Dad Diagnosed With Gleason (5+4)

Samsungtech1 said:

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I am teuly sorry for your dad's sickness. It would seem with all positive cores that it is more than the prostate. Have they tested the lymph nodes? It does not get this bad without spreading. My tests came back negative, but it was in my bladder and lungs. No one saw it. Had to demand an x-ray just to prove my point. No fun winning that argument.

The problem now becomes who you trust. HT and casodex would be a start. Might help isolate where it is. But I am sure you have heard DaVinci, cyberknife, and a whole host of similar treatments. The second opinion would seem to be the hard point. 12 of 12 positive cores is bad. I believe the above treatment is a good treatment. Unfortunately it really is hard to say, but all those positives are a worry.

Mike

hopeful and optimistic said:

vitamin e and selenium
There was a major study "the Select Study" among approximately 35,000 men that was designed to measure the benefits of selium and vitamin E over a seven year period. The study was stopped early since negative benefits were observed.

Afterward, there was also another study at the Cleaveland Clinic that looked at Vitamin E. This study also showed negative benefit for Vitamin E.

caseyh said:

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Tim,

Excluding the vitamin E & Selenium, your list of supplements is pretty basic and recommended by Dr. Myers for most of his patients. Vitamin D should be monitored and optimized using blood tests. Dr. Myer's list of supplements and dosages have changed over the years as the literature has evolved. He recommends additional supplements, changes in diet, weight control, and exercise on a patient by patient basis.

Most of us take our supplements on a daily basis not knowing if they are doing any good, but fearing the possible consequences if we stop. I am in my 13th year of survival, and I felt that way for many years. About a year ago I met a patient who was diagnosed with disease so lethal that doctors basically told him to get his affairs in order. He used diet and supplements (no medical treatment) to reverse his disease to a point that a tumor on his liver disappeared and his PSA dropped dramatically to a manageable level. He is now receiving more conventional medical treatment and is doing very well. I am absolutely convinced that diet and supplements can have a tremendous impact on PCa. I have also met patients who have gotten themselves into deep trouble trying to self-medicate their disease with herbs and supplements. I see nutrition & supplements, for the most part, as being a COMPLIMENTARY approach that should be done under the supervision of a PCa oncologist. It is not clear if your dad remains in China, but if he returns home, he should be under the care of an oncologist who specializes in PCa. I personally would be extremely reluctant to use an oncologist who rejected a complimentary approach.

Dr. Myer's nutritional program along with a large collection of prostate cancer friendly recipes are explained in plain language in his new book, THE PROSTATE CANCER NUTRITION BOOK, Rivanna Health Publications, 2012. The chapter on “Evidenced-Based Nutrition” discusses the conflicting and confusing nature of studies often reported on the Internet by gurus who seem to lack the basic understanding of biology necessary to properly interpret the study. The goal of his book is “to reduce all of this information into an easily adoptable diet and exercise program proven to a have dramatic impact on your health.”

I admire the fact that you are doing the research necessary to take charge of your dad's cancer. You probably feel somewhat overwhelmed by the gigantic amount of material that you need to digest. Feel free to email me via CSN Mail for additional information.

Wishing you and your dad success,
CaseyH