throat cancer

I just found this site and really need any experienced info anyone can give...I have just finished my rad treatments 35 of them and have my 3rd and last cisplatin hopefully tomorrow ....it has been delayed because of low white count...I have throat cancer am 50 yrs old and never smoked but it is the HPV type...can anyone out there tell me when you get your appetite back...I was lucky and have been able to eat the whole way thru...but have no desire too and have to force myself...I have also lost 20 lbs and really enjoy food and would like to start enjoying it again...also when you start getting your energy back....I miss doing things with my kids and wonderful wife.

 

Thanks,

B

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  • debbiejeanne
    debbiejeanne Member Posts: 3,102 Member
    ben, u don't say what kind of

    ben, u don't say what kind of throat cancer u had.  if you don't mind telling us you will get better info.  i'm sure someone here may have had the same dx and will be able to give you first hand info.  I had cancer of the larynx but it took me a few months to have any type of energy.  the desire to eat also takes a few months.  everyone is different tho.  i'm sure you will hear from others but as i said, the info will be more to fit u if you state your type of cancer.

    good luck,

    dj

  • phrannie51
    phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
    Welcome Ben....

    Glad you found our little slice of the internet.

    Your body has been through a lot these last few weeks.....and you did good....REALLY good eating all the way through.  I did 35 rads along with Cisplatin....but then had another 3 treatments of Cisplatin/5FU after radiation was over....so I basically had two endings to my treatment.  While I had an appetite in my mind, my body wasn't as coopertive....I'd watch food shows, and be starving, but when it came time to actually eat something....well....three or four bites/sips...and that was plenty. 

    Everybody is different....some regain tastebuds, and some saliva quickly after treatment (say 3 weeks or so).....some of us are far slower in the return to normal.  I'm a year out of treatment now, and have regained maybe 50% of my saliva, and 70% of my taste...I just figure, no biggie.....eat to live, rather than live to eat.  A couple of folks on here got most of everything back within 2 years....so I'm keeping that in my horizon.  I slowly regained my energy over a four or five month time period....tho I did go back to work full time within 6 weeks of finishing treatment.

     Healing from this treatment comes in weeks and months....never days.....keep your expectations in check, and enjoy not having to go to rads everyday....and only one more Cisplatin treatment....WHOO HOO!! Laughing 

    p

  • CivilMatt
    CivilMatt Member Posts: 4,724 Member
    hurry up and heal, you bet

    B,

    Appetite and regaining energy just take time.  Appetite kind of follows its own game plan and energy takes a little push.  Stay hydrated; get plenty of rest and try different foods or playing with the kids.  After you are a month post you should start to see and feel improvements.

    Keep the faith,

    Matt

  • Roar
    Roar Member Posts: 269 Member
    Had he same treatment

    I had I lymph node removed- an unknown primary- HPV positive - 1 months post treatment. Still having issues with taste, saliva, neuropathy and hearing loss, not to mention the lymphodima ( duck neck) under the chin. I had almost the same treatment as you although I don't know what they targeted with you. Finally after 10 months I am almost able to eat whatever I want. The process of recovery is not measured in days or weeks but rather months and years. Learn to adapt. I now blend every morning kale and fruits along with flax seeds and nuts and a scoop of whey protein. I wasn't able to drink that until a few months after treatment. I too lost about 30 lbs. guess we were lucky. Didn't need a feeding tube. When I was just out of treatment French toast, noodles mixed with an egg, ensure kept me going. Melted American cheese on various breads kept me full. Good luck in your fight. Others on this sight are more knowledgeable than me. Look to them for answers and check out the super thread

  • benjamin2121
    benjamin2121 Member Posts: 24

    ben, u don't say what kind of

    ben, u don't say what kind of throat cancer u had.  if you don't mind telling us you will get better info.  i'm sure someone here may have had the same dx and will be able to give you first hand info.  I had cancer of the larynx but it took me a few months to have any type of energy.  the desire to eat also takes a few months.  everyone is different tho.  i'm sure you will hear from others but as i said, the info will be more to fit u if you state your type of cancer.

    good luck,

    dj

    I am sorry I have stage

    I am sorry I have stage 4 larynx cancer ...the crazy thing is the waiting....they said they want us to come back in three months to see if the treatment worked...did you have to wait that long for your pet scan and if so what besides faith got you through

     

    B

  • ratface
    ratface Member Posts: 1,337 Member
    Roar said:

    Had he same treatment

    I had I lymph node removed- an unknown primary- HPV positive - 1 months post treatment. Still having issues with taste, saliva, neuropathy and hearing loss, not to mention the lymphodima ( duck neck) under the chin. I had almost the same treatment as you although I don't know what they targeted with you. Finally after 10 months I am almost able to eat whatever I want. The process of recovery is not measured in days or weeks but rather months and years. Learn to adapt. I now blend every morning kale and fruits along with flax seeds and nuts and a scoop of whey protein. I wasn't able to drink that until a few months after treatment. I too lost about 30 lbs. guess we were lucky. Didn't need a feeding tube. When I was just out of treatment French toast, noodles mixed with an egg, ensure kept me going. Melted American cheese on various breads kept me full. Good luck in your fight. Others on this sight are more knowledgeable than me. Look to them for answers and check out the super thread

    Just a little longer

    Ben all the good stuff is right over that next hill over there. You are doing well. Don't sweat the white count thing, a small hurdle. We had similar  cancers and similar treatments at similar ages. I'm doing very well four years out. Give yourself 6 months. You have been to hell, it takes a little time to crawl back. Congrats on finishing soon and Welcome.

  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Welcome...

    Myself like the others pretty much went through the same thing...

    More than likely you are still having pain from eating/drinking..., not to mention water tastes like sweat and everything else either has no taste, or just plain tastes bad...

    Once you get through that, start regaining a little saliva and taste, more than likely your appetite will follow.

    You aren't really going to have any energy until you start consuming calories..

     

    It's all a domino effect..., regain saliva and taste, appetite increases, calorie intake increases, energy increases....

    Hang in there, time is on your side...

    John

  • benjamin2121
    benjamin2121 Member Posts: 24

    Welcome Ben....

    Glad you found our little slice of the internet.

    Your body has been through a lot these last few weeks.....and you did good....REALLY good eating all the way through.  I did 35 rads along with Cisplatin....but then had another 3 treatments of Cisplatin/5FU after radiation was over....so I basically had two endings to my treatment.  While I had an appetite in my mind, my body wasn't as coopertive....I'd watch food shows, and be starving, but when it came time to actually eat something....well....three or four bites/sips...and that was plenty. 

    Everybody is different....some regain tastebuds, and some saliva quickly after treatment (say 3 weeks or so).....some of us are far slower in the return to normal.  I'm a year out of treatment now, and have regained maybe 50% of my saliva, and 70% of my taste...I just figure, no biggie.....eat to live, rather than live to eat.  A couple of folks on here got most of everything back within 2 years....so I'm keeping that in my horizon.  I slowly regained my energy over a four or five month time period....tho I did go back to work full time within 6 weeks of finishing treatment.

     Healing from this treatment comes in weeks and months....never days.....keep your expectations in check, and enjoy not having to go to rads everyday....and only one more Cisplatin treatment....WHOO HOO!! Laughing 

    p

    thank you so much for your

    thank you so much for your note ....it really made me smile...I also watch the food shows which make my brain want all that yummy food....but when I go to eat it.....it is just not the same...but after your note I am happy that comes back...we are actually up in Rochester getting the treatments and are staying a extra cpl weeks before heading back home to Texas...I am hoping that will make the two day trip with my wife, 3 kids and our dog a little easier.

    Thanks again

  • benjamin2121
    benjamin2121 Member Posts: 24
    CivilMatt said:

    hurry up and heal, you bet

    B,

    Appetite and regaining energy just take time.  Appetite kind of follows its own game plan and energy takes a little push.  Stay hydrated; get plenty of rest and try different foods or playing with the kids.  After you are a month post you should start to see and feel improvements.

    Keep the faith,

    Matt

    Matt...thanks for the

    Matt...thanks for the note...I am working hard at staying hydrated....it seems to help.

    Thanks again

    B

  • benjamin2121
    benjamin2121 Member Posts: 24
    ratface said:

    Just a little longer

    Ben all the good stuff is right over that next hill over there. You are doing well. Don't sweat the white count thing, a small hurdle. We had similar  cancers and similar treatments at similar ages. I'm doing very well four years out. Give yourself 6 months. You have been to hell, it takes a little time to crawl back. Congrats on finishing soon and Welcome.

    Ratface...thanks for the

    Ratface...thanks for the message...like to hear similars stories that turned out well...the Doc say we have to wait 3 months for the next pet scan....was that the same with you...if so how did you handle the wait....well besides running ....looks like that is one way.

     

    Thanks

    B

  • benjamin2121
    benjamin2121 Member Posts: 24
    Roar said:

    Had he same treatment

    I had I lymph node removed- an unknown primary- HPV positive - 1 months post treatment. Still having issues with taste, saliva, neuropathy and hearing loss, not to mention the lymphodima ( duck neck) under the chin. I had almost the same treatment as you although I don't know what they targeted with you. Finally after 10 months I am almost able to eat whatever I want. The process of recovery is not measured in days or weeks but rather months and years. Learn to adapt. I now blend every morning kale and fruits along with flax seeds and nuts and a scoop of whey protein. I wasn't able to drink that until a few months after treatment. I too lost about 30 lbs. guess we were lucky. Didn't need a feeding tube. When I was just out of treatment French toast, noodles mixed with an egg, ensure kept me going. Melted American cheese on various breads kept me full. Good luck in your fight. Others on this sight are more knowledgeable than me. Look to them for answers and check out the super thread

    Roar....funny how much I

    Roar....funny how much I worry about vanity...you metioned the duck neck thing and it makes me crazy....I have to concetrate on the blessings and not the things that dont matter....your right we were lucky our side effects could have been much worse....

     

    Thanks,

    B

  • benjamin2121
    benjamin2121 Member Posts: 24
    Skiffin16 said:

    Welcome...

    Myself like the others pretty much went through the same thing...

    More than likely you are still having pain from eating/drinking..., not to mention water tastes like sweat and everything else either has no taste, or just plain tastes bad...

    Once you get through that, start regaining a little saliva and taste, more than likely your appetite will follow.

    You aren't really going to have any energy until you start consuming calories..

     

    It's all a domino effect..., regain saliva and taste, appetite increases, calorie intake increases, energy increases....

    Hang in there, time is on your side...

    John

    John thanks for the

    John thanks for the encouragement....and speaking of dominoes ....it sounds good....hope it starts tasting well soon...

     

    Thanks,

    B

  • benjamin2121
    benjamin2121 Member Posts: 24
    so today i couldnt get my

    so today i couldnt get my last chemo because of white count being too low....did anyone out there just get 2 and still do okay...they told me as long as I got the 2 it was nominal difference on the third....i just hate leaving any cards on the table so to speak. I really want to beat this thing and keep my voicebox.

    thanks,

    B

     

  • debbiejeanne
    debbiejeanne Member Posts: 3,102 Member

    I am sorry I have stage

    I am sorry I have stage 4 larynx cancer ...the crazy thing is the waiting....they said they want us to come back in three months to see if the treatment worked...did you have to wait that long for your pet scan and if so what besides faith got you through

     

    B

    b, that is the same cancer i

    b, that is the same cancer i had.  i had 35 rad tx.  it recurred 1.5 yrs afterwards and i had a complete laryngectomy.  i assume u had rads and chemo?  btw, several people here had to skip a tx b/c of low wbc.  like the others said, it is going to take time and patience to get back to any type of "normal".  in fact, u will actually find u have a "new" normal.  john calls us "abi-normal" and i think hes right...lol.  be patient and enjoy each day and each little improvement.

    dj

  • Ladylacy
    Ladylacy Member Posts: 773 Member
    2 Cisplatin treatments

    When my husband was diagnosed with laryngeal cancer, he underwent the 35 radiation and 3 cisplatin treatments.  Well it ended up 2 cisplatin treatments due to kidney problems and low blood count.  But in his case, the tumor was still there and he underwent a complete laryngectomy.  As far as eating that is something he had trouble with because the back of his throat was closed off due to radiation and had to be reconstructed.  But after that he was able to eat.

    Remember everyone is different in how they respond to treatment.  With radiation you cook for a while afterwards.  My husband's first PET/CT scan was too early and the swelling hid the tumor.  It was only 2 months after the PET/CT scan that he had trouble with breathing and that's when they did another biopsy and a trach.  If they had waited 3 months to do the PET/CT scan they would have seen it but his first PET/CT scan was 7 weeks after treatment ended.

    You are lucky that you were able to eat the whole way thru, many can't and rely on feeding tubes.  Give it time, it will get better.

    Wishing you the best -- Sharon

  • benjamin2121
    benjamin2121 Member Posts: 24
    Ladylacy said:

    2 Cisplatin treatments

    When my husband was diagnosed with laryngeal cancer, he underwent the 35 radiation and 3 cisplatin treatments.  Well it ended up 2 cisplatin treatments due to kidney problems and low blood count.  But in his case, the tumor was still there and he underwent a complete laryngectomy.  As far as eating that is something he had trouble with because the back of his throat was closed off due to radiation and had to be reconstructed.  But after that he was able to eat.

    Remember everyone is different in how they respond to treatment.  With radiation you cook for a while afterwards.  My husband's first PET/CT scan was too early and the swelling hid the tumor.  It was only 2 months after the PET/CT scan that he had trouble with breathing and that's when they did another biopsy and a trach.  If they had waited 3 months to do the PET/CT scan they would have seen it but his first PET/CT scan was 7 weeks after treatment ended.

    You are lucky that you were able to eat the whole way thru, many can't and rely on feeding tubes.  Give it time, it will get better.

    Wishing you the best -- Sharon

    Thanks Sharon....how long ago

    Thanks Sharon....how long ago was his procedure and how is everyone adjusting...and what can we expect if that is our option too.

  • benjamin2121
    benjamin2121 Member Posts: 24

    ben, u don't say what kind of

    ben, u don't say what kind of throat cancer u had.  if you don't mind telling us you will get better info.  i'm sure someone here may have had the same dx and will be able to give you first hand info.  I had cancer of the larynx but it took me a few months to have any type of energy.  the desire to eat also takes a few months.  everyone is different tho.  i'm sure you will hear from others but as i said, the info will be more to fit u if you state your type of cancer.

    good luck,

    dj

    Debbie..was your cancer a HPV

    Debbie..was your cancer a HPV related type...and after your surgery...how was the adjustment to your new life with family and friends....hope this isnt to personel...it is just that if my treatments didnt work I too may have to have the same surgery.

     

    Thanks,

    B

  • Duggie88
    Duggie88 Member Posts: 760 Member
    Hi Ben

    Sounds like your doing pretty well. Like others have said we are all different. I lost 92 pounds in about 5 months with the operation and radiation. Keep forcing yourself to eat and drink. Protein drinks helped me alot. I finished radiation the end of March and was out doing yard work at a very slow pace the end of April.

    You found the gem of websites the folks in here can coach you through a championship series.

    Heal on

          Jeff

  • debbiejeanne
    debbiejeanne Member Posts: 3,102 Member

    Debbie..was your cancer a HPV

    Debbie..was your cancer a HPV related type...and after your surgery...how was the adjustment to your new life with family and friends....hope this isnt to personel...it is just that if my treatments didnt work I too may have to have the same surgery.

     

    Thanks,

    B

    b, the adjustment 4 family

    b, the adjustment 4 family wasn.t hard but it was very for me.  i couldn't talk for 1.5 yrs and that was very hard on me.  i was extremely depressed for months.  then my younger sister became deathly ill and that made me see how blessed i was.  i was also able to start talking.  so i got myself together and started living again and being thankful to b alive.  today i talk up a storm and that is a big plus for me and also helped get rid of depression.  my sister is still sick and will b having surgery on her brain on 10/18.  i have to be in good health to make sure she recovers well...lol.  life is much better now.  its not like it was but livable!!  if u have other questions, just ask.  good luck.

    dj