Got diagnosed with anal cancer caused by HPV
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Dx t3n0m0 anal cancer - how can I find out if HPV caused it?mxperry220 said:Do Not Fear The Unknown
Your reaction is normal. I too am a male who was diagnosed with anal cancer in November 2008. I found all the testing leading up to the treatments was the most stressful for me. I did not sleep much during the testing peiod which lasted about one week. Once the tratments stareted I slept much better due to the diminished stress of the unknown. I received the standard radiation and chemo treatments for anal cancer. I had 30 rounds of radiation treatments and 2 weeks of chemo. The chemo used was mytomycin and 5FU. The 5FU was a pump pack inserted to a port implanted in my chest for ease of administering both chemos. The pump pack was worn 24/7 for 4 days. The mytomycin was administered via the port in the chemo center. Even though the port is a surgical procedure it was no big deal. My chemo doctor told me if I had to have cancer this is one of the "best" to have because it responds well to the treatments and they have more success curing this type cancer versus other type of cancers. If I remember correctly the port was taken out 8 weeks after my final treatments.
I drank Ensure during treatments to make certain I had all the vitamins I needed. My radiation burns were minimal. I ate toast and ice cream during treatments. My diet was rather bland due to diaherrea issues. I did not have any blisters like the doctors described. The doctors said I had extra healthy skin. Hopefully this will be you case.
Mine was more like a sunburn without blisters. This was not only on my buttocks but also in the groin area. I used Aquaphor ointment to apply to the radiation burns. I tried several other ointments but this seemed the best for me. Also I tried several pain meds but found Advil worked the best for me.
After treatments I bought thin sanitary pads and put in my underwear because of seepage. This lasted for about 6 weeks. Diaherrea was an issue for several weeks during/after treatments. I took Immodium which helped me. Sam's sells the gereric which is much cheaper than Immodium brand. I wore briefs rather than boxers during this period bacause the sanitary pad stayed in place better with briefs.
I have more bowel movements post treatment. My normal BMs prior to treatment was 2 daily. I now have 3-4 BMs daily. I take 3 immodiums daily. The doctors said this was O.K. and would not cause any problems. I started eating Activia daily within the last week and this had helped.
After treatments you will probably be seeing your chemo/radiologist every 90 days for the first 1 1/2-2 years. I am almost 3 years post diagnosis and see my doctors every six months.
I found talking with the patients in the oncology area was a big help for me mentally. I realized many of them were much worse than me. Hope some of this helps and puts your mind a little more at ease. Remember to keep a positive mindset during this time.Don't tell me to go to "my" doctor.....to answer this question - I am into wk3 of radiation/chemo for anal cancer. Never engaged in any lifestyle choices which are associated with this type of cancer....how can I find out if I have HPV while in the midst of treatment?
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HpvNYinTX said:Dx t3n0m0 anal cancer - how can I find out if HPV caused it?
Don't tell me to go to "my" doctor.....to answer this question - I am into wk3 of radiation/chemo for anal cancer. Never engaged in any lifestyle choices which are associated with this type of cancer....how can I find out if I have HPV while in the midst of treatment?
Hi
Sorry about your diagnosis. I think they can diagnosis by blood test.
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NYinTXNYinTX said:Dx t3n0m0 anal cancer - how can I find out if HPV caused it?
Don't tell me to go to "my" doctor.....to answer this question - I am into wk3 of radiation/chemo for anal cancer. Never engaged in any lifestyle choices which are associated with this type of cancer....how can I find out if I have HPV while in the midst of treatment?
Your situation is the same as mine was. After almost 4 1/2 years, I still do not know inconclusively that my cancer was HPV-mediated. However, odds are that it was, even though my lifestyle did not put me at risk for the virus. It's my understanding that the only way that this can be determined is to have the tumor tissue that was biopsied tested for HPV. Mine was not.
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Lidocaine +azgal said:Hi Chris, Being diagnosed
Hi Chris,
Being diagnosed is world shaking. Feeling overwhelmed and having fears is so normal. The 1 or 2 stage is optimal for a complete cure which is great news. Treatment can be rough but it is short compared to other cancer treatments. As others have mentioned there are specific things you can do to help yourself through it.
Your stage is typically a good canditate for IMRT radiation which, at a certain point, involves a more focused radiation field and results in far less damage to other surrounding organs and arteries, etc., when compared to the standard alternative radiation. It's something to seriously consider and to discuss with your oncs and the top experts in the field.
I would suggest always getting a second and/or third opinion, and if your treating docs are not top experts in anal cancer to please have your docs consult with the leading experts.
In addition to the other great advice offered here I would also suggest searching out helps on the net that have been of great help to others. These things listed are things that helped me, learned from trial and error but mostly learned from beloved experienced-others on a yahoo group with many members with anal-cancer that helped me select and survive treatment, and then some...
1) Insist on DPD deficiency testing before starting treatment. Approx 1% of patients lack the enzyme needed to process 5FU. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2563423/
2) agree to HIV testing since very critical treatment approach will depend on the results (we can opt not to know the results of the test if we choose)
3) make sure the penis and scrotum is out of the radiation field during radiation treatments
4) have 5% lidocaine on hand to numb radiation sores if you're not allergic to lidocaine. Applying this to the anal and surrounding area for sores every few hours and before BM's will greatly reduce pain. Be aware that most docs will NOT be familiar with 5%, only the 2%, but just insist they Rx 5% and they will.
5) for radiation mouth sore relief beyond what Gel-Clair can numb/handle, and what you might need at a moment's notice, what worked great for me was the script below, written exactly as below, and kept refrigerated (your docs will write it for you exactly as below as you tell them to even though they've probably never heard of it), the beloved radiation mouth-sore relief coined "Miracle Mouth Wash" by others from a yahoo anal-cancer group, can be filled at any local compounding pharmacy (even any compounding walgreens can do this):
Per 180 ML:
45 ML Lidocaine Viscous
45 ML Nystatin Susp
45 ML Diphenhydramine Elixir
45 ML Maylox Plus
6) wear very baggy boxers, if any at all, to allow the best air flow to the rad area and blow dry on cool/warm after bathing and before applying ointments (as others have said, always wash off ointments completely before rad treatment, and if the area has burns/open sores then gentle cleansing and very warm sitz baths 3-5 times a day for a minimum of 20 minutes each brings much relief.
7) disposible bed pads help with keeping resting/sleeping areas sanitary if that becomes an issue
8) Biotene mouth wash and Q-tips for cleansing the teeth/mouth if or when mouth/gums become too sore to brush
9) applying 5% lidocaine before BM's when there's irritation and applying a stream of water during BM's to help reduce acidic discomfort that can occur
10) pepcid ac along with script anti nausea meds helped control stomach upset from the other various meds
11) wiping (gently dabbing, actually) with large cotton balls saturated with water was better tolerable, and when wiping was not possible sitz bath cleansing was substituted
12) Dilauded (hydromorphone) for pain worked best for me since it did not cause stomach upset like some other pain meds had, and there's off script meds that can help with sleep and nausea while also helping with anxiety
13) having both mild anti-D and also mild stool softners on hand is recommended, especially stool softners taken 2-3x daily as directed by docs depending on the individual while taking pain meds (which can cause constipation later on in treatment) if constipation becomes an issue. Having non acidic soft and liquid foods on hand can help if digestive system sores become an issue.
14) after radiation began most foods tasted very odd, or metalic, or way too salty to consider eating, so I kept an open mind for foods that would not usually appeal to me...and I gave up eating with metal silverware because I could not tolerate the feel of it.
15) in a tiny pack I eventually carried a few disposible bed pad liners along with the ones I sat on in car rides, extra change of shorts, zip lock baggies, travel size non alcohol wipes, large cotton balls, bathroom tissues/paper towels, non stick gauze pads, a surgi bottle to fill for a cleansing water source, extra lidocaine and OTC oinment, 1-2 day's supply of all meds, and crackers or other harmless snacks to nibble as needed along with an ample supply of water. Drinking lots of water (6-8 glasses per day) helps flush the body. Moisturizing lip balm can come in handy for dry lips. As always, first ok everything with your docs.
There's so much info to help during treatment and after, and I've listed only the things I recall offhand that helped me get through it. I had a little 3 or 4 shelf unit with all supplies on it in the bathroom that made it easy for me access without help.
Wishing you all the best, Chris.My “sherpa” (a friend who had the same cancer and the same treatment) recommended something called ELAM Cream, which is 2.5% lidocaine and 2.5% prilocaine. It's very effective for the anal discomfort caused by radiation. It can also be applied to the chemo port about an hour or two before it is accessed, and you won't feel a thing.
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HPV & SCCmp327 said:NYinTX
Your situation is the same as mine was. After almost 4 1/2 years, I still do not know inconclusively that my cancer was HPV-mediated. However, odds are that it was, even though my lifestyle did not put me at risk for the virus. It's my understanding that the only way that this can be determined is to have the tumor tissue that was biopsied tested for HPV. Mine was not.
thanks for reply
have since found out that yes, positive for HPV16. Now wracking my brains for the past 40 years of how I could have gotten the virus......lol.....40 years! have 2 more weeks of radiation and staring second round of 5FU fanny pack next week.....then wait for repeat CAT scan in May, etc. etc. etc. I have allegedly t3-n0-m0, i.e. Stage 2-3....so am at risk for colostomy....
how many of you out there faced a decision as to what to do next after initial chemoradiation did not do away with entire tumor?
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Hi ChrisChris Ptown said:Thank you PJS62, azgal, RoseC, DogGirl and cph1127
you ALL are so amazing! i never thought perfect strangers could be so warm, friendly, loving and supportive... thanks to each of you that has responded to me I am so grateful..so i go to Mass General North tomorrow (Friday) to meet my new oncologist Dr Schwartz and my new radiation doc Dr Soto. I am anxious to start my treatments and get this all done with. I am so thankful I have you guys to chat with during and after! You guys all rock! XXOOCan I ask how you are now? Thanks for sharing..!
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