Update on the HPV vaccine

mp327
mp327 Member Posts: 4,440 Member
in Anal Cancer #1

Very interesting.

http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2013/05/12/941075/fda-committee-considers-gardasil-anal-cancer

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  • Marynb
    Marynb Member Posts: 1,118
    #2
    Vaccine
    Thanks for posting this.
  • mp327
    mp327 Member Posts: 4,440 Member
    #3
    Marynb said:

    Vaccine
    Thanks for posting this.

    More Interesting Info

    http://womensvoicesforchange.org/hpv-and-anal-cancer-in-older-women-risk-and-prevention.htm

  • sephie
    sephie Member Posts: 650 Member
    #4
    mp327 said:

    More Interesting Info

    http://womensvoicesforchange.org/hpv-and-anal-cancer-in-older-women-risk-and-prevention.htm

    great article

    thanks.... hopefully people will ask for anal paps and docs will learn how to do them....we all could have used more knowledge ....my best friend had both of her daughters get the vaccine after my dx... that is one step..... now , hopefully , docs will educate themselves.... my proctologist missed mine for almost a year and he did about  8 anoscopes on me and kept saying it is not cancer ... he never took biopsy... the pain while he was doing the DRE's was excruciating but i just thought that was the way it was with hemmy's....hopefully he is more aware now.... i have not spoken to him since i left and went to the colorectal doc who knew what it was .....   thx for always sending us great articles....    sephie

  • Marynb
    Marynb Member Posts: 1,118
    #5
    mp327 said:

    More Interesting Info

    http://womensvoicesforchange.org/hpv-and-anal-cancer-in-older-women-risk-and-prevention.htm

    Article and question re. Men
    Martha, thanks for posting this. I wonder what the risk to straight men is? I am certain that if HPV caused my cancer, it was from exposure by my ex. husband who had been unfaithful. I say this because I was with him exclusively and it is the only possibility. Does this mean that he may be at risk?
  • mxperry220
    mxperry220 Member Posts: 496 Member
    #6
    Marynb said:

    Article and question re. Men
    Martha, thanks for posting this. I wonder what the risk to straight men is? I am certain that if HPV caused my cancer, it was from exposure by my ex. husband who had been unfaithful. I say this because I was with him exclusively and it is the only possibility. Does this mean that he may be at risk?

    AT Risk

    One of the risks of anal cancer is  a person who has sex with multiple partners-gay or straight.  In your husband's case it sounds like he may be at risk.

    Mike

  • Marynb
    Marynb Member Posts: 1,118
    #7
    mxperry220 said:

    AT Risk

    One of the risks of anal cancer is  a person who has sex with multiple partners-gay or straight.  In your husband's case it sounds like he may be at risk.

    Mike

    Mike
    So, should I advise him that he should have a test? I know that HPV causes several different cancers in women, but in men is it only anal cancer?
  • mp327
    mp327 Member Posts: 4,440 Member
    #8
    Marynb said:

    Mike
    So, should I advise him that he should have a test? I know that HPV causes several different cancers in women, but in men is it only anal cancer?

    Marynb

    To my knowledge, there is no test for HPV in men, with perhaps the exception of an anal pap smear.  That test, however, is not widely done and usually only recommended for men in the MSM group. 

  • Marynb
    Marynb Member Posts: 1,118
    #9
    mp327 said:

    Marynb

    To my knowledge, there is no test for HPV in men, with perhaps the exception of an anal pap smear.  That test, however, is not widely done and usually only recommended for men in the MSM group. 

    Martha
    Which leaves me wondering how many women he may have invected with hpv and if it is possible to know whether a man is a carrier of the virus for a long period of time. Bottom line, I guess there is nothing I can do about it.
  • jena58
    jena58 Member Posts: 19
    #10
    Marynb said:

    Martha
    Which leaves me wondering how many women he may have invected with hpv and if it is possible to know whether a man is a carrier of the virus for a long period of time. Bottom line, I guess there is nothing I can do about it.

    Sv40 virus or hpv?

    Just on the subject of hpv, has anyone else heard of the sv40 virus? Years ago I started going to a naturopath. Every thing he told me I had- bug, virus, bacteria etc i would go to the doctor to be tested ( I was a bit of a skeptic) lo and behold he was spot on with everything. Since then I see him regularly and a keeps me in pretty good shape. When I found out I had cancer he was my first port of call to see what he could do to help me, one of his test showed I was positive for sv40 virus. I went home and looked it up. This is what I learned.  back in the 50's and 60's the polio vaccination, which is made from the liver of rhesus monkeys, was contaminated by this virus. In the meantime anyone who was vaccinated around that time was contaminated.

    The sv40 virus suppresses a protein, p53.

    p53 controls the protein p16 

    p16 inhibits CDK4 which is a tumor suppressor. 

    so, when sv40 knocks out p53, p16 runs amok inhibiting the CDK 4 tumor suppressor and we have an over expression of p16

    hpv positive tests are "p16 positive" ......... So is sv40!!!

    i just wonder how many people have been told they are hpv positive when maybe they just had a contaminated polio vaccine! 

    By the way it's something that the medical fraternity are either ignorant of or for political reasons won't admit to. I can understand this, imagine the law suits!!!!!!!

    Does anyone else know anything about this?

     

  • mp327
    mp327 Member Posts: 4,440 Member
    #11
    jena58 said:

    Sv40 virus or hpv?

    Just on the subject of hpv, has anyone else heard of the sv40 virus? Years ago I started going to a naturopath. Every thing he told me I had- bug, virus, bacteria etc i would go to the doctor to be tested ( I was a bit of a skeptic) lo and behold he was spot on with everything. Since then I see him regularly and a keeps me in pretty good shape. When I found out I had cancer he was my first port of call to see what he could do to help me, one of his test showed I was positive for sv40 virus. I went home and looked it up. This is what I learned.  back in the 50's and 60's the polio vaccination, which is made from the liver of rhesus monkeys, was contaminated by this virus. In the meantime anyone who was vaccinated around that time was contaminated.

    The sv40 virus suppresses a protein, p53.

    p53 controls the protein p16 

    p16 inhibits CDK4 which is a tumor suppressor. 

    so, when sv40 knocks out p53, p16 runs amok inhibiting the CDK 4 tumor suppressor and we have an over expression of p16

    hpv positive tests are "p16 positive" ......... So is sv40!!!

    i just wonder how many people have been told they are hpv positive when maybe they just had a contaminated polio vaccine! 

    By the way it's something that the medical fraternity are either ignorant of or for political reasons won't admit to. I can understand this, imagine the law suits!!!!!!!

    Does anyone else know anything about this?

     

    jena58

    I've never heard of this, but it certainly is interesting!  I'll have to do some research.  Most of us, I think, are at the age where we probably were given the polio vaccine back in the 50's and 60's.  It would not be hard to believe that if there were effects showing up from it years later that there would be attempts to keep that info from the general public.  Thanks for sharing this info.

  • Marynb
    Marynb Member Posts: 1,118
    #12
    jena58 said:

    Sv40 virus or hpv?

    Just on the subject of hpv, has anyone else heard of the sv40 virus? Years ago I started going to a naturopath. Every thing he told me I had- bug, virus, bacteria etc i would go to the doctor to be tested ( I was a bit of a skeptic) lo and behold he was spot on with everything. Since then I see him regularly and a keeps me in pretty good shape. When I found out I had cancer he was my first port of call to see what he could do to help me, one of his test showed I was positive for sv40 virus. I went home and looked it up. This is what I learned.  back in the 50's and 60's the polio vaccination, which is made from the liver of rhesus monkeys, was contaminated by this virus. In the meantime anyone who was vaccinated around that time was contaminated.

    The sv40 virus suppresses a protein, p53.

    p53 controls the protein p16 

    p16 inhibits CDK4 which is a tumor suppressor. 

    so, when sv40 knocks out p53, p16 runs amok inhibiting the CDK 4 tumor suppressor and we have an over expression of p16

    hpv positive tests are "p16 positive" ......... So is sv40!!!

    i just wonder how many people have been told they are hpv positive when maybe they just had a contaminated polio vaccine! 

    By the way it's something that the medical fraternity are either ignorant of or for political reasons won't admit to. I can understand this, imagine the law suits!!!!!!!

    Does anyone else know anything about this?

     

    Jena
    I got the vaccine in the 50's and remember it well. I also had friends who were struck with polio. This is interesting and may explain why 1/3 of my high school class died before they reached 60?
  • RoseC
    RoseC Member Posts: 559
    #13
    jena58 said:

    Sv40 virus or hpv?

    Just on the subject of hpv, has anyone else heard of the sv40 virus? Years ago I started going to a naturopath. Every thing he told me I had- bug, virus, bacteria etc i would go to the doctor to be tested ( I was a bit of a skeptic) lo and behold he was spot on with everything. Since then I see him regularly and a keeps me in pretty good shape. When I found out I had cancer he was my first port of call to see what he could do to help me, one of his test showed I was positive for sv40 virus. I went home and looked it up. This is what I learned.  back in the 50's and 60's the polio vaccination, which is made from the liver of rhesus monkeys, was contaminated by this virus. In the meantime anyone who was vaccinated around that time was contaminated.

    The sv40 virus suppresses a protein, p53.

    p53 controls the protein p16 

    p16 inhibits CDK4 which is a tumor suppressor. 

    so, when sv40 knocks out p53, p16 runs amok inhibiting the CDK 4 tumor suppressor and we have an over expression of p16

    hpv positive tests are "p16 positive" ......... So is sv40!!!

    i just wonder how many people have been told they are hpv positive when maybe they just had a contaminated polio vaccine! 

    By the way it's something that the medical fraternity are either ignorant of or for political reasons won't admit to. I can understand this, imagine the law suits!!!!!!!

    Does anyone else know anything about this?

     

    That is very, very

    That is very, very interesting Jena58 - thanks for the info. Very interesting...

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