Recurrence Prevention

Double Whammy said:

My take on the diet thing

is simply that we should nuture our bodies with healthy foods and exercise and avoid things we know are bad for us (cigarettes, processed foods, etc) so we'll be as healthy as possible for whatever comes our way.  And we will all have a health crisis some time.  It doesn't have to be cancer!  And on occasion, we need to nuture our psyche and have that meal or dessert that gives us sublime pleasure.   And I actually practiced that after my diagnosis.  And I felt really good (except when I was on chemo).   For the past year,  eating healthy and exercising has become an occasional experience rather than the norm and that is not making me happy or healthy.   

 Anti Cancer - A New Way of Life by Dr. Servan-Shriver is an excellent book and gives you plenty of food for thought.

I wish us all the abiity to live as healthy a lifestyle as we can - however we define that.

By the way, my cancers were caused by running behind the mosquito abatement trucks and playing in the fog as a child!  And if you believe that  . . . .

Suzanne

Suzanne, are you from the South?  My husband used to bicycle behind the mosquito fog to get a good blast.  He speaks fondly of the old smell (yuck). Lol, he has never had cancer.  

get cancer and who don't  What we eat ,what we drink , what in the air all can be bad .I do try to eat health I am a dibetic and have to watch what I eat but it is what if should of been doing before I got dibetis.I do try to walk every day 20min or more I like going up hill it give me a better workout.As for cancer returning I am like you I don;t want to wast my time thinking about it but I do keep doing what the doctor says to do .If cancer returns I will deal with it then.

SIROD said:

For PennyJ

Since we come in all sizes, skinny, medium, large, x-large, I don't believe anyone should feel guilty because it is not a real cause in why we are diagnose with breast cancer.   The bottom line is they simply don't know the cause of breast cancer.

 

In the area of "Statistics for Breast Cancer" - the following:

 

Causes:  Metastasis happens despite vigilance and precautions.  Healthy lifestyles, timely screening and early detection are no guarantee a person will not metastasize.  Even stage 0 patients metastasize.

 

http://www.metavivor.org/Awareness_Stats.html

 

 I doubt that I will ever have a Bananas Foster and thank you Cypress Cynthia for posting it.  I enjoyed it without gaining a calorie. 

 

Best,

 

Doris

 

Doris ( and everyone else), You never know when you may come down to New Orleans!  Contact me if you do and we will "pass a good time" (that's Cajun talk).  The Fench Quarter and Uptown were never hit by Hurricane Katrina because they are high ground, so to speak.  And , after the Super Bowl, the city should be looking especially nice then.  Just don't come in the summer.  It is too hot! 

disneyfan2008 said:

My sister did the same with

My sister did the same with my Mom..(she died 6+ yrs ago but no cancer) MY sister would make her drink (daily even if staying with me post hospital stays) home made (nasty looking) juice. (green slime to me) MY mom I must say was JUNK JUNK JUNK food eater and ate like a child (burger and fries, corn)

 

MY mom just appeased her..and then ate what she wanted...lol... to this day rest of family chuckle over her having health drink in one hand and soda in the other..

 

Denise

Life can be such a crap shoot. Danny's mom used to fuss about Danny's grandmother's (Mimi) coca cola habit.  She said it was going to kill her drinking those awful sodas.  Well Mimi lived to be 95 and died in her own little apartment (not assisted living).  She was overweight but healthy until she died.  His mom is 80 but really struggling with dementia, hypertension and epilepsy and is in assisted living.  Go figure!

diagnosis, I just remember hearing my brother in law's words..."stop drinking diet cokes, they gonna kill you!" I just felt the NEED for answers. What did I do or eat to cause this? No one in my family had it although my Father is a colon cancer survivor and I have read a few articles linking colon/breast cancer. Anyway, as many of you stated, I  believe there are many factors that play a part in the development of cancer. Stress, obesity, genes, environment...etc. My dear mother blamed a drug she took back in the 60's to keep from miscarrying me labeled DES. It was touted as some vitamin so she took it for a few months. Not long after it was found to cause abnormalities and yes, possibly breast cancer.

All in all, I do believe a good diet of fruits and vegetables, fish, lean meats and chicken and the "occasional" indulgence can only do your body good as opposed to high sugar and fat that can be found in a lot of processed foods. My doctor told me that she sees many breast cancer survivors develop diabetes as she feels the organs have been compromised with such heavy duty drugs so it's crucial to watch the sugar intake. I have such a sweet tooth so that's a challenge. Dark chocolate 82% with low sodium almonds...in moderation of course.

I personally believe demographics play a part in my cancer. We lived close to an air force base growing up and years later there were rumors of toxic waste in and around our area. As of today, practically every household had someone with cancer. Not only in my parents generation, but in their children. That just doesn't sound like some coinsidence.

I'm just curious as to WHY breast cancer has increased so much in the past 10 years? Is it computers? Could it be the lead-laden purses we carry close to our breasts? Plastic water bottles? Who knows? It's frustrating as heck when I hear of yet another person diagnosed.

It is not totally understood what causes breast cancer. However there are very good clues. This is a disease that has been decribed in ancient Egyptian writtings.

There are women who are genetically predisposed tothe disease, like women with BRCA 1 and BRCA 2 mutations. These genes help repair DNA and when defective DNA can not be repaired effectively causing cancer. Women with these mutations are also morelikely to have ovarian and colon cancers.

So far evidence suggests that for other majority of women, prolonged Estrogen exposure seems to be the main reason. Estrogen has been declared by NIH to be a class one cancerogen. Breast cancer cases has increased tremendously in our modern world, because women are exposed to huge amounts of estrogen. this estrogen is mainly coming from inside our own  body. Effect of estrogen we get true plastics, and chemicals etc are actually not the main cause. It is true some in some areas poluted water has caused high incidences of cancer, many such areas are military bases.

Today women have less children , at a later age , breast fed less often and shorter, mensturate a longer period of time. just 100 years ago , women started having periods much later age, shortly after they were married, get pregnant, there was nothing as formula ( at least most part of the world), so either they breast fed or the baby died ( cow milk was not a very good substitude and even finding clean constant supply of cow milk was difficult), Women were not supposed to have this long a mensturial period. It is estimated that 100 years ago most women had a total of 300 to 500 peroids at their life time, while today women on average have 1500 to 2000 periods per life time, tremedously increasing their estrogen exposure.

Let me give you two examples from animal world. Did you know if not spayed 1 out of every 4 dog will develop breast cancer. If a dog is spayed before it's 2nd heat , chances of a dog developing breast cancer goes down to less than 1%. Same applies for mice, if a mice had it's ovaries taken out at an early age it will not develop breast cancer. These clearly show the cause of estrogen on breast cancer

Human studies show that bilateral removal of ovaries decrease breast cancer risk in general by 50%( earlier they are removed higher the decrease) Also women with higher estrogen levels has much higher risk for breast cancer. If a women has high levels of both estrogen , progesterone and testestoren her cahnces of breast cancer increases 6 fold.

It is not this simple offcourse there might be many contributing factors, Still estrogen is one of the top causes of breast cancer.

Estrogen is good for women too, it gives us all the characteristics of a women, it decreases chances of heart disease, it probably makes us more social, loving, caring and smart too. But there has to be a balalnce like everything some is good too much of it is not good.

Prevention and recurrence of breast cancer is possible , especially for estrogen driven ER positive cancers. Sisters and daughters of breast cancer patients are increased risk, their chances can be decreased by anti-estrogen medications, like tamoxiphen, raloxiphen and Arimidex. Please do not burry your heads in the sand and think it was a fluke it is not going to happen to mey daugter or sister. It may not, but it may and it definetly does not hurt if they consider and discuss chemoprevention with their physicians

Your daughter is brilliant!!  www.naturalnews.com Prevention of cancer and other diseases is the real cure. Of course, once disease enters the body, we search for a cure. Diet is the key to prevention. If you eat the right foods, those foods will give you the nutrients necessary to prevent disease, and to heal and restore the body to normal functioning, much like a plant.

If you start reading the information on the website above, you will learn more about living a full, abundant life, rather than being sick. Our creator never meant for us to be constantly sick, or fearing disease.

burcu123 said:

there are clues about what causes breast cancer

It is not totally understood what causes breast cancer. However there are very good clues. This is a disease that has been decribed in ancient Egyptian writtings.

There are women who are genetically predisposed tothe disease, like women with BRCA 1 and BRCA 2 mutations. These genes help repair DNA and when defective DNA can not be repaired effectively causing cancer. Women with these mutations are also morelikely to have ovarian and colon cancers.

So far evidence suggests that for other majority of women, prolonged Estrogen exposure seems to be the main reason. Estrogen has been declared by NIH to be a class one cancerogen. Breast cancer cases has increased tremendously in our modern world, because women are exposed to huge amounts of estrogen. this estrogen is mainly coming from inside our own  body. Effect of estrogen we get true plastics, and chemicals etc are actually not the main cause. It is true some in some areas poluted water has caused high incidences of cancer, many such areas are military bases.

Today women have less children , at a later age , breast fed less often and shorter, mensturate a longer period of time. just 100 years ago , women started having periods much later age, shortly after they were married, get pregnant, there was nothing as formula ( at least most part of the world), so either they breast fed or the baby died ( cow milk was not a very good substitude and even finding clean constant supply of cow milk was difficult), Women were not supposed to have this long a mensturial period. It is estimated that 100 years ago most women had a total of 300 to 500 peroids at their life time, while today women on average have 1500 to 2000 periods per life time, tremedously increasing their estrogen exposure.

Let me give you two examples from animal world. Did you know if not spayed 1 out of every 4 dog will develop breast cancer. If a dog is spayed before it's 2nd heat , chances of a dog developing breast cancer goes down to less than 1%. Same applies for mice, if a mice had it's ovaries taken out at an early age it will not develop breast cancer. These clearly show the cause of estrogen on breast cancer

Human studies show that bilateral removal of ovaries decrease breast cancer risk in general by 50%( earlier they are removed higher the decrease) Also women with higher estrogen levels has much higher risk for breast cancer. If a women has high levels of both estrogen , progesterone and testestoren her cahnces of breast cancer increases 6 fold.

It is not this simple offcourse there might be many contributing factors, Still estrogen is one of the top causes of breast cancer.

Estrogen is good for women too, it gives us all the characteristics of a women, it decreases chances of heart disease, it probably makes us more social, loving, caring and smart too. But there has to be a balalnce like everything some is good too much of it is not good.

Prevention and recurrence of breast cancer is possible , especially for estrogen driven ER positive cancers. Sisters and daughters of breast cancer patients are increased risk, their chances can be decreased by anti-estrogen medications, like tamoxiphen, raloxiphen and Arimidex. Please do not burry your heads in the sand and think it was a fluke it is not going to happen to mey daugter or sister. It may not, but it may and it definetly does not hurt if they consider and discuss chemoprevention with their physicians

 

Dear Burcu123,

The cause of breast cancer is not known.  I'm not sure all the clues are in, even if they have a toe hold on some. 

 Breast cancer cases has increased tremendously in our modern world, because women are exposed to huge amounts of estrogen. this estrogen is mainly coming from inside our own  body. Effect of estrogen we get true plastics, and chemicals etc are actually not the main cause. It is true some in some areas poluted water has caused high incidences of cancer, many such areas are military bases.

Since breast cancer is the oldest recorded disease in history, dating back to 490 b.c., I don't believe your take on it shows a lot of validity.

There is a reason why the medical establishment does not give serious drugs out haphazardly as you suggest with Tamoxifen and etc.  These drugs have very serious side effects.

Doris