External radiation - 1 week down, 4 1/2 to go - so far, uneventful

LizGrrr
LizGrrr Member Posts: 127 Member
After 3 rounds of carbo/taxol chemo for UPSC 1A, I started external radiation last week. Had to suffer some indignities for simulation/set up (my 'changing room' is a tech holding up a hand towel; got all sorts of markers inserted in the va-jay-jay with various techs in the room; had photos taken while half-naked lying on a table with a marker in the vaj) but nothing was physically uncomfortable and all the techs have been super.

Radiation is a daily thing. I go in to the treatment room, the tech holds up a towel, I pull my pants to my ankles, lie on a table, get zapped, pull up my pants and leave. The whole thing takes about 7 minutes and the staff is pretty punctual about the schedule.

One week in and so far no side effects. Doc says the side effects are cumulative, and will include sunburn-like burns on the three zap sites, fatigue and diarrhea. All should be temporary, and any diarrhea should be treatable with Immodium.

Since it's still early in the treatment, I went back to work today. I'm doing 6-hour days with the right to take more time off if things get bad later on. I'm still feeling good and energetic, and hope to remain that way :)

Liz in Dallas

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  • pakb56
    pakb56 Member Posts: 141
    My treatment protocol
    Liz...that is the schedule I am on but behind you. My second round of chemo is March 7. How long did you have to wait after your 3rd chemo before radiation started? 6 weeks, 5 days seems like forever!

    I hope you continue to feel well. Stay strong!

    Pat
  • imackie48
    imackie48 Member Posts: 96
    Why not

    Liz, is that called brachytherapy, that's what's recommend for me, after my chemo, what's the different?
    Irene
  • CindyGSD
    CindyGSD Member Posts: 190
    Hi Liz...
    Interesting you had to have something inserted up "there" for mapping. I didn't. It was pretty noninvasive other than pulling my pants down to my HIPS every day for treatment. I wonder why things are so different from doctor to doctor when we are all basically getting the same thing.

    I didn't have an issues with radiation other than more frequent bowl movements. Hopefully all will go well with you too.

    Take care,
    Cindy
  • CindyGSD
    CindyGSD Member Posts: 190
    imackie48 said:

    Why not

    Liz, is that called brachytherapy, that's what's recommend for me, after my chemo, what's the different?
    Irene

    Hi Irene...
    I can answer that since I've had both. Liz is referring to external radiation where the beam of radiation is sent threw the skin. Brachytherapy is internal where the radiation is actually put in your vaginal cuff, usually for 3 to 5 treatments. A lot more invasive, but the treatment is shorter and you usually have few if any side effects.

    Take care,
    Cindy
  • pakb56
    pakb56 Member Posts: 141
    CindyGSD said:

    Hi Liz...
    Interesting you had to have something inserted up "there" for mapping. I didn't. It was pretty noninvasive other than pulling my pants down to my HIPS every day for treatment. I wonder why things are so different from doctor to doctor when we are all basically getting the same thing.

    I didn't have an issues with radiation other than more frequent bowl movements. Hopefully all will go well with you too.

    Take care,
    Cindy

    Oh my...
    So much to look forward to! Keep smiling sisters!
  • jazzy1
    jazzy1 Member Posts: 1,379
    Liz
    Great to read about how well you're enduring the radiation. It's like anything, jump up and start the process and before you know it, you're out of radiation.

    Side affects, yes are cumulative. I found within 2 weeks the bowels were really fast. So fast, I needed to be close to a toilet. What really laid me low, was the fatigue. I'm a high energy type person, and I felt like it was everything I could do, getting out the door to run errands. When got home I was bushed. Was really a shock to me, but the best part, after radiation was over, I was back up and moving faster within a few months.

    Watch what you eat as well...I'm a raw fruit and vegie gal, had to limit this type food. Almost went to a canned or mashed type food diet, as did help the bowels to slow a bit.

    Just figure this is part of it and know the fast bowels do go away once treatment has ended.

    Best to you my friend~
    Jan
  • LizGrrr
    LizGrrr Member Posts: 127 Member
    pakb56 said:

    My treatment protocol
    Liz...that is the schedule I am on but behind you. My second round of chemo is March 7. How long did you have to wait after your 3rd chemo before radiation started? 6 weeks, 5 days seems like forever!

    I hope you continue to feel well. Stay strong!

    Pat

    Pat - schedule
    Hi Pat -

    I had chemo on December 12, January 3 and January 23. Had my post-chemo visit with the oncologist February 9 (about 2 1/2 weeks after the last chemo) where he recommended radiation and further chemo, had the radiation consult on February 13, the simulation on Feb 17, and started Monday Feb 20. I'll be done at the end of March, will have a 4-6 week break and then 3 more rounds of chemo.

    I should be done with everything around July 4th (Independence from Oncology Day!), which means it would be 8 1/2 months from diagnosis to treatment completion. When I put it like that all I think is 'wow'.

    Liz in Dallas
  • LizGrrr
    LizGrrr Member Posts: 127 Member
    CindyGSD said:

    Hi Liz...
    Interesting you had to have something inserted up "there" for mapping. I didn't. It was pretty noninvasive other than pulling my pants down to my HIPS every day for treatment. I wonder why things are so different from doctor to doctor when we are all basically getting the same thing.

    I didn't have an issues with radiation other than more frequent bowl movements. Hopefully all will go well with you too.

    Take care,
    Cindy

    Vaginal markers
    What a delightful subject line, haha!

    My doc recommended external radiation because my uterus and the UPSC tumor were morcellated during my hyserectomy, since at the time we had no clue the tumor was there and I was so far out of the classic profile of an at-risk-for-UPSC person. External is more generalized radiation than internal.

    I will be getting three special vaginally-directed radiation treatments after the first 5 weeks in recognition of the most-likely-to-recur location. Don't know if the markers were for that, but they were no big deal.

    Liz in Dallas
  • mac1
    mac1 Member Posts: 9
    LizGrrr said:

    Vaginal markers
    What a delightful subject line, haha!

    My doc recommended external radiation because my uterus and the UPSC tumor were morcellated during my hyserectomy, since at the time we had no clue the tumor was there and I was so far out of the classic profile of an at-risk-for-UPSC person. External is more generalized radiation than internal.

    I will be getting three special vaginally-directed radiation treatments after the first 5 weeks in recognition of the most-likely-to-recur location. Don't know if the markers were for that, but they were no big deal.

    Liz in Dallas

    Bratty Diet helps
    Hi Liz,
    I have two more pelvic region external radiation treatments left out of 33. The side effects are cummulative. My treatment was at 7:30am and most of my loose stools occured before the treatment and immediately after. I didn't start taking the immodium until my stools were loose. Then I limited my fruits and vegetables to the evening and kept them to a minimum. I had white bread with peanut butter in the morning and a banana. Lunch a sweet potatoe and yogurt. Dinner protein with starch and one vegie. My stools became more formed after minimizing the fruits and vegies. I had nausea bad for two days after a couple of weeks and it was coffee that caused it. Eliminated coffee and started drinking tea with lemon and ginger every morning or anytime I had a slight amount of nausea. Seemed to eliminate the nausea. The smell of the stools gets very bad after a couple of weeks and you may experience bad stinky gas. I drank a glass of water with Chlorofresh every day and that helped to reduce the smellyness. I did experience some fatigue towards the end of the week. I was able to go to work every day without any problems. Best wishes to you. I hope this helps you with your treatments.
  • LizGrrr
    LizGrrr Member Posts: 127 Member
    mac1 said:

    Bratty Diet helps
    Hi Liz,
    I have two more pelvic region external radiation treatments left out of 33. The side effects are cummulative. My treatment was at 7:30am and most of my loose stools occured before the treatment and immediately after. I didn't start taking the immodium until my stools were loose. Then I limited my fruits and vegetables to the evening and kept them to a minimum. I had white bread with peanut butter in the morning and a banana. Lunch a sweet potatoe and yogurt. Dinner protein with starch and one vegie. My stools became more formed after minimizing the fruits and vegies. I had nausea bad for two days after a couple of weeks and it was coffee that caused it. Eliminated coffee and started drinking tea with lemon and ginger every morning or anytime I had a slight amount of nausea. Seemed to eliminate the nausea. The smell of the stools gets very bad after a couple of weeks and you may experience bad stinky gas. I drank a glass of water with Chlorofresh every day and that helped to reduce the smellyness. I did experience some fatigue towards the end of the week. I was able to go to work every day without any problems. Best wishes to you. I hope this helps you with your treatments.

    Let the diarrhea begin!
    Another fabulous subject line :)

    I'm 2 weeks in, 3 1/2 to go. I'm a little more tired than last week but that's probably because I'm back at the office (it's been a mercifully quiet week which has been nice to ease into things).

    For the past week I've been a poop machine. I take a couple of Immodium every other day and that seems to control things, but the gas is pretty impressive. I'm also retaining enough water that I have a hard time wearing my rings - wonder if that's part of the Immodium regime. I'm avoiding raw fruits and veggies (wah) and drinking a lot of water. So far my skin is still good (a bit dry, but no big deal), too.

    According to my onc, radiation should drop my chances of recurrence from 65% to 50% which I'm calculating at 0.5% reduction per treatment. That means I've already reduced my chances of recurrence 5%!

    Liz in Dallas, who's taking things one day at a time
  • jazzy1
    jazzy1 Member Posts: 1,379
    LizGrrr said:

    Let the diarrhea begin!
    Another fabulous subject line :)

    I'm 2 weeks in, 3 1/2 to go. I'm a little more tired than last week but that's probably because I'm back at the office (it's been a mercifully quiet week which has been nice to ease into things).

    For the past week I've been a poop machine. I take a couple of Immodium every other day and that seems to control things, but the gas is pretty impressive. I'm also retaining enough water that I have a hard time wearing my rings - wonder if that's part of the Immodium regime. I'm avoiding raw fruits and veggies (wah) and drinking a lot of water. So far my skin is still good (a bit dry, but no big deal), too.

    According to my onc, radiation should drop my chances of recurrence from 65% to 50% which I'm calculating at 0.5% reduction per treatment. That means I've already reduced my chances of recurrence 5%!

    Liz in Dallas, who's taking things one day at a time

    Liz
    Gosh I know exactly where you're coming from...stay close to the toilet! Just part of the deal as really I found no way around the diarrhea beside avoiding all the fresh fruits and vegies. I tried to stick with apple sauce, but that has some roughage too.

    I never had issues with my skin being real dry. When treatments were completed, my tummie area was a big tanned that was all.

    Never read the statistics...thanks!

    Jan
  • LizGrrr
    LizGrrr Member Posts: 127 Member
    3 weeks Dow, 2 1/2 to go!
    I've passed the halfway mark. So far, no burning urination; the bowels are controlled by 1 immodium a day ( the gas and diarrhea kick in in the early evening); the fatigue isn't bad...I just want to go to bed a couple hours earlier than usual.

    My hair has been growing back (last chemo was January 23). Shaved my armpits for the first time since December. Of course, the white hairs are growing fastest, as is the facial hair. Joy!

    Liz in Dallas
  • cleo
    cleo Member Posts: 144
    LizGrrr said:

    3 weeks Dow, 2 1/2 to go!
    I've passed the halfway mark. So far, no burning urination; the bowels are controlled by 1 immodium a day ( the gas and diarrhea kick in in the early evening); the fatigue isn't bad...I just want to go to bed a couple hours earlier than usual.

    My hair has been growing back (last chemo was January 23). Shaved my armpits for the first time since December. Of course, the white hairs are growing fastest, as is the facial hair. Joy!

    Liz in Dallas

    Dryness
    I found that putting a water based cream on the treated area immediately after radio stopped any dry skin or after effects. Was also advised to use non scented soap.
    Past the half way...finish in sight.
  • Ro10
    Ro10 Member Posts: 1,561 Member
    LizGrrr said:

    3 weeks Dow, 2 1/2 to go!
    I've passed the halfway mark. So far, no burning urination; the bowels are controlled by 1 immodium a day ( the gas and diarrhea kick in in the early evening); the fatigue isn't bad...I just want to go to bed a couple hours earlier than usual.

    My hair has been growing back (last chemo was January 23). Shaved my armpits for the first time since December. Of course, the white hairs are growing fastest, as is the facial hair. Joy!

    Liz in Dallas

    Congratulations Liz
    Past the half way mark. That is great. Glad you are having minimal side effects. I found the fatigue continued. Through the last weeks, too. I needed minimal immodium also. Good luck with the rest of your treatments. May you continue to tolerate them well. In peace and caring.
  • LizGrrr
    LizGrrr Member Posts: 127 Member
    4 weeks down, 1 to go!
    Got exciting news last week that the radiation oncologist didn't think I needed 3 extra vag-specific treatments so I'll be done in 25 treatments instead of 28. YAY!

    Alas, my intestines have turned into a firehose. I had a wee sinus drainage last week and my GP put me on Amoxicillin; after 3 days I was able to puke and poop at the same time. Do I get a merit badge for that? Anyhow, I put the antibiotic on hold but despite having not eaten in 5 days I've lost 10 pounds (I can live quite well without those 10 pounds). Immodium didn't help, Lomotil didn't help, so now I'm on Flagyl.

    So with 4 treatments to go and what I hope is an intestinal regulator, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

    Next stop: a few weeks of rest then back into chemo :)

    Liz in Dallas who wouldn't mind losing another 10 pounds
  • CindyGSD
    CindyGSD Member Posts: 190
    LizGrrr said:

    4 weeks down, 1 to go!
    Got exciting news last week that the radiation oncologist didn't think I needed 3 extra vag-specific treatments so I'll be done in 25 treatments instead of 28. YAY!

    Alas, my intestines have turned into a firehose. I had a wee sinus drainage last week and my GP put me on Amoxicillin; after 3 days I was able to puke and poop at the same time. Do I get a merit badge for that? Anyhow, I put the antibiotic on hold but despite having not eaten in 5 days I've lost 10 pounds (I can live quite well without those 10 pounds). Immodium didn't help, Lomotil didn't help, so now I'm on Flagyl.

    So with 4 treatments to go and what I hope is an intestinal regulator, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

    Next stop: a few weeks of rest then back into chemo :)

    Liz in Dallas who wouldn't mind losing another 10 pounds

    Oh...
    Flagyl is an antibiotic as well, usually reserved for intestinal parasites, but it works great to firm up stools. I actually have a big bottle of it....for my dogs. Its used to treat giarrdia in them. After my surgery I caught something in the hospital and they put me on it for 10 days. I highly recommend it for loose stools. ;o)

    Hang in there....you're almost done.

    Cindy
  • LizGrrr
    LizGrrr Member Posts: 127 Member
    LizGrrr said:

    4 weeks down, 1 to go!
    Got exciting news last week that the radiation oncologist didn't think I needed 3 extra vag-specific treatments so I'll be done in 25 treatments instead of 28. YAY!

    Alas, my intestines have turned into a firehose. I had a wee sinus drainage last week and my GP put me on Amoxicillin; after 3 days I was able to puke and poop at the same time. Do I get a merit badge for that? Anyhow, I put the antibiotic on hold but despite having not eaten in 5 days I've lost 10 pounds (I can live quite well without those 10 pounds). Immodium didn't help, Lomotil didn't help, so now I'm on Flagyl.

    So with 4 treatments to go and what I hope is an intestinal regulator, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

    Next stop: a few weeks of rest then back into chemo :)

    Liz in Dallas who wouldn't mind losing another 10 pounds

    Done with external radiation!!!!
    Had my 25th and final radiation treatment last Friday. It really was no big deal but it's nice to not have to interrupt my day for it.

    I count myself lucky - no UTI, no skin rash/blistering, and the vag seems to have survived AOK. The Flagyl and Lomotil have done a good job of plugging me up, although when I do go it is diarrhea. DOc says this will last between 3-6 weeks post-treatment. And I am tired but not anywhere near incapacitated.

    Next up: gyn/onc follow-up in 2 weeks and rad/onc follow-up the week after. Chemo to resume early May.

    My hair is growing in FAST. Especially my nose hair, dangit. Oh well, it'll all be gone Memorial Day anyhow :)

    Liz in Dallas
  • pakb56
    pakb56 Member Posts: 141
    LizGrrr said:

    Done with external radiation!!!!
    Had my 25th and final radiation treatment last Friday. It really was no big deal but it's nice to not have to interrupt my day for it.

    I count myself lucky - no UTI, no skin rash/blistering, and the vag seems to have survived AOK. The Flagyl and Lomotil have done a good job of plugging me up, although when I do go it is diarrhea. DOc says this will last between 3-6 weeks post-treatment. And I am tired but not anywhere near incapacitated.

    Next up: gyn/onc follow-up in 2 weeks and rad/onc follow-up the week after. Chemo to resume early May.

    My hair is growing in FAST. Especially my nose hair, dangit. Oh well, it'll all be gone Memorial Day anyhow :)

    Liz in Dallas

    Hooray!
    So glad you are done with your radiation and it went well. Look at the positive side of those nose hairs...they catch what my fall out without you knowing!

    I have my 3rd round of chemo tomorrow and then I start the radiation. Starting and ending that seems like an eternity from now!

    Take care,
    Pat
  • debrajo
    debrajo Member Posts: 1,095 Member
    LizGrrr said:

    Done with external radiation!!!!
    Had my 25th and final radiation treatment last Friday. It really was no big deal but it's nice to not have to interrupt my day for it.

    I count myself lucky - no UTI, no skin rash/blistering, and the vag seems to have survived AOK. The Flagyl and Lomotil have done a good job of plugging me up, although when I do go it is diarrhea. DOc says this will last between 3-6 weeks post-treatment. And I am tired but not anywhere near incapacitated.

    Next up: gyn/onc follow-up in 2 weeks and rad/onc follow-up the week after. Chemo to resume early May.

    My hair is growing in FAST. Especially my nose hair, dangit. Oh well, it'll all be gone Memorial Day anyhow :)

    Liz in Dallas

    radiation
    Funny you should mention nose hair!! Just read an artical in the health journal that longer, thick nose hair was the first line of defense for the lungs (wait for it!)to filter harmful, cancer-causing particals in the air! Always a silver lineing!!Debrajo