Allow me a little closure....Please
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Hmmmmmmmm
I don't come often anymore to this board.....as it stirs deep feelings of sadness and loss for me. The people who first saved me from myself the first night I posted,,,,,,, "is anyone out there?" and then prayed that there was. Then Saundra responded and many others.....and then there was loss...But no time during those days.did anyone ever bully or make someone feel bad about their approach to taking care of themselves while fighting the beast. Never. It is so sad to me that someone has done that to a beloved member of this sacred board. I would hope that this person could just let Tethys be......we all do things differently.....we all are trying to get by the best we can...and how we do it..well, I would suggest thats just ok.....Tethys, I hope your hurt can be soothed by a break and that we see you again......you are an integral part of this very important group....Take care of yourself......
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Bullied
If someone has bullied you, I am sorry. Dealing with cancer is difficult enough without maliciousness. I have commented little on your posts because, truthfully, I find them a bit too strident. Although it may not be your intention, I find that there is an element of blame suggested by your posts. By that I mean a message that had one eaten better, lived calmer, subscribed to a better lifestyle, then the cancer would never have occurred. This is very difficult to process. I refuse to blame myself for this illness, and research I've done doesn't bear witness to any single diet, lifestyle, etc that is more or less susceptible to ovarian cancer.
I learned from a wise friend long ago to temper my statements with "I think" or "I believe", or "in my opinion." I prefer that kind of honesty.
Nevertheless, I am probably in the minority on this board and do not want to salt your wounds. Why don't you stay and decide who to read and who to ignore?
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bullied?pattysoo said:Bullied
If someone has bullied you, I am sorry. Dealing with cancer is difficult enough without maliciousness. I have commented little on your posts because, truthfully, I find them a bit too strident. Although it may not be your intention, I find that there is an element of blame suggested by your posts. By that I mean a message that had one eaten better, lived calmer, subscribed to a better lifestyle, then the cancer would never have occurred. This is very difficult to process. I refuse to blame myself for this illness, and research I've done doesn't bear witness to any single diet, lifestyle, etc that is more or less susceptible to ovarian cancer.
I learned from a wise friend long ago to temper my statements with "I think" or "I believe", or "in my opinion." I prefer that kind of honesty.
Nevertheless, I am probably in the minority on this board and do not want to salt your wounds. Why don't you stay and decide who to read and who to ignore?
PattySoo, you are not in the minority.
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Do not feel sorry for what
Do not feel sorry for what you have shared...but rejoice in what you have shared... it is a part of you that has given to others. It is a gift! Everyone has opinions and remarks of advice. Remember, you are speaking to a blog....board...commuinity of those who have exposure to the unusual. As we all gather knowlege to help us understand where we are at and how we go about managing these isssues, you provide some insight to open up our box and look for all options in our care. We need your voice and we all have the power to accept it or say it is not for me. Be happy you have made a difference! Kim
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I'm sorry for what you havekimberly sue 63 said:Do not feel sorry for what
Do not feel sorry for what you have shared...but rejoice in what you have shared... it is a part of you that has given to others. It is a gift! Everyone has opinions and remarks of advice. Remember, you are speaking to a blog....board...commuinity of those who have exposure to the unusual. As we all gather knowlege to help us understand where we are at and how we go about managing these isssues, you provide some insight to open up our box and look for all options in our care. We need your voice and we all have the power to accept it or say it is not for me. Be happy you have made a difference! Kim
I'm sorry for what you have endured. I wish you might reconsider leaving our group. You are a wealth of information. Your leaving is the group's loss.
Thanks for the help and support you have given me.
Carla
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comment deletedpattysoo said:Bullied
If someone has bullied you, I am sorry. Dealing with cancer is difficult enough without maliciousness. I have commented little on your posts because, truthfully, I find them a bit too strident. Although it may not be your intention, I find that there is an element of blame suggested by your posts. By that I mean a message that had one eaten better, lived calmer, subscribed to a better lifestyle, then the cancer would never have occurred. This is very difficult to process. I refuse to blame myself for this illness, and research I've done doesn't bear witness to any single diet, lifestyle, etc that is more or less susceptible to ovarian cancer.
I learned from a wise friend long ago to temper my statements with "I think" or "I believe", or "in my opinion." I prefer that kind of honesty.
Nevertheless, I am probably in the minority on this board and do not want to salt your wounds. Why don't you stay and decide who to read and who to ignore?
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Ludicrous to Attack Anyone Trying to Help!
As a three-year survivor of a highly aggressive strain of uterine cancer, I seldom peruse "Ovarian Cancer" messages--UNLESS I am lookig for Tethys' latest posts.
Why? She is an incredibly intelligent, astute, and sophisticated researcher who knows how to integrate the best from all treatment modalities--both the traditional (chemo/radiation) and the integrative and naturopathic.
She is one of few who shares the premise of the few oncologists SUCCESSFUL in treating the most lethal cancers--including Keith Block and Nicholas Gonzalez--that cancer is not merely a tumor, but a systemic disease that gains a foothold when our terrain (body chemistry and metabolism) conspire to support its growth.
Until we ALL understand that, chemo and radiation alone will gain us, at best, a few extra months here and there, not longterm remissions.
But whatever our view of Tethys' eclectic approach to treating her own disease, it is cowardly and bullying to "attack" posts aimed at helping others to prolong their survival.
Ladies, if we see a post from someone whose views we don't share, we are free to IGNORE it.
ATTACKING a poster makes no sense--unless she is obviously and deliberately trying to harm others by disseminating what one can PROVE to be factually incorrect information.
When someone posts advice that runs counter to our cherished (or rigid) beliefs and proclivities, we will, if immature, become defensive.
"How DARE someone suggest that traditional treatments may not always be good for us? How DARE someone suggest that too many CT tests can damage our DNA? How dare anyone suggest that taking these three supplements, which I don't want to do because I'm lazy, might help me? How DARE someone suggest that this supplement might help when my own oncologist (who never had a single course in nutrition in medical school) never suggested it? How DARE someone suggest that a certain diet, which doesn't appeal to me, might improve my resistance to ovarian cancer?"
Such is the immature mindset of cyberbullies.
So Tethys, I too suggest that you take a break from the Board--and reconsider, when you've healed, sharing once again your insighrs and information.
And when you return, the rest of you here at CSN should act as vigilantes--letting bullies KNOW that their behavior is unacceptable.
Oh, and P.S.: Thank you for introducing me to a naturopath whom I was willing to fly across the nation to visit and whose phone consultations, I am convinced, have kept me in remission for another year and a half. (My cancer typically recurs within two years of diagnosis. It has now been three, and I remain NED.)
You GO, girl!
Rosey
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Well saidRoseyR said:Ludicrous to Attack Anyone Trying to Help!
As a three-year survivor of a highly aggressive strain of uterine cancer, I seldom peruse "Ovarian Cancer" messages--UNLESS I am lookig for Tethys' latest posts.
Why? She is an incredibly intelligent, astute, and sophisticated researcher who knows how to integrate the best from all treatment modalities--both the traditional (chemo/radiation) and the integrative and naturopathic.
She is one of few who shares the premise of the few oncologists SUCCESSFUL in treating the most lethal cancers--including Keith Block and Nicholas Gonzalez--that cancer is not merely a tumor, but a systemic disease that gains a foothold when our terrain (body chemistry and metabolism) conspire to support its growth.
Until we ALL understand that, chemo and radiation alone will gain us, at best, a few extra months here and there, not longterm remissions.
But whatever our view of Tethys' eclectic approach to treating her own disease, it is cowardly and bullying to "attack" posts aimed at helping others to prolong their survival.
Ladies, if we see a post from someone whose views we don't share, we are free to IGNORE it.
ATTACKING a poster makes no sense--unless she is obviously and deliberately trying to harm others by disseminating what one can PROVE to be factually incorrect information.
When someone posts advice that runs counter to our cherished (or rigid) beliefs and proclivities, we will, if immature, become defensive.
"How DARE someone suggest that traditional treatments may not always be good for us? How DARE someone suggest that too many CT tests can damage our DNA? How dare anyone suggest that taking these three supplements, which I don't want to do because I'm lazy, might help me? How DARE someone suggest that this supplement might help when my own oncologist (who never had a single course in nutrition in medical school) never suggested it? How DARE someone suggest that a certain diet, which doesn't appeal to me, might improve my resistance to ovarian cancer?"
Such is the immature mindset of cyberbullies.
So Tethys, I too suggest that you take a break from the Board--and reconsider, when you've healed, sharing once again your insighrs and information.
And when you return, the rest of you here at CSN should act as vigilantes--letting bullies KNOW that their behavior is unacceptable.
Oh, and P.S.: Thank you for introducing me to a naturopath whom I was willing to fly across the nation to visit and whose phone consultations, I am convinced, have kept me in remission for another year and a half. (My cancer typically recurs within two years of diagnosis. It has now been three, and I remain NED.)
You GO, girl!
Rosey
Thank you Rosey! Very well said. We are in the fight for our life. Different treatments, meds, supplements, etc work for different people. It is good to hear what works! I hope Tethy comes back.
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