A Difficult Question
When we first learned of my husband's diagnosis of Stage 4 and his prognosis, it was as if time stopped. I immediately began research and found the stories on this forum both encouraging and heartbreaking as well as a little bit frightening. When I hear of how much suffering people with EC have gone through, I can't help but look ahead. After 2 months (which was the low end of prognosis) he still appears healthy.
Many caretakers have noted that their spouse/mate/relative had no other health issues and appeared healthy when diagnosed. My question is; can you tell me about the progression of the disease that you experienced?
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esophagus cancer
mine went fast, i wish i would had months, i was diagnosed augest 27 2012 by end sept my tumo had grown to where they could not run a scope down my esophagus any more to check its size, i started chemo weekly on oct 3 and radiation daily same day, for 6.5 weeks they opperated on jan 4 2013 and remover most my stomac and most my esophagus i am now battling a weight loss of over 100 lbs and trying to eat, i sleep in an upright possistion to hinder acid reflux, there are some good days but mostly bad ones at this point,
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I wouldn't have known
I wouldn't have known anything was wrong with my dad at all until he started chemo and radiation- which really threw him for a lope. After the brief pause in chemo before his surgery, my dad was back to his old self- hiking, canoeing, doing projects around the house...The surgery really, really set him back, and he never truly recovered from it. He was stage III when diagnosed, and at the time, going through chemo/surgery was the most practical option. But seeing his decline after the surgery really makes me wonder if we made the best decision.
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To Cokecola KiddCokecola kidd said:esophagus cancer
mine went fast, i wish i would had months, i was diagnosed augest 27 2012 by end sept my tumo had grown to where they could not run a scope down my esophagus any more to check its size, i started chemo weekly on oct 3 and radiation daily same day, for 6.5 weeks they opperated on jan 4 2013 and remover most my stomac and most my esophagus i am now battling a weight loss of over 100 lbs and trying to eat, i sleep in an upright possistion to hinder acid reflux, there are some good days but mostly bad ones at this point,
Hang in there. You are still relatively early post-op. I felt terrible for quite some time after my surgery. I literally threw up everything I ate, suffered horrible reflux when I tried to sleep despite being elevated, and had no energy or strength. I lost about 70 pounds. My husband thought I would be an invalid for the rest of my life. I really was in bad shape.
You should see me now, though. I'm a teacher and went back to work in August of 2010 after my surgery in February of 2010. I have only missed one day of work and that is due to having an MRI on my shoulder. It really does get better, so hang tough.
Melinda
dx Oct. 2009
Nov. and Dec. 2009--chemo and radiation (cisplatin and 5-FU)
Feb. 2010 Ivor Lewis Surgery
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My husband was diagnosed asAltra said:I wouldn't have known
I wouldn't have known anything was wrong with my dad at all until he started chemo and radiation- which really threw him for a lope. After the brief pause in chemo before his surgery, my dad was back to his old self- hiking, canoeing, doing projects around the house...The surgery really, really set him back, and he never truly recovered from it. He was stage III when diagnosed, and at the time, going through chemo/surgery was the most practical option. But seeing his decline after the surgery really makes me wonder if we made the best decision.
My husband was diagnosed as Stage IV in June 2011. He was on a chemo break from June 2012 until Jan 2013 after a progression. He is now back on Taxol which worked well and was well tolerated before. I think many of us don't even want to hear any projected time ranges. Doctors are not God , regardless of what some of them may think. And everyone is a statistic of one. There are some Stage IVs that are living full lives 6-8 years out. As for your question, EC can and does progress in different ways for different people. Some, including us, think that the best quality of life for the longest period of time is a good goal for Stage IVs. This disease sure makes you realize that each day is precious.
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Altra~See my ltr to you @ http://csn.cancer.org/node/254526Altra said:I wouldn't have known
I wouldn't have known anything was wrong with my dad at all until he started chemo and radiation- which really threw him for a lope. After the brief pause in chemo before his surgery, my dad was back to his old self- hiking, canoeing, doing projects around the house...The surgery really, really set him back, and he never truly recovered from it. He was stage III when diagnosed, and at the time, going through chemo/surgery was the most practical option. But seeing his decline after the surgery really makes me wonder if we made the best decision.
Dear Altra –
Your letter touched me. I sense a lot of regrets and looking back which Dad would not want. Hope this season of grief will soon be mellowed with more memories of happy times he spent with you. Yes I know it hurts, but better times will come. Rest assured Dad made all the right decisions. Remember him for all he did to preserve life so he could spend more time with you and the rest of his family.
Wrote you a separate letter here - http://csn.cancer.org/node/254526.
Praying for you especially on March 13th
“Flo”
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There are long term Stage IV Survivors
When we hear “Stage IV” we frequently expect the worst. Unfortunately, Stage IV Esophageal Cancer is a grim diagnosis. But there are people who survive, some for a substantial period of time. Jane Picket is the longest term Esophageal Cancer survivor I am aware of, who has not had the benefit of surgery. I know this is an "exceptional case" and certainly not a “typical case” but hope is like love, it is free, and there is never too much.
I am sure Jane would not mind if I duplicated her post of the first of this month.
Subject:
From:
Jane Pickett <YazooPic@AOL.COM>
Reply-To:
Esophageal Cancers Discussion List <EC-GROUP@LISTSERV.ACOR.ORG>
Date:
Fri, 1 Feb 2013 01:05:27 -0500
I just wanted to share this milestone with all of you, particularly the
newly diagnosed EC patients and their caregivers. 39 years ago this month, I
began this journey with EC. I was only 34 at the time and had never heard
of esophageal cancer, I didn't even know the type of doctor I should see.
I first went to two ENT's only to be told my swallowing problems were due
to nerves. After two years of suffering from what I thought was indigestion
and problems with swallowing, I found an internest who immediately put me
in the hospital and ran some test. It was a whirlwind of being examined by
different doctors, surgery to do biopsies (three) at two different
hospitals. The first two were done in Miami because the surgeon wasn't satisfied
that the results of the first biopsy were correct, the second showed
squamous cell carcinoma of the esophagus. A few days later we were flown to ST
Louis for a second opinion and another biopsy to determine if I could be a
candidate for surgery. This proved not to be the solution for me. My
cancer was inoperable, it began at the top of the esophagus and was quite large
and had broken thru the wall of the esophagus. My husband and I were told
to get our affairs in order, that I only had two weeks to six months to
live. The doctor was not sure that anyone would accept me for radiation
treatment, but because we knew of a doctor in Gainesville, Fl who had trained
under this doctor, he made the arrangements for me to be seen. I lived in
Gainesville with friends and was experimentally treated with radiation. This
was in 1974. Many improvements have been made since then in the treatment
of EC. I probably would still not be a candidate for surgery due to the
location, but for some unexplained reason I have survived this terrible
cancer and am doing very well. I have met many of you personally over the
years and treasure the memories. I have been saddened by the loss of quite a
few of my EC friends, Dennis, Ray, Jim and now George and others, but I
have also been encouraged by the long term survival of many others that I have
met, Micky, Steve, Colin, John, Colleen, Sissy ,
David and Eric and so many others that serve as inspiration to the newly
diagnosed, that there can be survival. Who would have thought I would be
here writing to you 39 years later. I pray that you will all join the ranks
of the above mentioned, they are an incredible bunch.
Jane Picket
May your husband have a long survivorship as a Stage IV.
Best Regards,
Paul Adams
McCormick, South Carolina
DX 10/2009 T2N1M0 Stage IIB - Ivor Lewis Surgery 12/3/2009 - Post Surgery Chemotherapy 2/2009 – 6/2009
Cisplatin, Epirubicin, 5 FU - Three Year Survivor
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I think of you often, Altra!Altra said:I wouldn't have known
I wouldn't have known anything was wrong with my dad at all until he started chemo and radiation- which really threw him for a lope. After the brief pause in chemo before his surgery, my dad was back to his old self- hiking, canoeing, doing projects around the house...The surgery really, really set him back, and he never truly recovered from it. He was stage III when diagnosed, and at the time, going through chemo/surgery was the most practical option. But seeing his decline after the surgery really makes me wonder if we made the best decision.
Your Nick (dad) and my Nick (husband) - so similar in so many things! I know you miss him. I understand that so much that it huts. I remember you when you were posting here and going through the treatment / surgery times. I recall "talking" with you then.
Don't 2nd guess yourself or your dad. He did what was right for him, what was right for a chance to beat this beast. Doing anything less would have been not your Dad or not my Nickel. You know this type of guy - he will meet the world head on and do his damnedest to make it march to his tune! And bless them - they tried hard, very hard
Hugs to you! I share your sorrow and sadness.
Terry
PROUD wife to Nick, age 49
lost battle to FEC, June 19, 20120
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