acid reflux

rarph123
rarph123 Member Posts: 64
in Head and Neck Cancer #1

Just a short story of treatment for acid reflux and stomache burning after eating.TX. stage 4 lung and B.O.T ( chemo & rad ) Tried about everything on the market for stomache burning and acid reflux--to include bed raised. Apple cider Vinegar cured, mixed with half water and half Vinegar. Not a very good taste but it shure cured the problem. At bed time I take two spoonfulls of Yogurt.

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  • katenorwood
    katenorwood Member Posts: 1,912
    #2
    Apple Cider Vineagar

    Hello !

    I believe there are alot of amazing things that we have right in the house to help with irritants.  But boy half and half on that vineagar sounds pretty harsh.  I have begun to use the plain yogurt to stave off yeast infections of the mouth....from use of antibiotics (ect).  I wish you continued success with that acid reflux....and yes keeping that bed elevated does help.   Katie

  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    #3
    Protonix..

    Pretty much what I have been on since ending treatment a few years ago...

    If you are going to try the cider vinegar, try adding a little honey to it...

    JG

  • corleone
    corleone Member Posts: 312 Member
    #4
    Skiffin16 said:

    Protonix..

    Pretty much what I have been on since ending treatment a few years ago...

    If you are going to try the cider vinegar, try adding a little honey to it...

    JG

    pyrosis

    Hi JG,

    I was wondering if you used Protonix continually after the treatment, all these years? I am on Omeprazole (same mechanism of action) since I started the treatment. It looks like the treatment triggered some sort of mechanism that enhances acidity or it’s just the gastric or esophageal mucosa that is more sensitive to low pH (from radiation). I didn’t have pyrosis prior to treatment.

  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    #5
    corleone said:

    pyrosis

    Hi JG,

    I was wondering if you used Protonix continually after the treatment, all these years? I am on Omeprazole (same mechanism of action) since I started the treatment. It looks like the treatment triggered some sort of mechanism that enhances acidity or it’s just the gastric or esophageal mucosa that is more sensitive to low pH (from radiation). I didn’t have pyrosis prior to treatment.

    Acid Reflux

    Pretty much, yes...

    The pharmacy has substitued the protonix with omeprazole before though..

    Actually, my oncoc prescribed protonix, pharmacy fills it with pantoprazole.

    I don't have heartburn or anything, just a tendancy for acid reflux, during the middle of the night, early morning frequently.

    JG

  • corleone
    corleone Member Posts: 312 Member
    #6
    Skiffin16 said:

    Acid Reflux

    Pretty much, yes...

    The pharmacy has substitued the protonix with omeprazole before though..

    Actually, my oncoc prescribed protonix, pharmacy fills it with pantoprazole.

    I don't have heartburn or anything, just a tendancy for acid reflux, during the middle of the night, early morning frequently.

    JG

    @JG

    Thanks for your reply. Same here. This is compounded by the fact that my mouth/throat gets completely dried during night, to the point that even deglutition is “weird” and difficult. Things get back to the (new) normal during day, though.

  • denistd
    denistd Member Posts: 597
    #7
    corleone said:

    @JG

    Thanks for your reply. Same here. This is compounded by the fact that my mouth/throat gets completely dried during night, to the point that even deglutition is “weird” and difficult. Things get back to the (new) normal during day, though.

    acid reflux

    I had a problem with intestinal bleeding in 2011, was hospitalized for 5 days, acid refkex was real bad. doctors gave me protonix in the hospital. When I left the hospital I was given a precription for protonix. When my wife went to the pharmacy, they wanted $200 for A 30 day supply, pharmacist suggested that Prilosec OTC would do the same thing so she got that. A month later I saw my cardiologist and told him what had happened and that I was taking prilosec, his face drained and he said stop immediately. He said go on the protonix. I take plavix once a day and apparently the prilosec negated all of the effect of plavix. So I went on the protonix, although both are proton pump inhibitors protonix does not interact against the plavix. Plavix is now generic so the cost problem has gone away. It's important to make sure of your medications if you have other issues. have not had heartburn once since the bleeding, it was a stomach ulcer that caused the bleeding. Denis

  • ToBeGolden
    ToBeGolden Member Posts: 695
    #8
    Prilosec and Calcium

    I believe that the strong acid reducers inhibit calcium absorption from the stomach. This is not a particular problem unless your parathyroid glands have been damaged during neck disection. With damaged parathyroids, calcium regulation is way off. And if you can't supplement you end up in a potentially dangerous situation.

    So here's the symptom for low calcium: facial twitches.In fact doctors will tap the side of the cheek to try to ilicit twitches. Advice: (a) If you are on a proton pump inhibitor, or really any acid reducer AND (b) if you develop facial twitches (or possibly twitching anywhere) AND (c) had neck radiation or surgery, go have your calcium level checked out. It's a blood draw. It's probably nothing. But if you do have low calcium, some supplements and possibly altering the acid reducer will fix you up.

    My facil twitches were NOT massive and they were not always present. But my calcium levels were near 6 (they should be above 8.5). The docs immediately gave me a calcium IV infusion (even keeping the infusion center open late to accomodate me). So by the doctors reaction, I conclude that the low calcium after neck surgery/radiation is a REAL concer for a few of us. Rick.

  • Tim6003
    Tim6003 Member Posts: 1,514 Member
    #9
    ToBeGolden said:

    Prilosec and Calcium

    I believe that the strong acid reducers inhibit calcium absorption from the stomach. This is not a particular problem unless your parathyroid glands have been damaged during neck disection. With damaged parathyroids, calcium regulation is way off. And if you can't supplement you end up in a potentially dangerous situation.

    So here's the symptom for low calcium: facial twitches.In fact doctors will tap the side of the cheek to try to ilicit twitches. Advice: (a) If you are on a proton pump inhibitor, or really any acid reducer AND (b) if you develop facial twitches (or possibly twitching anywhere) AND (c) had neck radiation or surgery, go have your calcium level checked out. It's a blood draw. It's probably nothing. But if you do have low calcium, some supplements and possibly altering the acid reducer will fix you up.

    My facil twitches were NOT massive and they were not always present. But my calcium levels were near 6 (they should be above 8.5). The docs immediately gave me a calcium IV infusion (even keeping the infusion center open late to accomodate me). So by the doctors reaction, I conclude that the low calcium after neck surgery/radiation is a REAL concer for a few of us. Rick.

    Can't help much hear, no experience on this issue, yet :)

    But wanted to lend a I'm in your corner support as a fellow H&N and pray it gets better / remedied.

     

    Best,

    Tim

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