Sugar?

herdizziness said:

Actually you never asked

But here you go:

http://www.anthc.org/chs/epicenter/upload/CRCSP_ANMC_brochure.pdf

That's from our Alaskan Native hospital in Anchorage, if you google you will find much more on it. 

This brochure actually says "and Alaska Natives almost twice as much as the general population"

in getting colorectal cancer.  Just google a bit more and you will see more of the same, from the cancer society

 etc, yes they

still do NOT eat the carbs others do, we still ate the way of the elders, no sweets, our milk 

consisted of powdered MilkMan milk, wild fruit gotten off the land, same for greens.  You

may like to tell me how we ate, but I lived it.  

When you actually live that life and see what we ate then you get to give me informed facts, I

lived it, many still live it, even some city dwellers and by the way not many of us believe white

men from those era's, plenty of lies and plenty of false tales,(especially in the 1800 and early 1900's)

when the priests came and children were taken away, women held hostage so the men would

go fur hunting for the Russians, diseases brought  by them killing off our peoples, along with the raping

of the women and children and the shooting deaths of our men.

My mother, my grandmother, my aunt's and uncles and other of our people were sitting in

"native only" sections in the back top of theaters, and not allowed in many stores or shops 

"no natives, no dogs" were the motto's in many businesses even until the late. 50's and 60's my

birth mother sent to Holy Cross, not allowed to speak her language, our people interned and taken

from their islands during World War II.

Our  people have been treated poorly since the Russians invaded our land and when the U.S. took

over from the Russians. I'm sure the Inuits trusted the "whites". (Sarcasm there). And various tribes

the Tlingits,, Aleuts, Eskimos, and many other, have diets varying from each other depending on the 

region they live in, Artic, Aluetian Islands, Southeastern, etc., all regions are different.  For instance my people

didnt hunt whales and eat blubber or use seal oil for eating fish but other Northern regions do.

and yes it sucks to be in the highest rate of colorectal cancer race, but unfortunately that's  the

truth, and you can keep saying it isn't so, but the facts prove we are,  again unfortunately we as a

race have the highest chance of getting colorectal cancer, again unfortunately.

And that's the history lesson for today.

Winter Marie

 

 

This debacle is why some of us gave up and left. You can't tell "them" anything; they don't hear as well as they talk.

Catch you on the PM side, Marie... good luck here!

John

manwithnoname said:

I did ask

but lets not drag that thread up.

you said "Alaskan Natives have the highest colonrectal rate per capita of all races"

You show a health brochure that says they have a higher level than Canadians 

And actualy the rate only increased after 1989.

"The ranking of cancer incidence was different in Inuit Nunangat compared to the rest of Canada (19). For example, following lung cancer, cancers of the prostate and breast were the most frequent cancers for the population in the rest of Canada, whereas these cancers ranked third behind lung and colorectal cancers in Inuit Nunangat. Our results did show that residents of Inuit Nunangat were at substantially elevated risk for cancers that tend to become more prevalent in economically developing countries (20) specifically lung, bronchus, and colorectal cancers compared to the rest of Canada. Incidence and mortality for these cancers have been attributed to changes in population health behaviours including increased smoking, changes to dietary patterns and less physical activity (20). Smoking and diet are important risk factors for many types of cancers"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3417551/?report=classic

It's also interesting that colorectal rocketed at 1989 after being very steady, what happened in 1989?

Proof here; https://www.itk.ca/sites/default/files/private/factsheet-seriesFINAL2.pdf

 

janderson1964 said:

Typical oncologist answer.

Typical oncologist answer.

It infuriates me hear doctors tell patients diet doesn't matter or shrug it off.  During my wife's illness, and now mine, I found quite a lot of research which points to the benefits of a good diet (and moderate exercise).  The typical doctor, whether oncologist or not, is not trained in nutirtion, and generally has at best little more knowledge in this area than a layman.  

any physicians who lends the authority of their professional position to the notion that diet does not matter should have their license to practice revoked!!   

renw said:

1989? Didn't McDonalds open

1989? Didn't McDonalds open up a chain of restaurants in Alaska that year?

Your ignorance is showing.

herdizziness said:

Kenny

I haven't eaten cake in a long time, years, but had a hankering for pineapple upside and baked it, it turned out delicious, but now I'm stuck with a lot of left over cake, you are more then welcome to a slice or two!!

Winter Marie

By jingle, you made the cake, you deserve to have some of it. If I lived closer, I'd be over to enjoy a slice or two with you! Oh, and I'd want soda available, too!

Judy

wawaju04976 said:

By jingle, you made the cake,

By jingle, you made the cake, you deserve to have some of it. If I lived closer, I'd be over to enjoy a slice or two with you! Oh, and I'd want soda available, too!

Judy

For what it's worth, I think all the hotdogs we ate as kids in the 60s and 70s might have been a factor in many of us getting colon and rectal cancer. The hotdog was the Gen X chicken nugget. We ate them as babies, as finger food, and who knows what poisons were in them then.  Lunch meat too, especially bologna.  How many people in their 40s are on this board with cancer???

- Karin

herdizziness said:

Judy

Anytime you're in this area, cake and soda will be on hand!

Winter Marie

bake another one.

lilacbrroller said:

Hotdogs

For what it's worth, I think all the hotdogs we ate as kids in the 60s and 70s might have been a factor in many of us getting colon and rectal cancer. The hotdog was the Gen X chicken nugget. We ate them as babies, as finger food, and who knows what poisons were in them then.  Lunch meat too, especially bologna.  How many people in their 40s are on this board with cancer???

- Karin

used to drive me crazy because we never got Doritos and Twinkies like the other kids.  Natural peanut butter...bleh!  I wanted Skippy on white bread (also a no-no).  I suspect living on top of a coal mine had more to do with my cancer (as well as that of three of my sibs), but everyone is different.  Given the complexity of the disease, it wouldn't surprise me if there were many different causes, intertwining to form the perfect storm that is cancer.  

herdizziness said:

Judy

Anytime you're in this area, cake and soda will be on hand!

Winter Marie

Thanks a lot for the "sweet" comments about cake and soda.  Reading what you posted, along with other posts, asking for some cake made me just giggle!  I wish there were more happy/funny post and less "I'm right/you're wrong" comments posted.  

Whatever makes someone feel a bit in control of their life, let them do it.  What works for one may not work for another, on any level.  Cancer is a crap shoot, you can do everything right and pass on, or just do whatever you want and live for years.  Be happy for now, listen without judgement, and be kind to others.

I wish everyone well, no matter how you seek it.