Let's liven up the place! Sanjay Gupta MD says WEED is AOK

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  • donfoo
    donfoo Member Posts: 1,773 Member
    #22
    photo of dispensary

    Now, how much more pleasant can a pharmacy be than this?

     

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  • Duggie88
    Duggie88 Member Posts: 760 Member
    #23
    donfoo said:

    Teamsters - testing?

    Jeff,

    Just curious where Teamster stands on medical MJ? I've heard if you are in transportation then there are Fed rules which control mandatory drug testing for drivers and such which makes sense as this is clearly a public safety issue. But what about other professions not regulated by the feds?

    As to testing in general, I think most states are trying to catch up on driving while high on cannabis. Something I am learning a lot about now is the key compoenents in weed: THC and CBD. The THC offers the high while the CBD offers the relief as shown in the Sanja Gupta special. There are some newer strains that are high CBD and very low THC, offering very little "high" effect. The current drug testing looks for THC. Hopefully, they continue down this path and leave CBD out of the test. This would be wonderful for MMJ patients since the CBD can offer the necessary relief while not restricting driving.

    Hi Don

    The law is the law and everyone knows the Teamsters are very law biting (hmmmmm). Truthfully I can't recall this subject ever coming up at any high end meetings. I will be with Jim Hoffa next month and can ask him or his staff if this subject has ever been discussed. I would say it comes down to the law and being MJ can be mind boggling (THC) I truthfully don't see it being legal to drive a commercial vehicle with it in your system especially with the fact it can be detected in your system for 30 days after use. We had one guy tested hot, went through a program and wanted to take his return to work test before the 30 days expired and against our wishes did so and came up hot and lost his job for good. The THC that you mention is the big factor if they could take that out then I would be all for it being legal. Todays testing is much more accurate to the extent they can tell when you did the drug which means they can establish whether you were under the influence. But it doesn't hide the fact that you had it in your system and at this stage of the game illegal is illegal unless of course your a government official then everything is legal (sarcasum intended). An old aquaintance of mine once told me everything is legal until you get caught. He got caught and is no longer with us.

    I was subject to testing both random and post accident when I drove truck. My theory always was, as long as the company was paying me to be tested they could test me everyday twice a day and I am fine with it. I once knocked down a television cable strung along a residential street after an ice storm that evidently stretched it to the point it was hanging to low. After snapping it with the hopper on my ready mix truck I radioed dispatch and asked if they wanted me to go take a piss test stating I sure could use a soft pretzel and a soad from the store next door to the tesing site, they got pissed off and didn't want me to be tested.

    I could go on and on with more of my opinion and life experiences but I gotta smoke a joint and get to work.   JUST KIDDING!!!!! Some fed is reading this saying we got him now.

     

          Jeff

  • Duggie88
    Duggie88 Member Posts: 760 Member
    #24
    donfoo said:

    photo of dispensary

    Now, how much more pleasant can a pharmacy be than this?

     

    image

    image

    WOW

    Do they take VISA and do they have a munchy stand?

  • donfoo
    donfoo Member Posts: 1,773 Member
    #25
    Duggie88 said:

    WOW

    Do they take VISA and do they have a munchy stand?

    of course

    Hey,

    We here in California are so progressive, (I'm a closet Rep - lol). We go way out of our way to make people feel good here. So yes all major cards and debit cards are accepted at most dispensaries. This is a bonafide retail business model, so think ever present specials, discounts, even senior and cancer discounts, freebies as well as collecting points on your frequent partaker card (seriously). Prices vary from place to place as does quality so you need to be an educated shopper.

    With respect to store operations, they are surprisingly consistent and pretty darn strict. Every club has security person(s) outside the access door and will not allow you inside unless you show your valid certificate and a valid photo id like DL. Then once inside the "waiting room", another person checks your registration with that facility. Once you check out there, you are on your way to the actual dispensary where the wellness counselors (aka budtenders) assist you with your medicinal need for the day. Goods are placed into sealed bags or pulled from inventory in already prepacked, labeled, priced, and barcoded packages. A quick swipe of a card and you are out of there in minutes or even faster if you drop into the express lane since you just want a buy and no extra sales assistance. And finallay, do NOT doddle outside - be discreet and be gone!

    There are many edible options, far more than I ever imagined. Take a minute or two to pursue the menu (link below) at the dispensary with the posted images. The variety of product will blow your mind. It really pops how sophisticated and advanced the science of growing and processing has come over the past few decades and for the most part still quite under the covers for obvious reasons. That Harelequin preroll at 7 bucks seems like a tempting buy; it is one of the high CBD strains; lots of medication low on buzz. Humm......

    https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/california/san-francisco/sparc-sf?c=search

     

  • fishmanpa
    fishmanpa Member Posts: 1,227 Member
    #26
    donfoo said:

    photo of dispensary

    Now, how much more pleasant can a pharmacy be than this?

     

    image

    image

    I've perused the websites and it's mind blowing (literally) what's available. Dang! I'm already pulling out my Cheech and Chong albums!

    Hey Marcia! wanna move?! ~lol~

    "T"

     

  • CherieLW
    CherieLW Member Posts: 472
    #27
    I live in Ohio.  My position

    I live in Ohio.  My position on this is if it works/helps patients, why not use medicinal marijuana?  It's natural and I don't think there is any bad side effects that would worsen anyone's condition.  People who do not wish to smoke it could always eat it in foods.  I don't see the harm. 

  • donfoo
    donfoo Member Posts: 1,773 Member
    #28
    Marinol - prescription drug

    Marinol is a synthetic cannabis drug containing the active ingredient THC. It is prescribed for appetite stimulation and anti-nausea.

    The following link offers a lot more detail about the drug. What is VERY interesting is it is classified as a Schedule 3 Controlled Substance while the natural form is a Schedule 1 drug. This makes zero sense. The more I investigate this whole topic the more it is clear that back in the first part of the century weed got clamped down on like many freely available narcotics such as CocaCola and the variety of elixers on the market.

    http://www.rxabbvie.com/pdf/marinol_PI.pdf

    Page 12 covers drug abuse and dependence, stating there is none, different than a lot of propaganda you hear today. One can not overdose on it either. The paper states estimating a letal does at over 2 grams injected which is just not reality.

    As a anti-nausea (antiemetic) it might replace many of the other prescriptions given during chemo.

    It is interesting to note that Marinol is not specified for pain relief or sleep aid; in fact, they list drowsiness as an "adverse" effect in 65% of tests. For many, this is a good thing to use to get to sleep easier.

    Anyway for those who are in dry states, maybe ask for a Marinol prescription. For that matter how many have already used it?

     

  • robswife87
    robswife87 Member Posts: 209
    #29
    donfoo said:

    Marinol - prescription drug

    Marinol is a synthetic cannabis drug containing the active ingredient THC. It is prescribed for appetite stimulation and anti-nausea.

    The following link offers a lot more detail about the drug. What is VERY interesting is it is classified as a Schedule 3 Controlled Substance while the natural form is a Schedule 1 drug. This makes zero sense. The more I investigate this whole topic the more it is clear that back in the first part of the century weed got clamped down on like many freely available narcotics such as CocaCola and the variety of elixers on the market.

    http://www.rxabbvie.com/pdf/marinol_PI.pdf

    Page 12 covers drug abuse and dependence, stating there is none, different than a lot of propaganda you hear today. One can not overdose on it either. The paper states estimating a letal does at over 2 grams injected which is just not reality.

    As a anti-nausea (antiemetic) it might replace many of the other prescriptions given during chemo.

    It is interesting to note that Marinol is not specified for pain relief or sleep aid; in fact, they list drowsiness as an "adverse" effect in 65% of tests. For many, this is a good thing to use to get to sleep easier.

    Anyway for those who are in dry states, maybe ask for a Marinol prescription. For that matter how many have already used it?

     

    We believe

    W are huge proponents of MJ in this house. I myself never cared for it. Got to paranoid. 

    In the case of MMJ, the government needs to stepup. I have seen the results of many. 

    Rob can not get a medical card for it as he has a CDL. They would pull it in a nano second. 

    I am also a person who thinks what you do on your time should be your business. If you don't show up high or drugged up and are not using it on company time or doing it before showing up for work, your business. Why is it no cares about the guy going home from the factory sucking down a case of beer. 

    The only reason the government has not allowed it is there is no way for them to really make any money from it.

    Anyone can grow it. They can't control that.

    Hell, in my day there was like 3 different names, cinci, brown and sometimes green.

    The names now are something else, a million different names. 

    Sandy

  • alligatorpointer
    alligatorpointer Member Posts: 131
    #30
    Link to Dr. Sanjay Gupta video interview

    The documentary "Weed" that Dr. Gupta is producing should be interesting when it becomes available.  If anyone finds out where and how to watch it, please post info.  In the meantime, here is a link to an interview with Dr. Gupta...  http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/08/health/gupta-changed-mind-marijuana/index.html

  • donfoo
    donfoo Member Posts: 1,773 Member
    #31
    alligatorpointer said:

    Link to Dr. Sanjay Gupta video interview

    The documentary "Weed" that Dr. Gupta is producing should be interesting when it becomes available.  If anyone finds out where and how to watch it, please post info.  In the meantime, here is a link to an interview with Dr. Gupta...  http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/08/health/gupta-changed-mind-marijuana/index.html

    CNN show aired middle of month

    Here are a few related links, the actual show ran mid August on CNN.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/11/cnn-weed-documentary_n_3741256.html

     

    http://www.youtube.com/user/SafeAccess

     

    Interview with Sanjay Gupta

    http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/08/10/blackwell-gupta-interview.cnn.html

    What Are THC & CBD?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QSTBImrCng

     

    Unfortunately, the actual original show is not so easily available. There are copies floating around out there.

    EDIT For those who have FTP on their computer, I can get you copy of the Weed show; just PM me.

  • jackflash22
    jackflash22 Member Posts: 524 Member
    #32
    phrannie51 said:

    Montana here...

    one of "legal" states.  However, 2 years ago the Feds swooped down and nailed so many of the MMJ sellers (all doing hard time now)....I don't know where one would go to get MMJ (there used to be a shop every two blocks). 

    I'm all for it for HNC, if it doesn't have to be inhaled as smoke....vapor would be healthier.  I didn't use it.....but certainly wouldn't be against anyone else using it.

    p 

    weed

    Two years ago a strange plant grew in my garden in a plant pot. It was such a pretty ferny looking plant I fed and nourished it and it grew and grew. The leaves were like a 5 fingered hand and eventually it grew fluffy ball like growths nears the tops and close to the stem. One day one of the relative teenagers was helping in the garden and said Aunt Jackie why are you growing cannibis its illegal. I laughed and said it was a fern the birds had planted. Then other visitors made comments, when the cold weather came the leaves sagged down like tobacco leaves and went brown. I was sad to see it die but wondered how to dispose of it, I have a field out back should I burn it..no! all the neighbours would get stoned, in the end I chopped it up and stuffed it below other garden rubbish in the bin. I thought some seeds would have fallen through the patio stones and I'd have a cannibis field but nothings grown since. I have a photo of it, I tried to post it but cant get rid of two previous photos I posted how do I delete them and get my browser back.

  • fishmanpa
    fishmanpa Member Posts: 1,227 Member
    #33
    Getting Better!

    An article on what seems to be an easing of restrictions.

     

    Getting Better

     

    "T"

  • donfoo
    donfoo Member Posts: 1,773 Member
    #34
    donfoo said:

    Marinol - prescription drug

    Marinol is a synthetic cannabis drug containing the active ingredient THC. It is prescribed for appetite stimulation and anti-nausea.

    The following link offers a lot more detail about the drug. What is VERY interesting is it is classified as a Schedule 3 Controlled Substance while the natural form is a Schedule 1 drug. This makes zero sense. The more I investigate this whole topic the more it is clear that back in the first part of the century weed got clamped down on like many freely available narcotics such as CocaCola and the variety of elixers on the market.

    http://www.rxabbvie.com/pdf/marinol_PI.pdf

    Page 12 covers drug abuse and dependence, stating there is none, different than a lot of propaganda you hear today. One can not overdose on it either. The paper states estimating a letal does at over 2 grams injected which is just not reality.

    As a anti-nausea (antiemetic) it might replace many of the other prescriptions given during chemo.

    It is interesting to note that Marinol is not specified for pain relief or sleep aid; in fact, they list drowsiness as an "adverse" effect in 65% of tests. For many, this is a good thing to use to get to sleep easier.

    Anyway for those who are in dry states, maybe ask for a Marinol prescription. For that matter how many have already used it?

     

    Great article

    Thanks "T" for posting timely article. This topic has stagnated in the shadows for quite some time but I really get the sense the stars are lining up on the issue this time and once and for all the kimono is coming off.

    Form the time I have been doing a lot of detail digging, and y'll all know how much I love to get dirty digging, the faster the whole thing gets into the full light of day the better. Based on what I see how it is regulated and manged in California, it is far better to do it this way than try to stomp it out in the dark.

    Once you open it up fand allow it to come into the light, you can make rules, monitor it, tax it, and take out all the criminal element. You see pot is not some mineral that gets mined somewhere in Africa. It is grown locally by licensed growers who have strict controls on their production, the quantity and every dispensary it is distributed to. Each dispensary has to account for every bit of what they receive and sell and every bit is taxed. 

    Maybe the first round of disensaries ran it loosey goosey but I can state from personal experience ALL of the remaining ones got a serious wake-up call and decided to play by the rules after their shutdowns. Nearly all got shutdown and one-by-one the ones came back online and playing by legit rules. NONE mess around. Every one has security out front and ensures a VERY low profile. You must show credentials to enter the premises. You must then check and get validated at the reception counter. Only then can you belly up to the counter for consultation and purchase of herb products.

    I can assure you that NOONE under 18 gets in, no easier than it is someone underage to purchsae tobacco or alcohol.

    Regulated use and distribution eliminates all illegal pot growing and distribution. The only market is for illegal use and sale. Once it is all in the open, why buy illegal pot. Would it be cheaper, maybe? Would it be certified by labs as many legal dispensaries require, I doubt it. Can you find as much variety and comparison shop as a consumer, I doubt it. Do you think states, counties and cities get more revenue from legal pot sales, you bet. Do you think the overall costs of police and jails goes down by not bothering with consumer level use and sale of pot, you bet.

    The more I look into the subject, the more convinced I am there is far more good by making it freely available yet controlled and taxed instead of keeping it illegal and a great way for criminals to make money and do crimes.

    My current mission is to find out what is up with high CBD varieties. There are not nearly as much variety as the THC varieties. My hunch is, even though there is much said about the benefits of medicinal use, that has not translated into educated consumers knowing what to look and ask for. Now, many more people know there are two main active chemicals in pot - THC and CBD. That is a big step forward as those seeking medicinal use can start searching and requesting more high CBD strains. And in our capitalistic system, you ask and you shall receive as long there is profit to be made.

    I really think in a couple years, there will clearly be a full complement of strains formulated for not just medicinal use in general but various substrains and blends that work better for certain medical conditions and use than others. Stay tuned!

     

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