biopsy tomarrow

littledarlin
littledarlin Member Posts: 102
in Kidney Cancer #1
I called radiology today and they have scheduled me for tomarrow..I guess things are going my way. I know I will still have to have surgery but wanted to have this test first. Next big step will be calling and scheduling my surgery..
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  • livealive
    livealive Member Posts: 127
    #2
    Biopsy
    Statistically too many false negatives, risk is too high, would not trust the biopsy...
  • littledarlin
    littledarlin Member Posts: 102
    #3
    livealive said:

    Biopsy
    Statistically too many false negatives, risk is too high, would not trust the biopsy...

    false negatives
    The doctor mentioned that. Just doing it for myself..He said he will still recommend surgery no matter what the results say but to go ahead and do it if it will make me feel better. I have had them in the past and have had no problems..Thanks for the info though..
  • livealive
    livealive Member Posts: 127
    #4
    littledarlin said:

    false negatives
    The doctor mentioned that. Just doing it for myself..He said he will still recommend surgery no matter what the results say but to go ahead and do it if it will make me feel better. I have had them in the past and have had no problems..Thanks for the info though..

    "Theoretical" Possibility
    The risk of touching something malignant - I don't like the risk of touching it - maybe cancel the biopsy - what's the point ?
  • MikeK703
    MikeK703 Member Posts: 235
    #5
    littledarlin said:

    false negatives
    The doctor mentioned that. Just doing it for myself..He said he will still recommend surgery no matter what the results say but to go ahead and do it if it will make me feel better. I have had them in the past and have had no problems..Thanks for the info though..

    Biopsy
    Littledarlin,
    I'm guessing that you want a biopsy because you are hoping it's not cancer. I agree with Raj that there's not much point in having a biopsy done if no matter what the results are your doctor is going to recommend a nephrectomy anyway. There is definitely a risk that cutting into the mass could spread the cancer cells if it is indeed cancerous. I wanted a biopsy also because I was concerned that I might be giving up a kidney for no reason. Thankfully, I couldn't have a biopsy because of the location of the mass. It was too risky. Now with a >90% survival estimate, I am glad I followed the doctor's advice. In any case, you will do what you feel is right. I hope all turns out well for you.
    Regards,
    Mike
  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181 Member
    #6
    MikeK703 said:

    Biopsy
    Littledarlin,
    I'm guessing that you want a biopsy because you are hoping it's not cancer. I agree with Raj that there's not much point in having a biopsy done if no matter what the results are your doctor is going to recommend a nephrectomy anyway. There is definitely a risk that cutting into the mass could spread the cancer cells if it is indeed cancerous. I wanted a biopsy also because I was concerned that I might be giving up a kidney for no reason. Thankfully, I couldn't have a biopsy because of the location of the mass. It was too risky. Now with a >90% survival estimate, I am glad I followed the doctor's advice. In any case, you will do what you feel is right. I hope all turns out well for you.
    Regards,
    Mike

    biopsy
    If you will have surgery anyway, I would say avoid the biopsy. Medically the argument would be to avoid the risk for infection.
  • littledarlin
    littledarlin Member Posts: 102
    #7
    foxhd said:

    biopsy
    If you will have surgery anyway, I would say avoid the biopsy. Medically the argument would be to avoid the risk for infection.

    Thanks Everyone..I will be ok...
    This is going to be a fine needle aspiration biopsy so there will be no major cutting involved so it should be ok. I have had them in the past..The doctor said not to worry about the biospy spreading any cancer or seeding. So I would like to remain as positive as possible for tomarrow. I am feeling good about this decision. I am hoping they do find cancer cells tomarrow that way I will feel a lot better about having surgery. I was told to bring a overnight bag just in case they decide to have me admitted..This is a cake walk compared to surgery..Don't worry I will be ok. My surgeron well be right there at the clinic/hospital
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    #8
    littledarlin said:

    Thanks Everyone..I will be ok...
    This is going to be a fine needle aspiration biopsy so there will be no major cutting involved so it should be ok. I have had them in the past..The doctor said not to worry about the biospy spreading any cancer or seeding. So I would like to remain as positive as possible for tomarrow. I am feeling good about this decision. I am hoping they do find cancer cells tomarrow that way I will feel a lot better about having surgery. I was told to bring a overnight bag just in case they decide to have me admitted..This is a cake walk compared to surgery..Don't worry I will be ok. My surgeron well be right there at the clinic/hospital

    Tomorrow
    If you have the courage and conviction to stand your ground like that then you're going to be fine whatever happens tomorrow.

    The main contraindication to biopsy is risk of a false negative which you've already taken into account. The theoretical risk of needle spread is a minor factor because the risk is very small.
  • littledarlin
    littledarlin Member Posts: 102
    #9
    Texas_wedge said:

    Tomorrow
    If you have the courage and conviction to stand your ground like that then you're going to be fine whatever happens tomorrow.

    The main contraindication to biopsy is risk of a false negative which you've already taken into account. The theoretical risk of needle spread is a minor factor because the risk is very small.

    Tomorrow Texas wedge
    Thank you so much Texas wedge for your positive support this evening..This is just what I needed tonight..The perfect medicine..Positive thinking at work..

    littledarlin...
  • j_rod
    j_rod Member Posts: 125
    #10
    littledarlin said:

    Tomorrow Texas wedge
    Thank you so much Texas wedge for your positive support this evening..This is just what I needed tonight..The perfect medicine..Positive thinking at work..

    littledarlin...

    i had it...
    I had the fine needle aspiration. Mine was positive for cancer. They had sent me to the radiology interventionist for a cryoablation not a biopsy. The RI guy did not push me one way or the other (for the surgery or a biopsy first). He did tell me what was involved with the cryo procedure - and the risks. Considering where my tumor is located, it would have been a mess to do a cryo - too close to the urether, stents put in to prevent damage, stents removed, possible damage to the ureter. He also gave me the risk of the biopsy, which he said was small.He did say the cancer did not look like the shape of a cancer. He took me to his office and showed me the pet scan and discussed what we were looking at. He said there was a possibility that it was an old hematoma. That made sense because while on vacation, I ended up at a go kart track - not kiddie go karts - but full sized FAST go karts. Coming around a hairpin turn, I couldn't hit the breaks in time, slammed into a wall, spun around and hit a concrete block wall. So I was hoping it was from that. Since this hospital could do a cryo or an open nephrectomy, but not a lap robotic, he was very good about giving me my options and possible risks. Even the urologist who had sent me to the RI recommended going to another hospital for a lap robotic. Considering that I often feel that hospitals are 'in it for the money' - this particular hospital and its staff were honest with me and told me they did not have the technology for what they were recommending. They made a referral to a highly rated hospital and doctor. My faith is somewhat restored - especially in the referring hospital. I haven't had my procedure yet, but I have heard good things about my doctor and his team.
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    #11
    j_rod said:

    i had it...
    I had the fine needle aspiration. Mine was positive for cancer. They had sent me to the radiology interventionist for a cryoablation not a biopsy. The RI guy did not push me one way or the other (for the surgery or a biopsy first). He did tell me what was involved with the cryo procedure - and the risks. Considering where my tumor is located, it would have been a mess to do a cryo - too close to the urether, stents put in to prevent damage, stents removed, possible damage to the ureter. He also gave me the risk of the biopsy, which he said was small.He did say the cancer did not look like the shape of a cancer. He took me to his office and showed me the pet scan and discussed what we were looking at. He said there was a possibility that it was an old hematoma. That made sense because while on vacation, I ended up at a go kart track - not kiddie go karts - but full sized FAST go karts. Coming around a hairpin turn, I couldn't hit the breaks in time, slammed into a wall, spun around and hit a concrete block wall. So I was hoping it was from that. Since this hospital could do a cryo or an open nephrectomy, but not a lap robotic, he was very good about giving me my options and possible risks. Even the urologist who had sent me to the RI recommended going to another hospital for a lap robotic. Considering that I often feel that hospitals are 'in it for the money' - this particular hospital and its staff were honest with me and told me they did not have the technology for what they were recommending. They made a referral to a highly rated hospital and doctor. My faith is somewhat restored - especially in the referring hospital. I haven't had my procedure yet, but I have heard good things about my doctor and his team.

    Patient care
    How refreshing to hear of such responsible and helpful professional care.

    The message here is how important it is to carefully consider the merits and demerits of any procedure and to be aware of as many options as possible.

    It sounds as though everything is set fair for you.

    By the way, you seem to have a pretty colourful life and to enjoy living on the edge! Such an adrenalin junkie should find the upcoming little episode a mere bagatelle!
  • j_rod
    j_rod Member Posts: 125
    #12
    Texas_wedge said:

    Patient care
    How refreshing to hear of such responsible and helpful professional care.

    The message here is how important it is to carefully consider the merits and demerits of any procedure and to be aware of as many options as possible.

    It sounds as though everything is set fair for you.

    By the way, you seem to have a pretty colourful life and to enjoy living on the edge! Such an adrenalin junkie should find the upcoming little episode a mere bagatelle!

    Colorful...
    yes. To say the least. I won't go into it here - there's not enough space :) Let's just say I can relate to Sponge Bob and where he is coming from ;) He is the poster child for us ADD or ADHD type people :)
  • j_rod
    j_rod Member Posts: 125
    #13
    Texas_wedge said:

    Patient care
    How refreshing to hear of such responsible and helpful professional care.

    The message here is how important it is to carefully consider the merits and demerits of any procedure and to be aware of as many options as possible.

    It sounds as though everything is set fair for you.

    By the way, you seem to have a pretty colourful life and to enjoy living on the edge! Such an adrenalin junkie should find the upcoming little episode a mere bagatelle!

    Colorful...
    yes. To say the least. I won't go into it here - there's not enough space :) Let's just say I can relate to Sponge Bob and where he is coming from ;) He is the poster child for us ADD or ADHD type people :)
  • j_rod
    j_rod Member Posts: 125
    #14
    Texas_wedge said:

    Patient care
    How refreshing to hear of such responsible and helpful professional care.

    The message here is how important it is to carefully consider the merits and demerits of any procedure and to be aware of as many options as possible.

    It sounds as though everything is set fair for you.

    By the way, you seem to have a pretty colourful life and to enjoy living on the edge! Such an adrenalin junkie should find the upcoming little episode a mere bagatelle!

    Colorful...
    yes. To say the least. I won't go into it here - there's not enough space :) Let's just say I can relate to Sponge Bob and where he is coming from ;) He is the poster child for us ADD or ADHD type people :)
  • j_rod
    j_rod Member Posts: 125
    #15
    Texas_wedge said:

    Patient care
    How refreshing to hear of such responsible and helpful professional care.

    The message here is how important it is to carefully consider the merits and demerits of any procedure and to be aware of as many options as possible.

    It sounds as though everything is set fair for you.

    By the way, you seem to have a pretty colourful life and to enjoy living on the edge! Such an adrenalin junkie should find the upcoming little episode a mere bagatelle!

    Colorful...
    yes. To say the least. I won't go into it here - there's not enough space :) Let's just say I can relate to Sponge Bob and where he is coming from ;) He is the poster child for us ADD or ADHD type people :)
  • j_rod
    j_rod Member Posts: 125
    #16
    Texas_wedge said:

    Patient care
    How refreshing to hear of such responsible and helpful professional care.

    The message here is how important it is to carefully consider the merits and demerits of any procedure and to be aware of as many options as possible.

    It sounds as though everything is set fair for you.

    By the way, you seem to have a pretty colourful life and to enjoy living on the edge! Such an adrenalin junkie should find the upcoming little episode a mere bagatelle!

    h

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  • MikeK703
    MikeK703 Member Posts: 235
    #17
    j_rod said:

    Colorful...
    yes. To say the least. I won't go into it here - there's not enough space :) Let's just say I can relate to Sponge Bob and where he is coming from ;) He is the poster child for us ADD or ADHD type people :)

    Stuttering
    Hey j_rod,
    The stuttering will stop if you only hit the "Post comment" button once and wait. Be patient. It will eventually take your post.
    Regards,
    Mike
  • littledarlin
    littledarlin Member Posts: 102
    #18
    MikeK703 said:

    Stuttering
    Hey j_rod,
    The stuttering will stop if you only hit the "Post comment" button once and wait. Be patient. It will eventually take your post.
    Regards,
    Mike

    New Thread??
    Hey Guys..Maybe you should start your own thread..Just got home from my biopsy and they were not able to get any tissue. So this was probably a total waste of time and it really hurt this time too..but who cares looks like we are just playing games here anyway. Let the games begin..

    Later..or Not..

    Little darlin..
  • icemantoo
    icemantoo Member Posts: 3,361 Member
    #19
    littledarlin said:

    New Thread??
    Hey Guys..Maybe you should start your own thread..Just got home from my biopsy and they were not able to get any tissue. So this was probably a total waste of time and it really hurt this time too..but who cares looks like we are just playing games here anyway. Let the games begin..

    Later..or Not..

    Little darlin..

    We tried to help
    littledarlin,

    For what it is worth all of us non medical people tried to add our 2 cents worth on whether the biopsy was necessary. For what its worth the surgery is necessary. Let the games begin.

    Icemantoo
  • MikeK703
    MikeK703 Member Posts: 235
    #20
    littledarlin said:

    New Thread??
    Hey Guys..Maybe you should start your own thread..Just got home from my biopsy and they were not able to get any tissue. So this was probably a total waste of time and it really hurt this time too..but who cares looks like we are just playing games here anyway. Let the games begin..

    Later..or Not..

    Little darlin..

    Biopsy
    Littledarlin,
    Sorry to hear your biopsy didn't work. Please continue to post and let us know how things are going. BTW, people DO care here and nobody is playing games. Sometimes threads do get off topic a little but please realize, even though our postings are not always serious we are all going through pretty much the same thing, and some worse than others. Certainly nobody here takes kidney cancer lightly.
    Mike
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    #21
    j_rod said:

    Colorful...
    yes. To say the least. I won't go into it here - there's not enough space :) Let's just say I can relate to Sponge Bob and where he is coming from ;) He is the poster child for us ADD or ADHD type people :)

    Sponge Bob
    Is Sponge Bob an American cultural hero? Education please!

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