath). 2 hours later, the E.R staff was unable to give me a difinitive answer, as to why this had happened. MY GP Doc and Oncologist conferred and mutually agreed that I should discontinue the Inlyta for an undetermined length of time and "see what happens". 2 month's later all my internal systems had returned to normal, so we resumed the Inlyta albeit, only a single 5mg. tablet daily. Yesterday, 10/11/2013, I had labs/CT/and bone scan, and on Monday 10/14/2013 will get the news on mets activity. I am encouraged, because after the first go round of just 3 weeks plus, the CT's showed significant shrinkage, and now I've been on the stuff for 4 month's straight. For me, my BP has been well managed well by using Tribenzor 20-12.5, and a thyroid med called Levothyroxin 25mcg. I have minimal side effects and quality of life remains good.
Best of luck to you. Gary
10/14/2013 Follow up to labs/CT/Bone Scan;
So the basics are posted on my entry above. The first go-round of the Inlyta (3weeks or 23 days), showed 1-3% met reduction in size, (even though the scan results are read in cm's of initial dia vs reduction in dia). This scan showed all but 1 met had reduced an average of 8-15% in size. The one met that is resisting the drug, has not changed (larger or smaller) since beginning the drug. Don't know why. So now that the cough has been managed, I'm going back to the once daily 5mg. Inlyta tablets. It's odd to me, (the results, that is), because initially, the Onc. had told me that this particular drug was supposed to hold all mets at their current size, and not allow further growth. I'm not complaining for sure, just pleased at the results!
Stay tuned folks. Gary
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Gary glad you are doingtoolman1 said:Inlyta Experience "Part II"
10/14/2013 Follow up to labs/CT/Bone Scan;
So the basics are posted on my entry above. The first go-round of the Inlyta (3weeks or 23 days), showed 1-3% met reduction in size, (even though the scan results are read in cm's of initial dia vs reduction in dia). This scan showed all but 1 met had reduced an average of 8-15% in size. The one met that is resisting the drug, has not changed (larger or smaller) since beginning the drug. Don't know why. So now that the cough has been managed, I'm going back to the once daily 5mg. Inlyta tablets. It's odd to me, (the results, that is), because initially, the Onc. had told me that this particular drug was supposed to hold all mets at their current size, and not allow further growth. I'm not complaining for sure, just pleased at the results!
Stay tuned folks. Gary
Gary glad you are doing better. I have some good news.. My blood is not as bad as it was. So they are going to take a half liter of blood in a few minutes, but it looks like only once a week now. Ron
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Joining The Inlyta Club now
Hey Kids,
I guess I am the newest member of the Inlyta Club. Here's hoping it doesn't suck.
Background- Stage 4 Papillary RCC, 2009; Rad neph, IVC thrombectomy, lymph resection 2009. Remove single lung met 2011. New lungs mets popping up here and there. IL2 2012- failure (Boooo!), Votrient 2012-2013(Boooo! Hisssss!) LY2875358 5 infusions (Booooo!)
So the next deal is Inlyta, just got off the phone with the specialty pharmacy. 1 mg tabs, 3 tabs, 2x daily-- so 6 mg daily. Will be trying some facets of Nanosecond's diet and supplements along with it. I'm not into side effects-- I have golfing and skiing and rollerskating and dancing and stuff to do.
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