diet

sputnik3
sputnik3 Member Posts: 2
in Kidney Cancer #1
hi I'm 11 days out from right Kidney removal hope to get some diet ideas

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  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181 Member
    #2
    diet
    All I can say is that things like beer and pizza never tasted soooo good! I'm enjoying everything. My blood work keeps coming back good, so my single kidney is happy. Only real change I've made is that I cut out all added salt.
  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    #3
    Welcome to the club...
    Hi sputnik3,

    I bet joining this little club has sent your spirits and emotions in orbit...sorry I just couldn't resist. Regarding diet, most of us try to reduce sodium and protein because over the long term your remaining kidney will be healthier, a little splurge now and then won't hurt you. Watching your blood pressure and drinking plenty of water are good things to practice, life's pretty "normal" beyond that.

    One more thought, there have been some healthy discussions (excuse the pun) on the benefits of Vitamix machines. Just type Vitamix in the search box above and you'll find them.

    Keep us posted on your progress,

    Gary
  • Phoenix Rising
    Phoenix Rising Member Posts: 170
    #4
    Eat healthy, lots of water
    No doctor/ oncologist told me that sugar and salt were not good for the kidneys, I found that information on my own. Since I only have one kidney now and I want to protect it, I decided to drop all refined sugar and use only sea salt. I also became vegetarian, stopped eating processed foods, and started juicing. Looking at me, you would not know I have stage 4 RCC, I look great! My skin is clear, my blood pressure dropped from 120/80 to 105/65, and I am healthier now than I was before I was diagnosed. Now that I have stopped eating sugar, I can quickly recognize dishes that have sugar when you would think they do not. A forkful of cake illicits a sour face, and I wonder how I ever ate cake and pastries and the like-- they are far too sweet for my tastebuds now.

    I do have a Vitamix blender and it is a God-send. It is quick and easy enough that I juice 2-3 times per day. I was, at first, using a Jack Lallane juicer but it was a bear to clean, and separates the much needed fiber from the juice. The Vitamix grinds the fiber fine enough that you can drink it.
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    #5
    Phoenix Rising said:

    Eat healthy, lots of water
    No doctor/ oncologist told me that sugar and salt were not good for the kidneys, I found that information on my own. Since I only have one kidney now and I want to protect it, I decided to drop all refined sugar and use only sea salt. I also became vegetarian, stopped eating processed foods, and started juicing. Looking at me, you would not know I have stage 4 RCC, I look great! My skin is clear, my blood pressure dropped from 120/80 to 105/65, and I am healthier now than I was before I was diagnosed. Now that I have stopped eating sugar, I can quickly recognize dishes that have sugar when you would think they do not. A forkful of cake illicits a sour face, and I wonder how I ever ate cake and pastries and the like-- they are far too sweet for my tastebuds now.

    I do have a Vitamix blender and it is a God-send. It is quick and easy enough that I juice 2-3 times per day. I was, at first, using a Jack Lallane juicer but it was a bear to clean, and separates the much needed fiber from the juice. The Vitamix grinds the fiber fine enough that you can drink it.

    Diet
    Phoenix, you've made valuable contributions on the IL2 thread and here but we need more! Don't be coy - you say you look great, so please treat us to a picture (not necessarily of Phoenix rising, though I'm sure that would be nice!).

    You're obviously very forthright and don't do things by halves. I'm just about to go and Vitamix a smoothie for my Wife and myself and your testimony to virtue rewarded makes me inclined to tweak my diet a little bit more. (Note all of this, Fox!) Your commitment reminds me strongly of "myboys2" who similarly took the bull by the horns for her son Cody and the move to a dramatically more healthy, plant-based diet obviously has a lot to commend it.

    Here (UK) I've seen a couple of interesting items in the last day or so. A cardiologist a couple of hours ago stated that it's reckoned that lack of exercise is now killing more people worldwide than smoking is! Have you always been as committed to sport and exercise as you now are to a healthy diet?

    The other item was about food-labelling here. It exposed the inefficacy of our government-inspired "5-a-day" campaign (i.e. at least 5 items of fruit/veg per day) which has, predictably, been totally subverted and destroyed by the (processed) food industry. The latter has, disgustingly, recently succeeded in sinking the initiative to replace our ridiculous food-labelling arrangements with a "traffic-light" scheme in which foods would be classified into good bad and indifferent by colour-coding according to e.g. their sugar, salt, omega6 content. An obvious merit of your radical approach is that it side-steps all of these considerations by totally eschewing these processed food "products".

    I hope you'll stick to your expressed aim (on the IL2 thread) of continuing to post such informative and inspiring messages here.
  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181 Member
    #6
    Texas_wedge said:

    Diet
    Phoenix, you've made valuable contributions on the IL2 thread and here but we need more! Don't be coy - you say you look great, so please treat us to a picture (not necessarily of Phoenix rising, though I'm sure that would be nice!).

    You're obviously very forthright and don't do things by halves. I'm just about to go and Vitamix a smoothie for my Wife and myself and your testimony to virtue rewarded makes me inclined to tweak my diet a little bit more. (Note all of this, Fox!) Your commitment reminds me strongly of "myboys2" who similarly took the bull by the horns for her son Cody and the move to a dramatically more healthy, plant-based diet obviously has a lot to commend it.

    Here (UK) I've seen a couple of interesting items in the last day or so. A cardiologist a couple of hours ago stated that it's reckoned that lack of exercise is now killing more people worldwide than smoking is! Have you always been as committed to sport and exercise as you now are to a healthy diet?

    The other item was about food-labelling here. It exposed the inefficacy of our government-inspired "5-a-day" campaign (i.e. at least 5 items of fruit/veg per day) which has, predictably, been totally subverted and destroyed by the (processed) food industry. The latter has, disgustingly, recently succeeded in sinking the initiative to replace our ridiculous food-labelling arrangements with a "traffic-light" scheme in which foods would be classified into good bad and indifferent by colour-coding according to e.g. their sugar, salt, omega6 content. An obvious merit of your radical approach is that it side-steps all of these considerations by totally eschewing these processed food "products".

    I hope you'll stick to your expressed aim (on the IL2 thread) of continuing to post such informative and inspiring messages here.

    diet
    ....but I did drink a glass of V-8 and take my vitamins this morning.......
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    #7
    foxhd said:

    diet
    ....but I did drink a glass of V-8 and take my vitamins this morning.......

    Diet
    How many times do I have to tell you to lay off drinking that engine oil!
  • Phoenix Rising
    Phoenix Rising Member Posts: 170
    #8
    Texas_wedge said:

    Diet
    Phoenix, you've made valuable contributions on the IL2 thread and here but we need more! Don't be coy - you say you look great, so please treat us to a picture (not necessarily of Phoenix rising, though I'm sure that would be nice!).

    You're obviously very forthright and don't do things by halves. I'm just about to go and Vitamix a smoothie for my Wife and myself and your testimony to virtue rewarded makes me inclined to tweak my diet a little bit more. (Note all of this, Fox!) Your commitment reminds me strongly of "myboys2" who similarly took the bull by the horns for her son Cody and the move to a dramatically more healthy, plant-based diet obviously has a lot to commend it.

    Here (UK) I've seen a couple of interesting items in the last day or so. A cardiologist a couple of hours ago stated that it's reckoned that lack of exercise is now killing more people worldwide than smoking is! Have you always been as committed to sport and exercise as you now are to a healthy diet?

    The other item was about food-labelling here. It exposed the inefficacy of our government-inspired "5-a-day" campaign (i.e. at least 5 items of fruit/veg per day) which has, predictably, been totally subverted and destroyed by the (processed) food industry. The latter has, disgustingly, recently succeeded in sinking the initiative to replace our ridiculous food-labelling arrangements with a "traffic-light" scheme in which foods would be classified into good bad and indifferent by colour-coding according to e.g. their sugar, salt, omega6 content. An obvious merit of your radical approach is that it side-steps all of these considerations by totally eschewing these processed food "products".

    I hope you'll stick to your expressed aim (on the IL2 thread) of continuing to post such informative and inspiring messages here.

    Definitely committed to a great diet
    "Don't be coy - you say you look great, so please treat us to a picture (not necessarily of Phoenix rising, though I'm sure that would be nice!)."

    ~Oh behave yourself, Mr. Wedge! LOL!~

    I have always been committed to sport and excercise, but being committed to a healthy diet is new, and only started with the diagnosis. I didn't have a BAD diet, previously, but I was not conscientious because maintaining my weight through exercise seemed to be good enough. I ate processed foods, drank soda, and bottled and canned juices, I ate McDonald's fare, Burger King, cake and cookies at social gatherings, etc. Now, my diet is much more simple, although time consuming. I don't drink juice that isn't fresh pressed or blended, no oils except flax and coconut oil, no meat, salmon only, and the house is always stocked with fresh veggies. I snack on baby carrots as opposed to potato chips. It feels much better and my energy level is great.
  • flatlander
    flatlander Member Posts: 46
    #9
    Diet and 1.75 kidneys
    My partial nephrectomy was 'a bloody mess' for months but, they estimate about half of one kidney to three quarters is still good. The other kidney is intact. Either it is being away from booze for 6 months or the parts removed, but a rum and coke kicks my butt now. Never did a diet coke and rum hit me like it does now. In time my kidneys may re-adjust, but for now I am a cheap date.

    As for foods, I recently watched a documentary called "Forks over knives." Everyone should download or rent it. The basic point is eat more things that you can cut with a fork, namely veggies. It says we dont need as much protien and dairy as we were told growing up. Also it uses data from China's nationwide study in 1970's to prove that the more animal protiens a population eats, the more cancers it gets.

    So for me I am drinking booze less often and less amounts. I am drinking water more and eating less meat and almost no red meat. My MD said dont worry about too much, just enjoy life and dont o.d. on protiens if possible.

    On that note I have been at the fire house since Monday morning and so far have eaten well except for a cheese pizza and lots of coffee. Today is salad with tuna fish. Stay positive people life is short. If you dont believe me, come ride your local ambulance fore a few days...

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