fermented soy anyone aka haelen 951 tastes like poison

pete43lost_at_sea
pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
edited March 2012 in Colorectal Cancer #1
so a $80 a bottle its very very expensive, but my doctor said he wanted me on it so i buy.

this stuff tastes like poison, its the foulest tasting substance i have ever tasted.

so it must be good for me.

alot of interesting research. i am taking 30 ml a day.

http://www.haelanproducts.com/

now ironically my other functional gp called on my wife mobile phone, he had discussed my case of rising cea despite all the alternatives, and guess what a recommendation to get yet another alternative.

the irony is that "immunplus" is also based on fermented soy.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E3hh6DV-ZL9bubZeccTRahEi7mPC2aP4Grf0wxUMDjU/edit
i copied the technical specs to my google docs if anyone is interested. its got some interesting stuff about mdr resistance minimisation, it sounds nice, i wonder if its true. i hope so. this product costs about $200 a week here and its made in germany. i m not on it, but i have a close friend who is, he is a stage 4 crc on xeloda, he is doing well so far.

the clinical studies look interesting....
http://www.immun-plus.com/pdf/studies/Japan NK Cell Study-full version.pdf

not sure how these fermented soy products compare, but haelen 951 is the go for the next month, until the next cea. wanting something a bit more effective than an old fermented soyabean, but if it works well i will be happy.

I posted about natto a while back, my doctor said hold off fermented soy for the time being. now i am giving it a go. I might also add some natto into the diet as well.

as i say time will tell....

got a scan coming up thursday of the brain/chest/pelvis/abdo that should be interesting.

hugs,
pete

ps there must be some good science behind the fermented soy story as two doctors independently advised me to try it, albiet different products.

Comments

  • wolfen
    wolfen Member Posts: 1,324 Member
    #2
    Hi Pete
    I certainly have no experience with this alternative, but just wanted to let you know I got a laugh from "It tastes like poison, so it must be good for me". Kind of like castor oil from the old days.

    Luv Ya,

    Wolfen
  • smokeyjoe
    smokeyjoe Member Posts: 1,425 Member
    #3
    wolfen said:

    Hi Pete
    I certainly have no experience with this alternative, but just wanted to let you know I got a laugh from "It tastes like poison, so it must be good for me". Kind of like castor oil from the old days.

    Luv Ya,

    Wolfen

    Why is it so expensive,
    Why is it so expensive, there is natto supplements that don't look too expensive. Also, do you know why your one doc. asked you to hold off on taking it.
  • lesvanb
    lesvanb Member Posts: 905
    #4
    Try umoboshi vinegar
    before drinking it according to a friend who is using it per doc's orders (stage 4 breast cancer. Haelen 951 is thought to attack cancer stem cells.

    Hugs to you Pete
    Leslie
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    #5
    lesvanb said:

    Try umoboshi vinegar
    before drinking it according to a friend who is using it per doc's orders (stage 4 breast cancer. Haelen 951 is thought to attack cancer stem cells.

    Hugs to you Pete
    Leslie

    thanks leslie
    stems cells, well now thats interesting, my doc functional dr 2 is probably one of our top stem cell specialists , he uses them on cancer patients, but i have not found out the technical details yet. alway something interesting to read with this disease.

    i will try the vinegar. i am pretty tough but the haelen well its strong medicine. i am positive its killing lots of cancer cells.

    hell it tastes so bad, they probably commit cell suicide as soon as they see me get it out of the fridge. now this type of imagery might actually help, given the mind body spirit connection that i believe in.

    I have put up another post about the mind body spirit stuff.

    hugs,
    pete
  • smokeyjoe
    smokeyjoe Member Posts: 1,425 Member
    #6
    pete43lost_at_sea said:

    thanks leslie
    stems cells, well now thats interesting, my doc functional dr 2 is probably one of our top stem cell specialists , he uses them on cancer patients, but i have not found out the technical details yet. alway something interesting to read with this disease.

    i will try the vinegar. i am pretty tough but the haelen well its strong medicine. i am positive its killing lots of cancer cells.

    hell it tastes so bad, they probably commit cell suicide as soon as they see me get it out of the fridge. now this type of imagery might actually help, given the mind body spirit connection that i believe in.

    I have put up another post about the mind body spirit stuff.

    hugs,
    pete

    Pete what does it taste
    Pete what does it taste like?? Compare to something similar!!!

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