Liver pain
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Had no pain
I had no pain when I had a liver met, nor did I have pain in the liver after resection. If you google 'does the liver feel pain' you'll find the liver has no nerves, so no pain BUT the sac surrounding the liver does and if the liver swells and pushes against the sac, there can/ will be pain. An enlarged liver can also push against the rib cage and cause discomfort both there and in the shoulder blade area.
Needle guided biopsies are being questioned at the bigger hospitals due to possible 'seeding' of cancer cells into surround areas. My tumor was on the back of my liver. I got 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th opinions from a 2nd onc, MD Anderson, University at Chicago and Sloan Kettering before refusing a needle guided biopsy. All 4 disagreed with my local onc and liver surgeon regarding the need and safety.
I would think a liver met, which could be surgically removed with curative intent, would be a better dx than mets to the peritoneum which would call for HIPEC (according to my limited knowledge of those things).0 -
NervesPatchAdams said:Had no pain
I had no pain when I had a liver met, nor did I have pain in the liver after resection. If you google 'does the liver feel pain' you'll find the liver has no nerves, so no pain BUT the sac surrounding the liver does and if the liver swells and pushes against the sac, there can/ will be pain. An enlarged liver can also push against the rib cage and cause discomfort both there and in the shoulder blade area.
Needle guided biopsies are being questioned at the bigger hospitals due to possible 'seeding' of cancer cells into surround areas. My tumor was on the back of my liver. I got 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th opinions from a 2nd onc, MD Anderson, University at Chicago and Sloan Kettering before refusing a needle guided biopsy. All 4 disagreed with my local onc and liver surgeon regarding the need and safety.
I would think a liver met, which could be surgically removed with curative intent, would be a better dx than mets to the peritoneum which would call for HIPEC (according to my limited knowledge of those things).
My onc told me pretty much the same thing, that there are no nerves in the liver so I wouldn't have any pain from the mets. Nonetheless, occasionally I'll get a sudden sharp stabbing pain in that general area and wonder if it's one of the mets.0 -
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Hi Sharon
It wasn't liver pain - but it was pain from the biopsy site. The goofball that worked on me dug in there about 7-8 times to try and get samples...he futzed it up pretty good apparently.
One night I went to lay down and ran my hand around the insertion point of the needle into the liver...there was a huge marble sized knot sticking out of my chest - very sensitive to the touch and it hurt badly.
This has gone on for 3-years...I've now noticed that the knot has shrunk quite a bit and portrudes only slightly from the liver area...you can still the damage, I'm sure it will always be there.
Just if the spot finally goes away - stays the same - or gets bigger again.
I can't remember what the onc called it...but anyway, I had it.
-Craig0 -
Biopsy owieSundanceh said:Yep...
Hi Sharon
It wasn't liver pain - but it was pain from the biopsy site. The goofball that worked on me dug in there about 7-8 times to try and get samples...he futzed it up pretty good apparently.
One night I went to lay down and ran my hand around the insertion point of the needle into the liver...there was a huge marble sized knot sticking out of my chest - very sensitive to the touch and it hurt badly.
This has gone on for 3-years...I've now noticed that the knot has shrunk quite a bit and portrudes only slightly from the liver area...you can still the damage, I'm sure it will always be there.
Just if the spot finally goes away - stays the same - or gets bigger again.
I can't remember what the onc called it...but anyway, I had it.
-Craig
I woke up briefly during my biopsy and saw the doc pumping a needle up and down into me. I started to ask if he'd hit oil yet but was out again before I could say anything. After I woke up it hurt all around my chest worse than when my old horse managed to kick me in the ribs.0 -
Hi Sharon
I was told that the pain comes from the tissues that encase the liver, not the liver itself. When tumors begin to press on the tissue, the pain occurs.0 -
No liver pain
Don't have liver mets pain but like others have said areas around the liver will have pains. Pray your pain goes away. Jeff0 -
Thanks
Thanks for all your replies. Much appreciated. I read the CT scan report today and the peritoneal met(s) on top of my liver has grown since April (I was told but had to read it for myself). That would make sense that I have pain in that area considering that I now know the sac has nerves. I was semi-awake during the CT guided biopsy and it was a cluster from the beginning. I could go on about it but that's water under the bridge. The good part was the radiologist was able to take a good look and that's how it was determined that it was a "pimple" on the sac surrounding my liver. Of course there are other lesions in the entire sac but this one seems to be the biggest.
My best to all :-)0
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