No treatment except mastectomy...

I'd like some HONEST answers from you please.

Do you ladies believe ... honestly believe ... that if you don't have chemo, or whatever other treatment the oncologists suggest, that you will die. Even if after your mastectomies they can find no trace left of cancer.....

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  • RozHopkins
    RozHopkins Member Posts: 578 Member
    Hi Annie
    Honestly there is no cut and dry answer to your question. I'm sure some live to a ripe old age who don't take follow up treatments and some get cancers connected to these same treatments in other parts of the body ie Tamoxifen can cause Ovarian and Uterus Cancer. I won't bore you with my details but one thing I know is after bilateral or single mastectomy (I have bilateral) one single cancer cell missed can travel into the chest area and start up somewhere else, ie bones, lung and organ cancers even the brain.......... Sorry scarey I know. Even with clear nodes, and successful surgery they never know if we are absolutely clear. Hence most of us do as much as on offer to reduce the chances but it is your choice. We trust the advice of our surgeons and oncologists and hope they are good at their jobs............... After four chemos it took me quite sometime to get over fatigue and indeed don't think I will ever have the same energy level as before, but then getting older and hard to know what is what any more. The chemo treatment was actually no problem. Irritating things like nail loss or near loss, mouth ulcers, lack of appetite, fatigue, I had a lot of arm jumping whilst asleep quite funny at the time, nearly gave myself a black eye. Good luck with whatever you decide, I wish you well.
  • smalldoggroomer
    smalldoggroomer Member Posts: 1,184
    I think it is a personal
    I think it is a personal decision for all of us. I had chemo and right side mastectomy the first time around. And after surgery they told me I was cancer free!! I did the chemo, surgery and rads. And My cancer still came back. Now I am back in treatment. I was also on tamoxifen. Now I will most likely be on chemo for the rest of my life. I want to do what ever it takes for me to live a long life with my family. But we all have to decide that for ourselves. I wish you all the best in your decisions. Your in my prayers Take care Kay,
  • Rague
    Rague Member Posts: 3,653 Member
    I am quite positive that if
    I am quite positive that if I had NOT done chemo before and after surgery and radiaction after that I would be dead today.

    You have to remember that not all breast cancers are the same and have the same prognosis. For IBC, chemo is necessary before surgery/mast.. It does not not form as a lump but as a 'nest' or in 'bands' so chemo is used to try to get it shrink and form a lump so that it can be gotten out.
  • lynn1950
    lynn1950 Member Posts: 2,570
    We know statistically that
    We know statistically that chemo and rads will reduce the chance of recurrence. Even with chemo and rads and Arimidex, I still had a 14% chance of my cancer returning. And even at 4 years out, my chance of recurrence is not 0. I know I am not a number; still I chose to do everything I can to cut my chances. Cancer is small, but mighty and can travel incognito to places in the body other than the surgery site. Also, some breast tissue may remain, even after a mastectomy. By not pursuing all the weapons in the arsenal, one's chances of recurrence are increased - chance that is not 100%. That said, a person has to weigh the potential negative consequences of chemo and rads....heart damage, another cancer...it's all a gamble. Thanks for bringing this up. xoxoxo Lynn
  • SIROD
    SIROD Member Posts: 2,194 Member
    NED Doesn't Really Mean That Much...
    I have been using online breast cancer forum since 1997. The discussion board I used is no longer available as they lost their funding many years ago. There was a lady who refused chemotherapy, didn't need radiation (or she refused it) and only had a mastectomy. She was a stage II. Her refusal stem from the fact that a niece died from over radiation for her breast cancer. We have Facebook now. This woman has never had a recurrence and is still doing well today. Lucky is what I call her. However, since we all know that cancer can return many, many years later, I would say, she really isn't out of the woods yet!

    Hope that helps. Whether one takes the treatments offered by the oncologist is a personal decision that each woman has to make for herself. There is no right or wrong.

    Oncologist are not gods of any kind and don't have crystal balls to help them sort out who will live or who will die. They suggest treatments according to what they learn from taking classes on the topics, their experience in treating patients, attending workshops,reading journals and etc.

    In my 18th+ year since diagnose and am stage IV. I do everything that is offered to keep me on planet earth as long as possible.

    Having no trace of cancer doesn't mean anything. A malignant cell can go dormant for many years, biding it's time and can reappear without notice until the day, a dry cough is notice, a headache that doesn't respond to over the counter meds, a pain on the right side, a pain in the abdomen, a backache and then an MRI, a Ct or Bone scan shows "it's back".

    The decision is yours, Annie Therese to make and no one can decide for you.

    Best,

    Doris
  • Gabe N Abby Mom
    Gabe N Abby Mom Member Posts: 2,413
    Like Susan and Kay, my
    Like Susan and Kay, my cancer is IBC. I'm also triple negative. These are incredibly aggressive forms of BC. Like Susan, I am sure that I would be dead today if I hadn't done chemo, surgery, then rads.

    And like Kay, my cancer came back so I've been battling this beast 2 years. Sometimes even when we do everything, it still comes back. It's not something I have control over. It's going to come back or it's not, and we don't have a crystal ball.

    As everyone has said, your treatment plan is a VERY personal decision. Each time there has been a decision to make in my treatment, I have always taken the most aggressive choice. I never wanted to look back with regrets. Again, you have to look at the risks and benefits and make your decision. It is an incredibly difficult choice to make. Whatever you decide, I wish you peace with your choice.

    Hugs,

    Linda
  • cathyp
    cathyp Member Posts: 376 Member

    Like Susan and Kay, my
    Like Susan and Kay, my cancer is IBC. I'm also triple negative. These are incredibly aggressive forms of BC. Like Susan, I am sure that I would be dead today if I hadn't done chemo, surgery, then rads.

    And like Kay, my cancer came back so I've been battling this beast 2 years. Sometimes even when we do everything, it still comes back. It's not something I have control over. It's going to come back or it's not, and we don't have a crystal ball.

    As everyone has said, your treatment plan is a VERY personal decision. Each time there has been a decision to make in my treatment, I have always taken the most aggressive choice. I never wanted to look back with regrets. Again, you have to look at the risks and benefits and make your decision. It is an incredibly difficult choice to make. Whatever you decide, I wish you peace with your choice.

    Hugs,

    Linda

    I can only hope that the
    I can only hope that the cancer will not return. It's been almost 5 years since my dbl mx, no other treatment for stage 1 IDC. My oncologist reminds me, a good diet and exercise can be as effective as tamoxifen for some, as this was not an option for me. My LT Effect Specialist says that I can put the BC dx behind me. So, I'm hoping and taking care of my body.
  • debsweb18
    debsweb18 Member Posts: 191 Member
    Hi Annie
    I had IDC ER+ PR+ Grade 1, stage 2. I had a very small tumor in one lymph node. After a lumptectomy, my margins weren't clear so I had a unilateral mastectomy. I had an Oncotype Dx test done. My score was 9 which means my tumor is slow growing and I have a low chance of it coming back. Chemo wouldn't have been much of a benefit for me. I did have radiation due to the small tumor in the lymph node. They did 6 final directed boosts of radiation to the incision site. They said it sometimes comes back at the incision site.

    Of course there's no guarantee. In fact, if mine were to come back, being so slow growing, it would probably be after 10 or 15 years. So I'll never feel like I'm out of the woods.

    Like everyone else has said, each cancer is different.

    Good luck with your decision.