unempathitic nurse, really rude

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  • Marynb
    Marynb Member Posts: 1,118
    #22
    RoseC said:

    That's not really too cool.

    That's not really too cool. Everyone has a bad day, nurses included. But everyone has their own opinion, and that's ok.

    RoseC
    I usually agree with you, but not on this one. This is not about forgiveness. We can all choose to suffer fools gladly if we wish. Yes, everyone has a bad day, but a professional does not bring it to work. You are assuming this is a one time occurrrence. I guess if everyone made that assumption there would be a lot of cancer patients treated very poorly by this woman. No excuses! Not for professionals.
  • LaCh
    LaCh Member Posts: 557
    #23
    Marynb said:

    LaCh
    I just may do that. My cat doesn't love the idea, she is too old and set in her ways! Hate to leave her because she is so attached to me. We will see.

    traveling

    yeah, I sure get that.  I've got my dog. I wouldn't love him any more if he carried my DNA but getting away does get a bit complicated.

  • 7243
    7243 Member Posts: 249 Member
    #24
    RoseC said:

    That's not really too cool.

    That's not really too cool. Everyone has a bad day, nurses included. But everyone has their own opinion, and that's ok.

    You bet!

    one of the very best aspects about this site is we can speak our opinion and we don't always agree!  And you're absolutely right, that's totally ok!  Thanks for your opinions RoseC!   

  • mp327
    mp327 Member Posts: 4,440 Member
    #25
    LaCh said:

    Marynb

    Hey Marynb,

    Thanks for asking, I'm doing pretty good, feeling pretty good, working out at the gym now and feeling good.  The fatigue is still a problem but better than it was, and seems to respond to the accupuncture and working out (sleeping helps too but I've had insomnia for 10 years and that's not going away any time soon). I'm eating anything that I want but in small amounts due to some digestive issues that I think are unrelated to the cancer. My gastroenterologist, a true angel who rolled off a cloud, has told me that she's going to "have the talk" with me next week when I see her about having a PET scan and I told her to "you go for it," but that a PET scan isn't in my future. In any case, the biposies that I've told her she's welcome to do to her heart's content are for her benefit, not mine, since I'm sure that the tumor's gone.  I've not quite had the energy to get to Central Park yet (kind of silly since I'm going to the gym to work out and Central Park is just 15 minutes from my house, but still, I've not been yet. It's still too cold.) All in all I'm feeling pretty dang good and I thank you most sincerely for asking.  And you... how are you doing?  Are you hanging in???  My best... as always... 

    LaCh

    I'm so glad you are feeling better these days!  It's only a matter of time before the weather warms up and you will be strolling in Central Park with your dog!  I wish you continued healing!

  • LaCh
    LaCh Member Posts: 557
    #26
    mp327 said:

    LaCh

    I'm so glad you are feeling better these days!  It's only a matter of time before the weather warms up and you will be strolling in Central Park with your dog!  I wish you continued healing!

    mp327

    Thanks Mp...  yeah, I'm feeling pretty good (except for my hair situation which gets worse by the day... I'm not sure whether to call it really thin or almost bald at this point but if the hair loss doesn't stop soon, the decision will be clear.)

    I was almost almost contemplating Central Park today but....  it's still a bit too cold for me .... Maybe the River (the East River) another huge favorite of mine.  Thanks for the kind words.

  • jcruz
    jcruz Member Posts: 379 Member
    #27
    Marynb said:

    LaCh
    Sounds like you are moving right along in your recovery! I do understand your feelings about the scans. As far as I can decipher from the NCCN standards for surveillance, no scans are recommended post treatment.

    I am doing ok, but getting restless these days. I am thinking of selling everything I own and traveling around for a year or so. I have been so responsible my whole life. When I first graduated from college, a lot of my well to do friends backpacked around the world for a year. I was too damn busy trying to support myself and moving on in my education and career, and then family...blah, blah, blah. So, I want to see the world now. Just thoughts right now, but I simply can't go back to sitting behind a desk. I am rambling....

    How's the book coming?

    nccn guidelines

    It looks to me like the recommendation for follow-up includes imaging in some cases:

    On page ANAL-3: Follow-up

    under complete remission:

    every 3-6 mo for 5 y

    · DRE · Anoscopy · Inguinal node palpation

     

    T3-T4 or inguinal node positive - consider chest/abd/pelvic imaging annually for 3 y

     

  • RoseC
    RoseC Member Posts: 559
    #28
    7243 said:

    You bet!

    one of the very best aspects about this site is we can speak our opinion and we don't always agree!  And you're absolutely right, that's totally ok!  Thanks for your opinions RoseC!   

    Hi y'all -

    Hi y'all - I guess I disagree (no, I know I do, haha), but that's totally, totally ok.

    It IS about forgiveness. Yes, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt and assuming it was a one time thing. That there was a lot going on both in the office and maybe out of the office that led to her behaviour. That's why I thought seeing her again on another visit might be a good idea. No, she shouldn't have been rude - I agree - but still, professional or not, all people are just that, people. And we make mistakes. And we're not always nice to each other.

    Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've often found that when someone is rude to me or when I'm rude to someone else, it's because of other factors, not because I or they wanted to be rude. There have been more than a few times that I just could not understand why someone acted the way they did, only to find out later that there was something bad going on in their life that I had no clue about. I like to think that was what was going on with that nurse. (Course, I DO think that if she acts that way all the time she maybe should be relocated to billing, or something like that. )

    Something else - I don't think having cancer makes us more special than someone who, say, is going through another serious type of illness, the loss of someone, or an infinite number of other troubles. Everyone deserves to be treated with kindness and sympathy but those things are not always easy to give out, for a vast pot of reasons. That's why I think this IS all about forgiveness - you never know what someone else is going through.

    The waiting for three hours in the exam room with no idea of why - that is something that was wrong. Someone should have told Sephie why the wait was so long.

    Hope you all have a wonderful Easter - I'm in New England and the temp is supposed to be near 60 tomorrow - yahoo! It's been a L-O-N-G winter. Happy Easter!

  • Marynb
    Marynb Member Posts: 1,118
    #29
    Rose
    I won't continue this thread, being Easter weekend. In my Christian faith, you can forgive someone but not accept the bad behavior. Reporting bad behavior does not mean you don't forgive the person. Professional standards for nurses do not include rudeness to any patient. If I had an employee that was treating clients rudely, I would surely want to know about it. It is unacceptable. I am sure you never treated anyone rudely in your professional role, whatever that may be.
  • RoseC
    RoseC Member Posts: 559
    #30
    Marynb said:

    Rose
    I won't continue this thread, being Easter weekend. In my Christian faith, you can forgive someone but not accept the bad behavior. Reporting bad behavior does not mean you don't forgive the person. Professional standards for nurses do not include rudeness to any patient. If I had an employee that was treating clients rudely, I would surely want to know about it. It is unacceptable. I am sure you never treated anyone rudely in your professional role, whatever that may be.

    Hi Marynb,
    I'm sorry you

    Hi Marynb,

    I'm sorry you don't feel like you can continue this conversation on Easter. It's that time of year when conversations like this should take place.

    Being a professional has nothing to do with much of anything. Being human does.

    I'm not angry or anything (far from it) and I'm sorry if I've belaboured this - I felt it was important.

    All my best,
    Rose

  • Marynb
    Marynb Member Posts: 1,118
    #31
    RoseC said:

    Hi Marynb,
    I'm sorry you

    Hi Marynb,

    I'm sorry you don't feel like you can continue this conversation on Easter. It's that time of year when conversations like this should take place.

    Being a professional has nothing to do with much of anything. Being human does.

    I'm not angry or anything (far from it) and I'm sorry if I've belaboured this - I felt it was important.

    All my best,
    Rose

    Rose
    I feel it is important too. Professional standards mean something much more than being human!
  • pializ
    pializ Member Posts: 508 Member
    #32
    Marynb said:

    Rose
    I feel it is important too. Professional standards mean something much more than being human!

    rudeness

    When I was in the midst of treatment, the specialist colorectal nurse sat in on my consultation with my oncologist. She did not introduce herself, nor did she add anything to the consultation, just chaperone. The oncologist had to leave the room for a moment. I noticed the nurse wiping her nose and putting the tissue in a bin and then getting another tissue. I asked her if she had a cold. She did! So why did she think that was ok when my immune system was under chemo? ? I asked her to leave. I think her behaviour was beyond that of rudeness and totally unprofessional. I did mention it to the consultant. Not one person apologised though. Not one!

  • Eliz3
    Eliz3 Member Posts: 32
    #33
    pializ said:

    rudeness

    When I was in the midst of treatment, the specialist colorectal nurse sat in on my consultation with my oncologist. She did not introduce herself, nor did she add anything to the consultation, just chaperone. The oncologist had to leave the room for a moment. I noticed the nurse wiping her nose and putting the tissue in a bin and then getting another tissue. I asked her if she had a cold. She did! So why did she think that was ok when my immune system was under chemo? ? I asked her to leave. I think her behaviour was beyond that of rudeness and totally unprofessional. I did mention it to the consultant. Not one person apologised though. Not one!

    Not acceptable

    Smile

     

    Hi everyone, good to read up on how you are all traveling.

    As a nurse myself, many years ago, I am going to go with those of you who said rudeness was not acceptable at all, not at all.  Being human is just not a good enough excuse.  I also believe that cancer patients are more special, you are going through more than any of us could ever imagine and you don't need your day, week, ruined by someone's ignorance.

    Let's face it, she is a nurse, and she is educated to, and paid to, look after people specifically going through the harsh cancer treatment, she is there to make sure you are cared for appropriately, that being with kindness and empathy.

    I would never have been unkind to a patient but I have seen many who would and they need to be pulled up, not let to get away with it.

  • Eliz3
    Eliz3 Member Posts: 32
    #34
    pializ said:

    rudeness

    When I was in the midst of treatment, the specialist colorectal nurse sat in on my consultation with my oncologist. She did not introduce herself, nor did she add anything to the consultation, just chaperone. The oncologist had to leave the room for a moment. I noticed the nurse wiping her nose and putting the tissue in a bin and then getting another tissue. I asked her if she had a cold. She did! So why did she think that was ok when my immune system was under chemo? ? I asked her to leave. I think her behaviour was beyond that of rudeness and totally unprofessional. I did mention it to the consultant. Not one person apologised though. Not one!

    Ignorance

    hi Pializ,



    It constantly amazes me how ignorant people are about passing on their flu, I think they feel it is preferable to turn up to work sick than it is to stay away and not infect patients and staff.  


     

    I know I would have done the same as you did.

     

    I realized I had a sore throat when I was out driving with my sister (she commenced treatment today) and I have felt so bad about it, will feel so horrible if I have passed anything on to her at this crucial time.

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