Interventional Radiology for liver mets

Bluejuniata
Bluejuniata Member Posts: 20
in Colorectal Cancer #1

Can anybody share their experience with having Interventional Radiology done on their liver mets? Thanks.

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  • jasminsaba
    jasminsaba Member Posts: 157 Member
    #2
    Suggestion ...

    you can visit http://www.beatlivertumors.org/ for more information and personal stories ... there are resources available for those newly diagnosed. I know they can pair you with someone with a similar diagnosis who can share more about treamtnent experiences from a patient's perspective.

    Good luck!

  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    #3
    I HAVE HAD 7 TACE PROCEDURES, so far so good.

    got the 8th on 13th august, i have had peritoneum, liver, lymph nodes and lung taced.

    so far so good, i like it.

    its all on my blog, google peter trayhurn. dr vogel is my tace doctor, i think a world leader and pioneer.

    the off label and experimental nature of the therapies i also like, its working well so far, i might be ned again, after second recurrence, but you never really know this ned suff is perplexing, but i am very very grateful.

    good luck with your tace, for whats its worth i did intraday cea and full cancer markers before and after tace combined with ipt and i noticed a considerable drop in white and and red blood cell counts, so epo and neulasta might be an option straight after tace. i spent a week on the beach relaxing in the sun, to rebuild blood counts.

    goodluck

  • renw
    renw Member Posts: 282 Member
    #4
    Interventional radiology can

    Interventional radiology can mean several things. What specific treatment are you getting?

    If it is radiation like y90 I personally would stay away from this. If tace or RFA that i see no probs, in fact I have my fourth tace next month.

  • Bluejuniata
    Bluejuniata Member Posts: 20
    #5
    jasminsaba said:

    Suggestion ...

    you can visit http://www.beatlivertumors.org/ for more information and personal stories ... there are resources available for those newly diagnosed. I know they can pair you with someone with a similar diagnosis who can share more about treamtnent experiences from a patient's perspective.

    Good luck!

    IR question

    Thank you, I will check this out! 

  • Bluejuniata
    Bluejuniata Member Posts: 20
    #6
    pete43lost_at_sea said:

    I HAVE HAD 7 TACE PROCEDURES, so far so good.

    got the 8th on 13th august, i have had peritoneum, liver, lymph nodes and lung taced.

    so far so good, i like it.

    its all on my blog, google peter trayhurn. dr vogel is my tace doctor, i think a world leader and pioneer.

    the off label and experimental nature of the therapies i also like, its working well so far, i might be ned again, after second recurrence, but you never really know this ned suff is perplexing, but i am very very grateful.

    good luck with your tace, for whats its worth i did intraday cea and full cancer markers before and after tace combined with ipt and i noticed a considerable drop in white and and red blood cell counts, so epo and neulasta might be an option straight after tace. i spent a week on the beach relaxing in the sun, to rebuild blood counts.

    goodluck

    IR question

    Hi,

    Thanks for responding...a lot of your abbreviations are " greek" to me.:)  They are suggesting the Y90 sheres and if I am not a good candidate for that after the trial run, then they are suggesting IR chemo. Any personal feedback? Thanks so much for taking the tim?

  • Bluejuniata
    Bluejuniata Member Posts: 20
    #7
    renw said:

    Interventional radiology can

    Interventional radiology can mean several things. What specific treatment are you getting?

    If it is radiation like y90 I personally would stay away from this. If tace or RFA that i see no probs, in fact I have my fourth tace next month.

    IR question.

    Hi,

    Thanks for taking the time to respond, means a lot.

    Why not the Y90... because that is what they are suggesting and if I am not a candidate after the trial run, they ate suggesting the cheno IR. Thoughts? Thanks. 

  • renw
    renw Member Posts: 282 Member
    #8
    Bluejuniata said:

    IR question.

    Hi,

    Thanks for taking the time to respond, means a lot.

    Why not the Y90... because that is what they are suggesting and if I am not a candidate after the trial run, they ate suggesting the cheno IR. Thoughts? Thanks. 

    I was facing the same

    I was facing the same decision Y90 or TACE. Statistically Y90 is more effective. TACE is much safer. About 3% chance of not surviving the Y90 treatment. And from the research I did, radiation is more likely to result in more mutations and the formation of new cancers. This put me off mostly and opt for tace and keep sirt in reserve.

    My result with tace has not been conclusive thus far, so not sure whether I made the right decisions, but other people do get good results quickly. 

  • Bluejuniata
    Bluejuniata Member Posts: 20
    #9
    renw said:

    I was facing the same

    I was facing the same decision Y90 or TACE. Statistically Y90 is more effective. TACE is much safer. About 3% chance of not surviving the Y90 treatment. And from the research I did, radiation is more likely to result in more mutations and the formation of new cancers. This put me off mostly and opt for tace and keep sirt in reserve.

    My result with tace has not been conclusive thus far, so not sure whether I made the right decisions, but other people do get good results quickly. 

    IR

    Thank you so much for your feedback, I really appreciate it. Yeah, the formation of new cancers is not good lthough I feel like I already glow from all previous scans and radiation. I see there is a " role call" so I guess I'll go lay down my story there. Although I joined awhile ago, I rarely visited this site but am feeling like it is a good place to land now. Thanks again. 

  • joemetz
    joemetz Member Posts: 493
    #10
    renw said:

    Interventional radiology can

    Interventional radiology can mean several things. What specific treatment are you getting?

    If it is radiation like y90 I personally would stay away from this. If tace or RFA that i see no probs, in fact I have my fourth tace next month.

    "I would personally stay away from this"

    Just curious on your note on y90.

    I saw that you'd personally stay away from this... I have had the treatment, and we're not seeing the results that many others "supposidely" have seen.  I would love to hear your feedback. (and yes, I can handle anything you say... not trying to start anything, just curious as to your thoughts) As, this entire battle comes down to making  choices based on what other people say.

    And, if we can help the next person... let's talk about it. 

    (sorry to bomb in on this string, but it's a curous topic. to me and others.

     

     

  • renw
    renw Member Posts: 282 Member
    #11
    joemetz said:

    "I would personally stay away from this"

    Just curious on your note on y90.

    I saw that you'd personally stay away from this... I have had the treatment, and we're not seeing the results that many others "supposidely" have seen.  I would love to hear your feedback. (and yes, I can handle anything you say... not trying to start anything, just curious as to your thoughts) As, this entire battle comes down to making  choices based on what other people say.

    And, if we can help the next person... let's talk about it. 

    (sorry to bomb in on this string, but it's a curous topic. to me and others.

     

     

    I believe in the Warburg

    I believe in the Warburg theory on cancer in that cancer is a metabolic not a genetic disease. In this theory it is believed that damaged mitochondria is the reason for the cancer and any genetic mutation is just a side effect. Its a brilliant theory with tons of evidence. Radiation is know to also damage mitochondria, and this would then give rise to new cancers. Hence my dislike for radiation treatments in general.

    Over time as result of various treatments that damage DNA, eg oxaliplatin being one, cancer cells express additional repair mechanisms. Once that happens, the cancer simply repairs the DNA damage caused. This is what eventually leads to oxaliplatin losing its efficacy. Radiation also damages DNA and the same repair mechanism or lack off, determines the effectivness of the treatment. 

  • Bluejuniata
    Bluejuniata Member Posts: 20
    #12
    joemetz said:

    "I would personally stay away from this"

    Just curious on your note on y90.

    I saw that you'd personally stay away from this... I have had the treatment, and we're not seeing the results that many others "supposidely" have seen.  I would love to hear your feedback. (and yes, I can handle anything you say... not trying to start anything, just curious as to your thoughts) As, this entire battle comes down to making  choices based on what other people say.

    And, if we can help the next person... let's talk about it. 

    (sorry to bomb in on this string, but it's a curous topic. to me and others.

     

     

    'bombing in'

    Hey, the more, the merrier I say..epecially in this instance! So, if the Y 90 is not working as great or you, are they trying chemo emb. now or?  Did the spheres work at all or just never?  I also spoke to both my surgical oncologist and my IR Dr. and told them I was on a ketogenic diet and to my surprise both of them said just because there is not enough data to back it up yet or has not been studied enough, does not mean it does not work/ help. My oncologist tells me to drink some wine and have a cookie as he believes it makes no difference. I believe differently. Thoughts? Thanks.

  • coloCan
    coloCan Member Posts: 1,944 Member
    #13
    Bluejuniata said:

    'bombing in'

    Hey, the more, the merrier I say..epecially in this instance! So, if the Y 90 is not working as great or you, are they trying chemo emb. now or?  Did the spheres work at all or just never?  I also spoke to both my surgical oncologist and my IR Dr. and told them I was on a ketogenic diet and to my surprise both of them said just because there is not enough data to back it up yet or has not been studied enough, does not mean it does not work/ help. My oncologist tells me to drink some wine and have a cookie as he believes it makes no difference. I believe differently. Thoughts? Thanks.

    As for SIRT(Y90): you might want to show this to your docs

    http://jnm.snmjournals.org/content/54/8/1202.abstract

    as they should understand this

     

    PS:somewhat related

    www.healthcanal.com/cancers/41416-microwaves-help-treat-patient-s-liver-tumors.html

     

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