Hormones seems to work

SOPHIE333
SOPHIE333 Member Posts: 92
in Peritoneal Cancer #1
Hi all,
I promised a person on the board to come back with news on mums treatment with hormones. She is having the same kind of hormones as women are given when in going into menopause. This seems to work for mum and she has been in remission and even been better off than with chemos since december 2011 on the hormones. We are really happy for her. Her CA numbers going down and she is far more energetic and being able to travel..! The homrones are actually shrinking her cancer nodels, yay. Next check-up is in Mars.

Anyone else only on hormones as treatment? What are your experiences?

Love,
Sophie

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  • westie66
    westie66 Member Posts: 642
    #2
    Hormone Therapy
    Hi: Can you tell us the names of these hormones? I didn't go on hormones so don't know them. Thanks!
    Cheryl
  • SOPHIE333
    SOPHIE333 Member Posts: 92
    #3
    westie66 said:

    Hormone Therapy
    Hi: Can you tell us the names of these hormones? I didn't go on hormones so don't know them. Thanks!
    Cheryl

    I will ask mum for name
    Hi Cheryl,
    Yes, I will ask mum for the name of the drug with hormones, could be useful to the board!
    Sophie
  • Dianna9
    Dianna9 Member Posts: 11
    #4
    hormones
    Hi I am new here but I do use a progesterone cream because that is the only hormone that cancer does not consume,it is actually supposed to help fight cancer cells. I also use a product called Dims plus for estrogen metabolism
    just in case to knock out the estrogen. I have had a complete hysterectomy no ovaries nothing to produce it anymore except my adrenal glands so just trying to keep it in check.
    i take a lot of health products that have been proven around the world to help kill off cancer cells and keep healthy cells in tack.
    My oncologist told me that this ppc cancer does not feed on hormones, but I am trying to make sure I am not feeding it.
  • SOPHIE333
    SOPHIE333 Member Posts: 92
    #5
    westie66 said:

    Hormone Therapy
    Hi: Can you tell us the names of these hormones? I didn't go on hormones so don't know them. Thanks!
    Cheryl

    Hi Cheryl
    Finally I remembered the name of the hormone treatment. Sorry for keeping you waiting. Tamixofen, 20 mg/day. Mum takes only hormones at the moment and they are working really well i.e keeping the cancer steady at the moment.

    Love,
    Sophie
  • westie66
    westie66 Member Posts: 642
    #6
    Dianna9 said:

    hormones
    Hi I am new here but I do use a progesterone cream because that is the only hormone that cancer does not consume,it is actually supposed to help fight cancer cells. I also use a product called Dims plus for estrogen metabolism
    just in case to knock out the estrogen. I have had a complete hysterectomy no ovaries nothing to produce it anymore except my adrenal glands so just trying to keep it in check.
    i take a lot of health products that have been proven around the world to help kill off cancer cells and keep healthy cells in tack.
    My oncologist told me that this ppc cancer does not feed on hormones, but I am trying to make sure I am not feeding it.

    Hormones
    Thanks, Sophie. I checked on it and as my peritoneum cancer originated in the gallbladder, it is still gallbladder cancer and won't respond to hormones. Darn. But I've been approved by the cancer board for liver surgery to get rid of one little tumour there which hopefully will lead to peritoneum stripping and HIPEC after that.
    Cheryl
  • Bstrange
    Bstrange Member Posts: 87
    #7
    Sophie
    I just read your post and am interested in knowing more about the hormone treatment. I was diagnosed in 2007 with Ovarian/ Peritoneal Cancer. I am currently on my 4th type of chemo. I am tolerating it well, but the hormone therapy sounds interesting. Are you in the United States? Is your Mum on chemo drugs also?
    Thank you and please email me at boobuski@tampabay.rr.com
    My phone is 352-592-2227
    Barbara
  • SOPHIE333
    SOPHIE333 Member Posts: 92
    #8
    westie66 said:

    Hormones
    Thanks, Sophie. I checked on it and as my peritoneum cancer originated in the gallbladder, it is still gallbladder cancer and won't respond to hormones. Darn. But I've been approved by the cancer board for liver surgery to get rid of one little tumour there which hopefully will lead to peritoneum stripping and HIPEC after that.
    Cheryl

    Hi Cheryl
    Darn on the hormones but wow to possible HIPEC treatment. According to swedish specialist, this one is really working for extending survival (together with agressive surgery). So I hope it will turn out wounderful for you!

    Best regards,
    Sophie
  • LaundryQueen
    LaundryQueen Member Posts: 676
    #9
    Bstrange said:

    Sophie
    I just read your post and am interested in knowing more about the hormone treatment. I was diagnosed in 2007 with Ovarian/ Peritoneal Cancer. I am currently on my 4th type of chemo. I am tolerating it well, but the hormone therapy sounds interesting. Are you in the United States? Is your Mum on chemo drugs also?
    Thank you and please email me at boobuski@tampabay.rr.com
    My phone is 352-592-2227
    Barbara

    Anti-hormone treatment
    Sophie: your information about your mum's treatment is a little confusing--probably got mixed up by the doctor's choice of words. I feel compelled to set the record straight; you can do an Internet search to learn more about Tamoxifen. I guess some people consider it as hormone therapy but it is really anti-hormone therapy.

    Tamoxifen blocks the estrogen hormone receptor & is usually given to treat breast or prostate cancer. Tamoxifen isn't usually given to treat symptoms of menopause--the side effects of the Tamoxifen are similar to the symptoms of menopause.

    The rationale for using Tamoxifen is that estrogen is considered to be a growth-enhancing hormone--even if the cancer doesn't have a lot of estrogen + receptors, estrogen stimulates the growth of cancer somewhat. Menopausal women, hysterectomized women & men are producing estrogen out of the adrenal hormone DHEA.

    Testosterone is another potential source of estrogen as the enzyme aromatase converts testosterone to estrogen.

    Estrogen is stored in fat cells & released during weight loss. Prior to my cancer diagnosis, I lost 35 pounds. I still wonder if that was why my cancer was so aggressive. I had a blood test to check my estradiol level & I still have too much estrogen in my body. I'm taking the Di-indolemethane (DIM) supplement to clear estrogen out via my liver.

    I hope your mother continues to do well & thanks for the update.
  • SOPHIE333
    SOPHIE333 Member Posts: 92
    #10
    LaundryQueen said:

    Anti-hormone treatment
    Sophie: your information about your mum's treatment is a little confusing--probably got mixed up by the doctor's choice of words. I feel compelled to set the record straight; you can do an Internet search to learn more about Tamoxifen. I guess some people consider it as hormone therapy but it is really anti-hormone therapy.

    Tamoxifen blocks the estrogen hormone receptor & is usually given to treat breast or prostate cancer. Tamoxifen isn't usually given to treat symptoms of menopause--the side effects of the Tamoxifen are similar to the symptoms of menopause.

    The rationale for using Tamoxifen is that estrogen is considered to be a growth-enhancing hormone--even if the cancer doesn't have a lot of estrogen + receptors, estrogen stimulates the growth of cancer somewhat. Menopausal women, hysterectomized women & men are producing estrogen out of the adrenal hormone DHEA.

    Testosterone is another potential source of estrogen as the enzyme aromatase converts testosterone to estrogen.

    Estrogen is stored in fat cells & released during weight loss. Prior to my cancer diagnosis, I lost 35 pounds. I still wonder if that was why my cancer was so aggressive. I had a blood test to check my estradiol level & I still have too much estrogen in my body. I'm taking the Di-indolemethane (DIM) supplement to clear estrogen out via my liver.

    I hope your mother continues to do well & thanks for the update.

    Well
    I do not need to be so specific to you. Tamoxifen can be used for several purposes. I am educated in medicine myself so the picture you paint is not the whole picture. As the PPC has its connections with breast, colon and ovarian - the hormone treatment towards PPC is highly relevant and working fine for some patient, like mum. I feel that you shouldn´t write so mych and confuse others. Let them ask their doctor and get the treatment right for them. This is ordered by leading specialists in oncology and therefore a recommended treatment in my country.

    Sophie
  • LaundryQueen
    LaundryQueen Member Posts: 676
    #11
    SOPHIE333 said:

    Well
    I do not need to be so specific to you. Tamoxifen can be used for several purposes. I am educated in medicine myself so the picture you paint is not the whole picture. As the PPC has its connections with breast, colon and ovarian - the hormone treatment towards PPC is highly relevant and working fine for some patient, like mum. I feel that you shouldn´t write so mych and confuse others. Let them ask their doctor and get the treatment right for them. This is ordered by leading specialists in oncology and therefore a recommended treatment in my country.

    Sophie

    Sophie: I apologize
    Sophie: I apologize if I have irritated you. Please forgive me.

    OK, I suppose you could call Tamoxifen "hormone treatment" because it binds to estrogen receptors. I stand corrected on that point.

    In the US, women are not given Tamoxifen for pre-menopause or menopause UNLESS they also have an estrogen receptor + breast cancer, are at high risk for breast cancer or have some other gyn cancer (regardless of whether the cancer is hormone receptor or negative). Tamoxifen shuts down the estrogen receptors in the breast thereby rendering an "anti-hormone" effect for breast cancer. Here's more info: http://www.all-natural.com/tamox.html

    Most women in the US with ovarian cancer &/or peritoneal cancer are not even tested to see if their cancer has estrogen positive receptors. That's why I was explaining why doctors go ahead with anti-estrogen therapy (such as Tamoxifen or Arimidex) anyway. Was your mum tested? I'm glad to hear she is responding to therapy.

    Finally, I am NOT recommending for or against treatment to anyone--just over-explaining. Please forgive me for that, too.
  • Dianna9
    Dianna9 Member Posts: 11
    #12
    LaundryQueen said:

    Anti-hormone treatment
    Sophie: your information about your mum's treatment is a little confusing--probably got mixed up by the doctor's choice of words. I feel compelled to set the record straight; you can do an Internet search to learn more about Tamoxifen. I guess some people consider it as hormone therapy but it is really anti-hormone therapy.

    Tamoxifen blocks the estrogen hormone receptor & is usually given to treat breast or prostate cancer. Tamoxifen isn't usually given to treat symptoms of menopause--the side effects of the Tamoxifen are similar to the symptoms of menopause.

    The rationale for using Tamoxifen is that estrogen is considered to be a growth-enhancing hormone--even if the cancer doesn't have a lot of estrogen + receptors, estrogen stimulates the growth of cancer somewhat. Menopausal women, hysterectomized women & men are producing estrogen out of the adrenal hormone DHEA.

    Testosterone is another potential source of estrogen as the enzyme aromatase converts testosterone to estrogen.

    Estrogen is stored in fat cells & released during weight loss. Prior to my cancer diagnosis, I lost 35 pounds. I still wonder if that was why my cancer was so aggressive. I had a blood test to check my estradiol level & I still have too much estrogen in my body. I'm taking the Di-indolemethane (DIM) supplement to clear estrogen out via my liver.

    I hope your mother continues to do well & thanks for the update.

    Anto hormone treatmend
    Hi Laundry Queen
    I also had just lost 48 pounds just prior to my diagnosis.
    I also take Dims for the same reason.
    The progesterone creme I apply daily, it is the only rational reason I can figure that I am not as cold as everyone else I talked to. I do perspire at night a lot, so I sleep with a fan.
    Dianna
  • LaundryQueen
    LaundryQueen Member Posts: 676
    #13
    Dianna9 said:

    Anto hormone treatmend
    Hi Laundry Queen
    I also had just lost 48 pounds just prior to my diagnosis.
    I also take Dims for the same reason.
    The progesterone creme I apply daily, it is the only rational reason I can figure that I am not as cold as everyone else I talked to. I do perspire at night a lot, so I sleep with a fan.
    Dianna

    Weight loss
    Dianna: yeah, I really wonder if losing weight was such a good idea for me. I was never obese, just overweight after menopause. I thought losing weight would be a good idea for my health.

    Estrogens & estrogenic toxins (such as pesticides) are stored in fat cells. I think I dumped a bunch of junk into my system when I lost weight which could have triggered the cancer. I wonder about that.
  • Tina Brown
    Tina Brown Member Posts: 1,036 Member
    #14
    LaundryQueen said:

    Weight loss
    Dianna: yeah, I really wonder if losing weight was such a good idea for me. I was never obese, just overweight after menopause. I thought losing weight would be a good idea for my health.

    Estrogens & estrogenic toxins (such as pesticides) are stored in fat cells. I think I dumped a bunch of junk into my system when I lost weight which could have triggered the cancer. I wonder about that.

    Triggering cancer
    I truely believe that we all have dormant cancer cells in our bodies and they can be triggered off by something.

    I will start a new thread about this.

    Tina

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