non pill probiotics; kefir at home

LaCh
LaCh Member Posts: 557

for anyone interested in exploring growing their own kefir, you can check out this description (see link below); this is just one of many internet resources. I've been growing my own kefir for several weeks and am much happier with the result (taste, quality, cost, ease of doing it) than with buying it, plus, I personally don't thing we evolved to be able to benefit from pills and am not sure that we do. The last is just my opinion. The info about kefir (from the link) isn't my opinion.  It's just info on kefir.  http://chriskresser.com/kefir-the-not-quite-paleo-superfood

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  • NYinTX
    NYinTX Member Posts: 64
    kefir

    thanks for post -- I live on the stuff but am too lazy to actually do it myself. But maybe I will now. How do u get the strawberries and blueberries into kefir at home?

  • Marynb
    Marynb Member Posts: 1,118
    LaCh
    I know how good kefir is for us, but it is just one of those foods that turns my stomach. I have tried several times. Thanks for posting this though! I do think in order to stay healthy the focus has to be eating clean foods and, for the most part, that means making foods at home to avoid chemicals.
  • LaCh
    LaCh Member Posts: 557
    NYinTX said:

    kefir

    thanks for post -- I live on the stuff but am too lazy to actually do it myself. But maybe I will now. How do u get the strawberries and blueberries into kefir at home?

    NY in Tx

    Once the grains (they're more like pea-sized, soft blobs) are stablized (which took about 10 days and entails simply feeding them milk without stopping; cows, goats, sheep, any milk) there's nothing to do except...keep doing it.  I'll tell you what I do and after about about 5 weeks now, the grains are plump, happy, healthy and producing delicious kefir that's clearly fermented and full of probiotics because it's 1) tart 2) fizzy, and 3) thick.  I add a cup of goat milk to the grains, which are in a glass mason jar (always use glass). I let it ferment for 12 hours, which simply means covering it with a handkercheif and a rubberband and letting it sit. I do it for 12 hours because I suffer from constipation and the probiotics that grow in 12 hours help with that. If you tend towards diarrhea, you let it ferment for 24-36 hours because the kefir that's produced in that period of time helps with THAT. To add strawberries or blueberries, you just add them. Put them in, that's all.  The kefir is thick but not thick enough to spoon, so I drink it. If you like tart things, you'll find it to be delicious. If not, add something sweet, like the berries or stevia. You can blend the berries if you want and it'd be a smoothie.  I love the tart taste so I add nothing. The advantage to homemade kefir over store-bought is that the probiotics are many more times what you find in a pill or capsule and of a greater variety; you're drinking live, living fermented bacteria and in greater quantities that you can buy in pill form. The variables in preparation are the ambient room temperature and the amount of milk that you use so I expect that my 12 hour ferment may be a bit shorter during the summer. I ferment a cup in the morning to drink before I go to sleep and refill the jar for the morning cup.  In the morning, I drink the batch I prepared the night before and refill the jar. It took a while for the grains to wake up and stablize but now that they have, I'm thinking of dividing them into two different jars because they've multiplied so much.  This is as easy or as difficult as pouring milk into a jar.  That's what you do; that's ALL that you do. Then, when you're ready to drink it, you strain it so that the liquid goes into the mug and the grains are held back, then you put them back into the jar and add the milk.  It doesn't get easier than that.   If you want to try it you can google places that sell milk kefir grains (there are water kefir grains too so make sure you google what you want). If you want the link to the place where I bought mine, ask, and I'll post it.  My opinon--just my opinion--is that when you buy kefir, even health food kefir, you have no idea what kind of probiotics have gone in, HOW they've gone in (was it fermented or simply added as a powder) and how many survived to the point that you ingest it?  With the kefir you prepare, you know what's gone in because you're the one that put it there and you know that it survived because it's fermented when you drink it.   

  • mp327
    mp327 Member Posts: 4,440 Member
    Marynb said:

    LaCh
    I know how good kefir is for us, but it is just one of those foods that turns my stomach. I have tried several times. Thanks for posting this though! I do think in order to stay healthy the focus has to be eating clean foods and, for the most part, that means making foods at home to avoid chemicals.

    kefir

    Just can't do it!  I just recently got where I could stomach Greek yogurt. 

  • LaCh
    LaCh Member Posts: 557
    mp327 said:

    kefir

    Just can't do it!  I just recently got where I could stomach Greek yogurt. 

    it was meant for those

    who were interested. 

  • NYinTX
    NYinTX Member Posts: 64
    LaCh said:

    NY in Tx

    Once the grains (they're more like pea-sized, soft blobs) are stablized (which took about 10 days and entails simply feeding them milk without stopping; cows, goats, sheep, any milk) there's nothing to do except...keep doing it.  I'll tell you what I do and after about about 5 weeks now, the grains are plump, happy, healthy and producing delicious kefir that's clearly fermented and full of probiotics because it's 1) tart 2) fizzy, and 3) thick.  I add a cup of goat milk to the grains, which are in a glass mason jar (always use glass). I let it ferment for 12 hours, which simply means covering it with a handkercheif and a rubberband and letting it sit. I do it for 12 hours because I suffer from constipation and the probiotics that grow in 12 hours help with that. If you tend towards diarrhea, you let it ferment for 24-36 hours because the kefir that's produced in that period of time helps with THAT. To add strawberries or blueberries, you just add them. Put them in, that's all.  The kefir is thick but not thick enough to spoon, so I drink it. If you like tart things, you'll find it to be delicious. If not, add something sweet, like the berries or stevia. You can blend the berries if you want and it'd be a smoothie.  I love the tart taste so I add nothing. The advantage to homemade kefir over store-bought is that the probiotics are many more times what you find in a pill or capsule and of a greater variety; you're drinking live, living fermented bacteria and in greater quantities that you can buy in pill form. The variables in preparation are the ambient room temperature and the amount of milk that you use so I expect that my 12 hour ferment may be a bit shorter during the summer. I ferment a cup in the morning to drink before I go to sleep and refill the jar for the morning cup.  In the morning, I drink the batch I prepared the night before and refill the jar. It took a while for the grains to wake up and stablize but now that they have, I'm thinking of dividing them into two different jars because they've multiplied so much.  This is as easy or as difficult as pouring milk into a jar.  That's what you do; that's ALL that you do. Then, when you're ready to drink it, you strain it so that the liquid goes into the mug and the grains are held back, then you put them back into the jar and add the milk.  It doesn't get easier than that.   If you want to try it you can google places that sell milk kefir grains (there are water kefir grains too so make sure you google what you want). If you want the link to the place where I bought mine, ask, and I'll post it.  My opinon--just my opinion--is that when you buy kefir, even health food kefir, you have no idea what kind of probiotics have gone in, HOW they've gone in (was it fermented or simply added as a powder) and how many survived to the point that you ingest it?  With the kefir you prepare, you know what's gone in because you're the one that put it there and you know that it survived because it's fermented when you drink it.   

    LaCH mmmmmmmmmmm

    I have printed your instructions and hung on refrigerator....so you make it fresh daily?? I am sooo lazy but it sure beats Lifeway or $5.00/qt organic goat kefir at Whole Foods, or $40/month probiotic supplements....thanks. I love tart, I love goat milk, goat cheese, any cheese for that matter, and havetook bottles of kefor with me on century bike rides ehen I was still doing these 2 years ago....now to get serious about managing my own health with my own kefir. THank you again. No wonder the Caucasian mountain folk live >140 yrs, but that is not one of my remaining goals....another day is good enough. 

  • LaCh
    LaCh Member Posts: 557
    NYinTX said:

    LaCH mmmmmmmmmmm

    I have printed your instructions and hung on refrigerator....so you make it fresh daily?? I am sooo lazy but it sure beats Lifeway or $5.00/qt organic goat kefir at Whole Foods, or $40/month probiotic supplements....thanks. I love tart, I love goat milk, goat cheese, any cheese for that matter, and havetook bottles of kefor with me on century bike rides ehen I was still doing these 2 years ago....now to get serious about managing my own health with my own kefir. THank you again. No wonder the Caucasian mountain folk live >140 yrs, but that is not one of my remaining goals....another day is good enough. 

    NYinTX

    Try it; there's nothing to lose. 

  • AZANNIE
    AZANNIE Member Posts: 445 Member
    mp327 said:

    kefir

    Just can't do it!  I just recently got where I could stomach Greek yogurt. 

    mp327

    Try Oikos greek yogurt. It's creamy - like eating pudding. The banana cream is yummy. There's also key lime and orange cream. However, it shows on the label that it contains active cultures but doesn't say what kind. Activia greek yogurt is pretty good and the active cultures are listed on the label.

    Ann

  • mp327
    mp327 Member Posts: 4,440 Member
    AZANNIE said:

    mp327

    Try Oikos greek yogurt. It's creamy - like eating pudding. The banana cream is yummy. There's also key lime and orange cream. However, it shows on the label that it contains active cultures but doesn't say what kind. Activia greek yogurt is pretty good and the active cultures are listed on the label.

    Ann

    Ann

    I actually eat Fage plain zero fat yogurt.  It is quite good, especially if I add a little honey and cinnamon.  I have tried to stay away from the flavored ones, as they seem to have a lot of carbs/sugar.  However, you're right, they're quite tasty!  I am also making smoothies in my Magic Bullet (which was recommended here and I love!) with yogurt, a little fruit, and soy milk.  Yum!

  • NYinTX
    NYinTX Member Posts: 64
    LaCh said:

    NYinTX

    Try it; there's nothing to lose. 

    kefir

    I'm on it        Foot in Mouth