Got my new chemo plan, today....

phrannie51
phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
For the next three cycles I'll be getting Cisplatin at 80% of my past doses...and I will have a 5FU pump for the 4 days following the Cispatin infusion...then off for 3 weeks.

I've lost a total of 5 lbs during the first part of treatment, my Onc says that is great...even tho that puts me at 88 lbs, it's almost unheard of so he was pleased...He wants me to have another week off of treatments, to get stronger...so the chemo I thought I'd be getting today has been put off till next Tuesday.

Now...all of you who did the 5FU...how was that? Cisplatin can be nasty for sure, but he seems to think that 5FU is easier to handle....was it?

p

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  • ditto1
    ditto1 Member Posts: 660
    I am
    unable to offer any information that you already dont know, others will as we know come along to answer your questions. Just wanted to say hey and continue doing what you have done so well and thats kicking the Beast Butt.
  • CivilMatt
    CivilMatt Member Posts: 4,724 Member
    good luck
    Hi phrannie51,

    I am from Camp Erbitux so all I can offer is GOOD LUCK, you will do fine. I weighed 88lbs once.

    Best,

    Matt
  • Tim6003
    Tim6003 Member Posts: 1,514 Member
    CivilMatt said:

    good luck
    Hi phrannie51,

    I am from Camp Erbitux so all I can offer is GOOD LUCK, you will do fine. I weighed 88lbs once.

    Best,

    Matt

    Camp Erbitux too..
    yep...not in my treatments so I can't share ....someone will soon.

    Keep us posted!!

    Best,

    Tim
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Hard To Say
    I had 5FU strapped on me each of the three cycles during the nine weeks.

    It is just kind of a mind game you have to get into...

    I felt I wasn't doing anything with the pump strapped on squirting chemo in you every 30 seconds or so.

    But on a positive note, just think of it as a continual bombardment to the cancer..hitting it with a dose of poison everytime it tries to recover.

    The hard part was taking a shower, so I opted for long soaks in the tub... It seems to cause you to emit an odor....LOL, smelt like cat urine to me.

    But my wife just said I smelled like a big medicine bag, especially during the hot tub soaks...a big medicimal T-Bag.

    It was always good to go in Friday morning and have it taken off, and usually a bag of fluids for hydration.

    I also lost my taste for that week, either the Cisplatin, Taxotere or 5FU...or combination.

    OH, also you know already, stay very well hydrated, especially the week of 5FU.

    JG
  • phrannie51
    phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
    Skiffin16 said:

    Hard To Say
    I had 5FU strapped on me each of the three cycles during the nine weeks.

    It is just kind of a mind game you have to get into...

    I felt I wasn't doing anything with the pump strapped on squirting chemo in you every 30 seconds or so.

    But on a positive note, just think of it as a continual bombardment to the cancer..hitting it with a dose of poison everytime it tries to recover.

    The hard part was taking a shower, so I opted for long soaks in the tub... It seems to cause you to emit an odor....LOL, smelt like cat urine to me.

    But my wife just said I smelled like a big medicine bag, especially during the hot tub soaks...a big medicimal T-Bag.

    It was always good to go in Friday morning and have it taken off, and usually a bag of fluids for hydration.

    I also lost my taste for that week, either the Cisplatin, Taxotere or 5FU...or combination.

    OH, also you know already, stay very well hydrated, especially the week of 5FU.

    JG

    So does the fanny pack attach to the port?
    If that's the case, I can't take a shower for the four days it's attached...Lovely, especially if my nose gets funky and I think I smell like cat pee...LOL.

    Does the pump make noise? Was it hard to sleep with it on?

    p
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member

    So does the fanny pack attach to the port?
    If that's the case, I can't take a shower for the four days it's attached...Lovely, especially if my nose gets funky and I think I smell like cat pee...LOL.

    Does the pump make noise? Was it hard to sleep with it on?

    p

    5-FU
    Always assumed it was the Cisplatin that gave me the mega-blahs, but have also heard the 5-FU is not so easy. The F does stand for Flouride. Pump doesn't really make noise, though it seems there was a faint clicking sound I remember. I carried the two pumps, and think they're fairly uniform in their technology, etc. Be sure to have the phone number/info needed for when the 5-FU bag gets empty, and you have to turn-off the pump.

    You're doing great, Phrannie.

    kcass
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    5FU - Fluorouracil
    I always thought the FU stood for something else...but that's an entirely different story, involving Abi-Normal Humor....

    Kent, it only depressed me a little because of having it on, hearing it, and thinking I wasn't fighting on my own...but you get used to it...and I'm not a person that stays depressed or hets deeply depressed...more annoyed with the pump I guess, LOL.

    Yes the pump plugs into the port...

    But it has a long clear tube attached. It's in a fanny pack...which they told me (a 6' 250# man) that nobody would notice me wearing....

    I'm like ya right, I'll just blend in with those over-seas vacationers at Disney wearing black socks and sandles, and no deodorant.

    Anyways, the fanny pack on your waist, and the tube under your shirt aren't noticeable at all.

    I did have to take care of the seat belt when driving, so I usually just unhooked it and set it on the console between the seats.

    Also, the advice that if you do have cats, be careful. The cats apparently like the smell of the 5FU and will/can chew the tube and get a good dose of chemo.

    I could hear mine pump about every 30 seconds, not lous, but noticeable to me mainly.

    Like Kent said, make sure they go over the instructions on how to clamp it off and turn it off.

    Somewhere late Thursday night, Friday morning, it'll run out. Then it will alarm...., you mainly just clamp it off, turn the machine off and go in that morning for it to be taken out, and your port flushed.

    Sleeping with it takes a little time... I usually slept on the couch and either had it on the coffee table next to me, or on the floor beside me (sleeping on my back or side).

    Live Strong Fondation on 5FU


    JG
  • phrannie51
    phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
    Skiffin16 said:

    5FU - Fluorouracil
    I always thought the FU stood for something else...but that's an entirely different story, involving Abi-Normal Humor....

    Kent, it only depressed me a little because of having it on, hearing it, and thinking I wasn't fighting on my own...but you get used to it...and I'm not a person that stays depressed or hets deeply depressed...more annoyed with the pump I guess, LOL.

    Yes the pump plugs into the port...

    But it has a long clear tube attached. It's in a fanny pack...which they told me (a 6' 250# man) that nobody would notice me wearing....

    I'm like ya right, I'll just blend in with those over-seas vacationers at Disney wearing black socks and sandles, and no deodorant.

    Anyways, the fanny pack on your waist, and the tube under your shirt aren't noticeable at all.

    I did have to take care of the seat belt when driving, so I usually just unhooked it and set it on the console between the seats.

    Also, the advice that if you do have cats, be careful. The cats apparently like the smell of the 5FU and will/can chew the tube and get a good dose of chemo.

    I could hear mine pump about every 30 seconds, not lous, but noticeable to me mainly.

    Like Kent said, make sure they go over the instructions on how to clamp it off and turn it off.

    Somewhere late Thursday night, Friday morning, it'll run out. Then it will alarm...., you mainly just clamp it off, turn the machine off and go in that morning for it to be taken out, and your port flushed.

    Sleeping with it takes a little time... I usually slept on the couch and either had it on the coffee table next to me, or on the floor beside me (sleeping on my back or side).

    Live Strong Fondation on 5FU


    JG

    Thank you John!!!
    I was having a hard time figuring out how this all worked...how a person would know when it ran out, and what to ask when they give it to me. My husband is a light sleeper and I didn't want the pump keeping him awake...you helped out a LOT!

    p
  • robinleigh
    robinleigh Member Posts: 297

    Thank you John!!!
    I was having a hard time figuring out how this all worked...how a person would know when it ran out, and what to ask when they give it to me. My husband is a light sleeper and I didn't want the pump keeping him awake...you helped out a LOT!

    p

    Logistics
    While Andy was on 5 Fu he hung his pack from a nail next to the shower and he managed to shower really well. For sleeping he would place it right on the bedside table and there was never any problem. His pump was in a pack that crossed his body like a small purse but the fanny pack sounds much more user friendly. Good luck!!!
  • ooo
    ooo Member Posts: 105
    Hi Phran,
    just wanted to say

    Hi Phran,

    just wanted to say that you're always in my thoughts! :)

    Dre.
  • Laralyn
    Laralyn Member Posts: 532
    Nothing helpful to add...
    ...since my treatment didn't include secondary chemo, but I just wanted to tell you that I'll be thinking of you! I hope the second round is effortless and uneventful. :-)

    It's funny how the treatment plans can vary even for the same cancer--at least I thought we had the same? Mine was (determined to use the past tense here!) SCC in the tonsil and palate, HPV+ (strongly), stage 4.
  • CajunEagle
    CajunEagle Member Posts: 408

    Thank you John!!!
    I was having a hard time figuring out how this all worked...how a person would know when it ran out, and what to ask when they give it to me. My husband is a light sleeper and I didn't want the pump keeping him awake...you helped out a LOT!

    p

    5-FU pump
    If I remember correctly it makes a relatively quiet "swish" sound when it's pumping the poison in you. For body cleansing, I ended up placing the pack on a chair just on the side of the tub and sort of soaked....missed my showers. Oncologist told me a story during my instructions for the infusion of the 5-FU. Back swamp patient called and said the battery must be out, because the pump had stopped after only two days. Oncologist told him, "Well, just cut it off". Patient took scissors and "cut it off" up around the port. Weird folks.

    Larry
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member

    5-FU pump
    If I remember correctly it makes a relatively quiet "swish" sound when it's pumping the poison in you. For body cleansing, I ended up placing the pack on a chair just on the side of the tub and sort of soaked....missed my showers. Oncologist told me a story during my instructions for the infusion of the 5-FU. Back swamp patient called and said the battery must be out, because the pump had stopped after only two days. Oncologist told him, "Well, just cut it off". Patient took scissors and "cut it off" up around the port. Weird folks.

    Larry

    LOL....
    He probably cuts the lights off and night before bed also....

    JG
  • phrannie51
    phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
    Laralyn said:

    Nothing helpful to add...
    ...since my treatment didn't include secondary chemo, but I just wanted to tell you that I'll be thinking of you! I hope the second round is effortless and uneventful. :-)

    It's funny how the treatment plans can vary even for the same cancer--at least I thought we had the same? Mine was (determined to use the past tense here!) SCC in the tonsil and palate, HPV+ (strongly), stage 4.

    Laralyn....I had
    NPC Stage III...behind the nose tumor (I'll use the past tense, also...since the tumor is gone :))...I never had any surgury just the rads and this long, long chemo treatment.

    p
  • katenorwood
    katenorwood Member Posts: 1,912

    Laralyn....I had
    NPC Stage III...behind the nose tumor (I'll use the past tense, also...since the tumor is gone :))...I never had any surgury just the rads and this long, long chemo treatment.

    p

    Thinking of you !
    Phrannie,
    You are itsy bitsy...I am losing but not near what I'm hearing on site. You are a fighter and such an inspiration...including your humor. Just letting you know I'm thinking of you....and hope things go fast, and you feel better soon ! Katie
  • jim and i
    jim and i Member Posts: 1,788 Member
    Jim was cisplatin and eritox
    Jim was cisplatin and eritox so can't help with the questions. Just wanted you to know I am praying for you.

    Debbie
  • Laralyn
    Laralyn Member Posts: 532

    Laralyn....I had
    NPC Stage III...behind the nose tumor (I'll use the past tense, also...since the tumor is gone :))...I never had any surgury just the rads and this long, long chemo treatment.

    p

    Ah, makes sense
    Well, I hope the next phase goes easily for you! Hopefully it will pass quickly and it can happen as you're healing from rads. :-)
  • Greend
    Greend Member Posts: 678
    jim and i said:

    Jim was cisplatin and eritox
    Jim was cisplatin and eritox so can't help with the questions. Just wanted you to know I am praying for you.

    Debbie

    THE PUMP
    I too had the pump and as others have said you can just place it on a chair by the tub when you take a bath. You get used to the PSSST sound and while it is an aggrevation, it isn't the worst thing you will ever have to do. I never did know if my misery was from the 5FU, DDP (Cisplatin) or the rads but always felt the 5FU was the lesser of the three--- can't back that up other than when I was off of ot I still felt like crap.

    You will do fine.

    Denny