Health Insurance...Obamacare

Marynb said:

Income for ObamaCare
Thanks, Mike. It sounds like there is a new definition of income for health care purposes. "Modified Adjusted Gross Income". Hmmmmm. Wondering why the people at the new Health connector don't have the exact information?

Thanks for the article.

Here is another link further defining MAGI under Obamacare.

http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/healthcare/MAGI_summary13.pdf

Marynb said:

MAGI
Thanks, that is very helpful. I am not sure what the taxable portion of social security payments is. I don't recieve SS now, but was considering retiring next year, 2014.

Approximately 50% of you Social Security benefit could be taxed depending on your total income.

Mike

Viking51 said:

Sucks ****

My mother paid 800 dollars a month for 17 years because of her diagnosis of 4th stage Cervical Cancer in 1995. When it reoccured you think she would have got some of that back since she just had a Hysterectomy and hospital stay and for the most part was really healthy all these years. They hardly covered crap and her and my dad nearly lost thier business and had to borrow money from me and my brother for her healthcare. She passed last year and the only way my dad recovered was from the life insurance. There us something very seriously wrong with thst. There is a great book out there that breaks down the whole thing, everyone is passing it around at work. I am going to read it soon. I think if you google it you will find it. But everyone who has read it that works in Healthcare is pretty woried about Obama Care. Personally my view is Chemo Sucks and hardly works and causes so many problems after. Screw the Insurance companies and go alternative at the same time and try to cure yourself dont rely on the extremely corrupt Pharmaceutical Companies and FDA to dictate your health. Not only will they rob you but your health also and its all for the almighty dollar

I am sorry for the loss of your mother and all the financial problems that followed.  However, coming onto an anal cancer forum and telling us we should go with alternative medicine is probably not good advice, IMO, and I really can't welcome it.  It's true that the cut, burn and poison method is brutal and lots of companies make tons of money off of sick people because of it.  But if you do a little reading up on anal cancer, you'd soon realize that at this current time, it's the only thing that is proven to work.  I am a 5-year survivor because of it.

Marynb said:

Viking51
I am sorry about your Mother. I do understand your anger that the conventional medicine did not work for her. I also agree that our health insurance system MUST be reformed, and Obamacare is not the answer. It does absolutley nothing to curb the rising costs and limit the profits. I cannot agree with you about using alternative medicine for the cure. If alternative medicine was effective in curing cancer, we would not be calling it alternative.

I dare say that if you were diagnosed with cancer, you would want the treatments that were shown, scientifically, to be the most effective. I have had cancer twice and I am praying I do not have to face round 3!

My friend died a year ago from ovarian cancer that had spread to her lungs and brain by the time she was diagnosed. Why had it gone so far? She used alternative medicine and refused to go to a conventional doctor, until one day she was rushed to the ER by her family. When they did a scan and saw the extent of the cancer, they told her that she had months to live, at most. They told her they could possibly extend her life up to 6 months by chemo and radiation to the brain. She did not hesitate to accept that treatment, even though she knew she could not survive. She hung on to hope unitl the very end. She deeply regretted not going to doctors. They could hqve saved her life. She died before she saw her 59th birthday. Much too young to leave her beloved children.

Trust me, when the doctors tell you that they can probably save you, you sign up!

Well said!  When I was going through treatment I said I would never go through that again!  The farther from treatment I get the less sure I am of that statement.  Wanting to live is a strong motivation...

Viking51 said:

Sucks ****

My mother paid 800 dollars a month for 17 years because of her diagnosis of 4th stage Cervical Cancer in 1995. When it reoccured you think she would have got some of that back since she just had a Hysterectomy and hospital stay and for the most part was really healthy all these years. They hardly covered crap and her and my dad nearly lost thier business and had to borrow money from me and my brother for her healthcare. She passed last year and the only way my dad recovered was from the life insurance. There us something very seriously wrong with thst. There is a great book out there that breaks down the whole thing, everyone is passing it around at work. I am going to read it soon. I think if you google it you will find it. But everyone who has read it that works in Healthcare is pretty woried about Obama Care. Personally my view is Chemo Sucks and hardly works and causes so many problems after. Screw the Insurance companies and go alternative at the same time and try to cure yourself dont rely on the extremely corrupt Pharmaceutical Companies and FDA to dictate your health. Not only will they rob you but your health also and its all for the almighty dollar

Hi, and welcome. I am sorry for the loss of your mother. I read your profile and it sounds as though you were very close, and I agree that it is a horrible feeling to feel helpless when one so loved is suffering. Thankyou for your efforts to help in the fight against cancer.

Whether on this board or in life in general we are all entitled to our own opinions. That variety is how problems of great nature are solved. Chemo does as you said "suck"....... but for most of us here it HAS worked and we are living proof, and if faced with this challenge again will probably go with what has proven positive outcomes. Problems afterwards, yes, but life was never promised to us to be easy or problem free. The financial woes would be there cancer or not, but are most definately an added stress when serious illness is involved. That being said, I will admit I find the study of alternative treatments interesting and certainly of some value, just not the route for my personal journey. Funny, we often all arrive at the same destination, but so many different ways to get there.