Dr. Joel Wallach. (naturopath) Has anyone ever heard of him?

mom2greatkids
mom2greatkids Member Posts: 528
in Ovarian Cancer #1
Hello Ladies,

My daughter's roommate contacted me yesterday saying they were meeting with Dr. Joel Wallach yesterday and today. She arranged a three way call for me with him and his assistant this afternoon. I realize he was in a hurry, but I must say his personality on the phone did not impress me. He told me to avoid virgin olive oil as it helps grow cancer. I thought it was the one healthy oil we could eat.

There's just so much information and misinformation out there regarding cancer treatments (or any other disease for that matter).


http://www.skepdic.com/wallach.html A google search (well I used bing) will turn up many articles about this man. I know that some of you do see naturopaths. The more I read the more confused I become. He asked me weight, I told him. He informed me that was more or less breeding ground for cancer. How would he know? He doesn't know how tall I am. LOL! I am about 15 lbs. over weight. Before my diagnosis last year I was close to 50 lbs. over weight.

I'm about to reach the conclusion that if God gave us the food naturally (fruits, veggies, nuts, etc.) it's safe to eat. If not, we should leave if off if possible.

What say you?

Thanks,

Carla

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  • 2timothy1 7
    2timothy1 7 Member Posts: 345
    #2
    I think I agree with you on
    I think I agree with you on eating the foods God naturally gave us. it is overwhelming to weed through all the info on diet and supplements. I have an appt with a holist doc this Friday. He does the high dose vit c infusions. Don't really know if it will help or not. Ive read some material that says it will and some that is inconclusive. Then again everyones body is different.
    Good Luck
    Shawnna
  • Tethys41
    Tethys41 Member Posts: 1,382 Member
    #3
    Naturopath
    Carla,
    It's hard to say about this guy. The article you attached a link for makes it sound like he has his own agenda and that may be clouding his views. He may be very knowlegable, but the information you have provided does not make him look like a very reliable source.
    I am a huge advocate of working with a skilled naturopath once diagnosed with this disease. I can only give reviews on the two I have worked with, but they are both very competant and one is exceptionally knowlegable about ovarian cancer specifically.
    I think rapport is important. While I was in treatment, I met a doctor who is supposed to be the guru of integrative treatments. He was a total ****. So, I didn't care how much he knew, or might be ablt to help me, I didn't want anything to do with him. I managed to get well, just fine, without his help.
  • mom2greatkids
    mom2greatkids Member Posts: 528
    #4
    Tethys41 said:

    Naturopath
    Carla,
    It's hard to say about this guy. The article you attached a link for makes it sound like he has his own agenda and that may be clouding his views. He may be very knowlegable, but the information you have provided does not make him look like a very reliable source.
    I am a huge advocate of working with a skilled naturopath once diagnosed with this disease. I can only give reviews on the two I have worked with, but they are both very competant and one is exceptionally knowlegable about ovarian cancer specifically.
    I think rapport is important. While I was in treatment, I met a doctor who is supposed to be the guru of integrative treatments. He was a total ****. So, I didn't care how much he knew, or might be ablt to help me, I didn't want anything to do with him. I managed to get well, just fine, without his help.

    Well the old saying if it
    Well the old saying if it sounds too good to be true it probably is... I did not have a real good feeling about it myself. Can you share with us some of the things the naturopaths suggested for you? I searched, but there are not any even in my state. Do the naturopaths advocate against chemo? I fear that many like this man I mentioned (though I'm not saying it is for sure with him) have an agenda and that involves making a lot of $ off of sick people. Hope I"m wrong, but I do not trust easily.

    Carla
  • Tethys41
    Tethys41 Member Posts: 1,382 Member
    #5
    mom2greatkids said:

    Well the old saying if it
    Well the old saying if it sounds too good to be true it probably is... I did not have a real good feeling about it myself. Can you share with us some of the things the naturopaths suggested for you? I searched, but there are not any even in my state. Do the naturopaths advocate against chemo? I fear that many like this man I mentioned (though I'm not saying it is for sure with him) have an agenda and that involves making a lot of $ off of sick people. Hope I"m wrong, but I do not trust easily.

    Carla

    Treatment
    Carla,
    The important thing I have learned through working with my naturopath is that you can't treat every ovarian cancer patient the same and get consistantly good results. She runs a lot of tests on a new patient, to identify the imbalances within that person. From the results, she determines what will be beneficial for you specifically. So, she does some genetic tests, to see what is wired wrong. Then she does blood tests that show things like your risks related to blood sugar, or angiogenesis, or metastasis, or tendancy for cancer cells to stick together. The list goes on and on. But she will find the combination of things that need support in your body and then recommend diet, supplement, exercise, and stress manaagement plans to balance your body. I've even come to realize that if all these parameters are in balance, cancer can't grow, even if you have something like the BRCA mutation, cancer cannot grow without these imbalances to support it. It really is amazing stuff. But you see, if I told you what I am doing, it wouldn't necessarily help you, because you are different than I.
  • mom2greatkids
    mom2greatkids Member Posts: 528
    #6
    Tethys41 said:

    Treatment
    Carla,
    The important thing I have learned through working with my naturopath is that you can't treat every ovarian cancer patient the same and get consistantly good results. She runs a lot of tests on a new patient, to identify the imbalances within that person. From the results, she determines what will be beneficial for you specifically. So, she does some genetic tests, to see what is wired wrong. Then she does blood tests that show things like your risks related to blood sugar, or angiogenesis, or metastasis, or tendancy for cancer cells to stick together. The list goes on and on. But she will find the combination of things that need support in your body and then recommend diet, supplement, exercise, and stress manaagement plans to balance your body. I've even come to realize that if all these parameters are in balance, cancer can't grow, even if you have something like the BRCA mutation, cancer cannot grow without these imbalances to support it. It really is amazing stuff. But you see, if I told you what I am doing, it wouldn't necessarily help you, because you are different than I.

    Thanks for your reply. My
    Thanks for your reply. My sister knows a man in AL who runs tests, sells supplements, etc. However, he says it is useless to take his approach if one is going to undergo chemo/radiation, etc. He does do the testing to see what your body needs. So much confusing info. out there.
  • mom2greatkids
    mom2greatkids Member Posts: 528
    #7
    Tethys41 said:

    Treatment
    Carla,
    The important thing I have learned through working with my naturopath is that you can't treat every ovarian cancer patient the same and get consistantly good results. She runs a lot of tests on a new patient, to identify the imbalances within that person. From the results, she determines what will be beneficial for you specifically. So, she does some genetic tests, to see what is wired wrong. Then she does blood tests that show things like your risks related to blood sugar, or angiogenesis, or metastasis, or tendancy for cancer cells to stick together. The list goes on and on. But she will find the combination of things that need support in your body and then recommend diet, supplement, exercise, and stress manaagement plans to balance your body. I've even come to realize that if all these parameters are in balance, cancer can't grow, even if you have something like the BRCA mutation, cancer cannot grow without these imbalances to support it. It really is amazing stuff. But you see, if I told you what I am doing, it wouldn't necessarily help you, because you are different than I.

    Thanks for your reply. My
    Thanks for your reply. My sister knows a man in AL who runs tests, sells supplements, etc. However, he says it is useless to take his approach if one is going to undergo chemo/radiation, etc. He does do the testing to see what your body needs. So much confusing info. out there.
  • Tethys41
    Tethys41 Member Posts: 1,382 Member
    #8
    mom2greatkids said:

    Thanks for your reply. My
    Thanks for your reply. My sister knows a man in AL who runs tests, sells supplements, etc. However, he says it is useless to take his approach if one is going to undergo chemo/radiation, etc. He does do the testing to see what your body needs. So much confusing info. out there.

    Chemo
    Carla,
    My naturopath works with patients while they are undergoing treatment as well as women who want to stay in remission. The treatments she recommends during chemo are aimed at making the chemo more effective and reducing the side effects. Essentially, they protect the healthy cells while weakening the cancer cells. I had these treatments during my first line chemo, and I believe they contributed to the outcome of my conventional treatment. If you can't find someone locally to work with, my naturopath works with patients long distance after an initial in-person visit. A number of women are doing that now and seem to be very happy with the process.
  • mom2greatkids
    mom2greatkids Member Posts: 528
    #9
    Tethys41 said:

    Chemo
    Carla,
    My naturopath works with patients while they are undergoing treatment as well as women who want to stay in remission. The treatments she recommends during chemo are aimed at making the chemo more effective and reducing the side effects. Essentially, they protect the healthy cells while weakening the cancer cells. I had these treatments during my first line chemo, and I believe they contributed to the outcome of my conventional treatment. If you can't find someone locally to work with, my naturopath works with patients long distance after an initial in-person visit. A number of women are doing that now and seem to be very happy with the process.

    I am in Mississippi. I
    I am in Mississippi. I googled, but could not find one in my area. Any suggestions? I think I really want to investigate this.

    thank you so much

    Carla
  • mom2greatkids
    mom2greatkids Member Posts: 528
    #10
    Tethys41 said:

    Chemo
    Carla,
    My naturopath works with patients while they are undergoing treatment as well as women who want to stay in remission. The treatments she recommends during chemo are aimed at making the chemo more effective and reducing the side effects. Essentially, they protect the healthy cells while weakening the cancer cells. I had these treatments during my first line chemo, and I believe they contributed to the outcome of my conventional treatment. If you can't find someone locally to work with, my naturopath works with patients long distance after an initial in-person visit. A number of women are doing that now and seem to be very happy with the process.

    I spoke with one in Little
    I spoke with one in Little Rock, ARK. She's 200 miles away. She's licensed in Oregon, as ARK does not license naturopaths. I may go for a consultation in the near future. She told me that she would work completely with my doctor and his staff. Her husband takes trips to China, so Chinese herbs are sometimes used as well as acapunture.
  • Tethys41
    Tethys41 Member Posts: 1,382 Member
    #11
    mom2greatkids said:

    I spoke with one in Little
    I spoke with one in Little Rock, ARK. She's 200 miles away. She's licensed in Oregon, as ARK does not license naturopaths. I may go for a consultation in the near future. She told me that she would work completely with my doctor and his staff. Her husband takes trips to China, so Chinese herbs are sometimes used as well as acapunture.

    Naturopath
    Carla,
    She sounds like a good possibility. Ask her if she has experience working with ovarian cancer patients. Also ask her what tests she uses and what treatments she will recommend. If you want I can take a look at what she does to see if she appears to be using similar protocol to my naturpath. It's not unusual for a naturopath to hold a license in another state. Mine is licensed in Washington, but Colorado does not license naturopaths, so she is not licensed here.
  • mom2greatkids
    mom2greatkids Member Posts: 528
    #12
    Tethys41 said:

    Naturopath
    Carla,
    She sounds like a good possibility. Ask her if she has experience working with ovarian cancer patients. Also ask her what tests she uses and what treatments she will recommend. If you want I can take a look at what she does to see if she appears to be using similar protocol to my naturpath. It's not unusual for a naturopath to hold a license in another state. Mine is licensed in Washington, but Colorado does not license naturopaths, so she is not licensed here.

    Unfortunately she has not
    Unfortunately she has not worked with an ovarian cancer patient as of yet. She said that she would go by my medical records. I wish I could find one with experience with OVCA. I supposed that a long distance consultation is out of question?
  • Tethys41
    Tethys41 Member Posts: 1,382 Member
    #13
    mom2greatkids said:

    Unfortunately she has not
    Unfortunately she has not worked with an ovarian cancer patient as of yet. She said that she would go by my medical records. I wish I could find one with experience with OVCA. I supposed that a long distance consultation is out of question?

    Consultation
    You can have a brief 15 minute phone consult for free. It will not get into the nuts and bolts of treatment, but may give you some idea of where she is coming from. She is required, by law, to see a patient face-to-face for her first visit. Then, all subsequent appointments can be done over the phone. A number of women have come for their first visit, and used it as a vacation. It is beautiful here.

    This is her website. You can take a look and see what you think:

    http://www.namastehealthcenter.com/
  • mom2greatkids
    mom2greatkids Member Posts: 528
    #14
    Tethys41 said:

    Consultation
    You can have a brief 15 minute phone consult for free. It will not get into the nuts and bolts of treatment, but may give you some idea of where she is coming from. She is required, by law, to see a patient face-to-face for her first visit. Then, all subsequent appointments can be done over the phone. A number of women have come for their first visit, and used it as a vacation. It is beautiful here.

    This is her website. You can take a look and see what you think:

    http://www.namastehealthcenter.com/

    I would love to be able to
    I would love to be able to go. Just don't know if finances would allow me to do so.
  • Kimtacular
    Kimtacular Member Posts: 2
    #15
    Dr. Joel D. Wallach
    Hi Carla,

    I am in desperate need to get in contact with Dr. Wallach. As I've read about him, he may have vital information regarding Cystic Fibrosis. I am 27 years old and have CF. I desperately need to speak to him, is there any way possible you can ask your daughter or her then roommate to see if they could provide an email or some way to reach out to him?

    You're help would be immensely appreciated!

    Sincerely,

    Kim
  • mom2greatkids
    mom2greatkids Member Posts: 528
    #16
    Kimtacular said:

    Dr. Joel D. Wallach
    Hi Carla,

    I am in desperate need to get in contact with Dr. Wallach. As I've read about him, he may have vital information regarding Cystic Fibrosis. I am 27 years old and have CF. I desperately need to speak to him, is there any way possible you can ask your daughter or her then roommate to see if they could provide an email or some way to reach out to him?

    You're help would be immensely appreciated!

    Sincerely,

    Kim

    I'll see what I can do :)

    I'll see what I can do :)
  • Kimtacular
    Kimtacular Member Posts: 2
    #17
    mom2greatkids said:

    I'll see what I can do :)

    I'll see what I can do :)

    OMG
    Thank you so much!
  • mopar
    mopar Member Posts: 1,972 Member
    #18
    I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTIONS
    This is a tough subject, but nonetheless well worth looking into. Being a 12+ year survivor, and having been through OVCA twice, I can understand all of your questions and concerns. Unfortunately, there are no easy answers. I am also in agreement with Tethys and others that that whatever sustenance God has provided for us is good. The bad news is that our foods, natural or otherwise, have gone through some mighty changes since the days of 'fresh and clean'. It's no secret that estrogen is present in everything from plastic to milk, and the list goes on. Our livestock, fruits, vegetables are not as 'pure' as they once were. There's no doubt that we all need extra help in the way of supplements, etc.

    My husband and I have always been 'health minded', so my journey opened the doors to new and additional research on our part. All I can say is you have to find what is for YOU, what you can afford, what you deem appropriate for your situation. While Black Cohosh and Red Clover are 'natural herbs', they are a no-no for OVCA patients. Flaxseed, and certain fruits are also to be used only occasionally. The list is endless. It can be overwhelming.

    Start simple - try to eat as 'clean' as possible. When available, use fresh fruits and vegetables. Keep your protein sources lean, such as skinless/range free poultry, and white fish. By the way, don't scrimp on protein - your body desperately needs it to heal and repair. Olive oil, in my opinion, IS good for you. So are walnuts and other nuts and seeds. Whole oats are a great 'health food', and yogurt (not the sugar-laden kind) will help to keep the good bacteria in your intestinal tract, very important for you. Vitamin C is the TOP supplement on my list. It keeps arteries healthy, as well as connective tissue, and your immune system. Filtered water, and lots of it, is important for your kidneys, liver, and more.

    Well, I could go on, but hopefully this has encouraged you not to get too overwhelmed. I wish you well on your hunt for a happy medium for you. And I continue to pray that someday the medical profession and the homeopathic profession will meet in the middle and glean all the valuable tools that they both have.

    Sending ((HUGS)) and Prayers - keep in touch!

    Monika

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