Prayer

LISAinTN
LISAinTN Member Posts: 143
in Kidney Cancer #1
I just wanted to share this for anyone that possibly wonders if prayer works. I believe whole heartedly that it does and here is one reason why.

When I found out I had cancer, I was SO upset. It was a Friday. I mean, I was shaking uncontrollably in the doctor's office. So badly, that they gave me a prescription for valium. Of course, we told all our family right away when we got home that afternoon. I wanted to get all the prayers I could. I will be honest and say we'd had a lot going on in our lives for the last couple years and with this diagnosis, I was kind of wondering, where was God? I started to kind of have some doubts during this weak moment.

My sister-in-law (SIL) teaches Sunday school. She came over to see me right away the next day (Saturday) and she talked to me a lot about God and was reassuring me about a lot of things, telling me he hadn't left me. I was upset all weekend and Sunday night I laid down to go to sleep in my bed and the second I closed my eyes, I literally felt the bed rocking back and forth, from side to side, like a baby's cradle would rock side to side, in a swinging motion. I quick sat up and looked around. The dog was on the bed and not moving. I laid back down again and closed my eyes and it started again. I hadn't taken the valium and no, I wasn't drinking. lol (In that instance, the bed spins around, it doesn't rock. lol) Anyway, it kept happening and I finally quit wondering and fell asleep. I had my ideas that God was trying to let me know he was there.

So, Monday, I called my SIL and we were talking and I told her about it. She started crying and screaming at the same time. Sunday at church, she has a women's prayer warrior group and they had gotten in a circle and prayed for me. Their specific prayer was that God would rock me in his arms and give me comfort. Oh my, I get teary just thinking about that phone call. Isn't that awesome?

If someone doesn't believe, I'm not trying to offend. Just wanted to share my experience. Maybe sometime we could even start a prayer request thread. I'd love to have names in a list to pray for here. Just a thought.

Blessings,
Lisa

Comments

  • livealive
    livealive Member Posts: 127
    #2
    Emailed you
    Lisa - I sent you an email. I wrote it here, then realized, I wrote too much.

    Please let me know if you received it.

    Thanks.
  • livealive
    livealive Member Posts: 127
    #3
    Shrine in India - if anyone is interested
    Shirdi
    http://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/darshan.html

    SiddhiVinayak - Mumbai
    http://siddhivinayak.org/virtual_darshan1.asp

    Thx.
  • cww71964
    cww71964 Member Posts: 97
    #4
    I believe
    Lisa,

    That is an awesome story. I truly believe and pray daily. I know that through prayer,God has comforted me and helped me maintain a positive outlook.

    Best wishes,
    Wayne
  • rae_rae
    rae_rae Member Posts: 300 Member
    #5
    cww71964 said:

    I believe
    Lisa,

    That is an awesome story. I truly believe and pray daily. I know that through prayer,God has comforted me and helped me maintain a positive outlook.

    Best wishes,
    Wayne

    Prayer requests
    That's a wonderful idea. Prayer is powerful. Thank you for sharing Lisa.

    Rae
  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181 Member
    #6
    rae_rae said:

    Prayer requests
    That's a wonderful idea. Prayer is powerful. Thank you for sharing Lisa.

    Rae

    prayer
    Awesome, Lisa.
  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    #7
    foxhd said:

    prayer
    Awesome, Lisa.

    Like Davie Jones said...
    I'm a believer!!! Count me in.
  • JackieP125
    JackieP125 Member Posts: 56
    #8
    God is Great!!!
    I believe too. Miracles do happen and prayers do get answered. God Bless!!
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    #9
    JackieP125 said:

    God is Great!!!
    I believe too. Miracles do happen and prayers do get answered. God Bless!!

    Power of prayer
    Whatever one's beliefs, that's a beautiful story of human love and compassion. Probably many of us know about the research that's been done in the past in this domain. One brief conspectus on a non-academic plane is:

    http://www.plim.org/PrayerDeb.htm

    I'm agnostic about the more arcane aspects but I believe in the power of prayer - both in the value to the person praying and the value to anyone who knows and appreciates that others are praying for them and that's enough for me. What seems an eternity ago (even though I only joined here 3 months ago) I asked for some prayers and I do so again because I think the recipients so deserving - here is my original message:

    A request - for any spare prayers
    Texas_wedge
    January 24, 2012 - 10:49am

    We're naturally, and sensibly, focused on our own predicament and this often precludes us from being able to express a broader solidarity with other sufferers. The liver cancer forum, as Jamie has testified, is a gloomier place than here and, as she shrewdly observed, is populated predominantly by caregivers. Some of them have it really tough and don't have the benefit of the volume and quality of support we enjoy in our vibrant community on this kidney cancer forum.

    Consequently, may I ask anyone who has a few spare moments to visit there and offer any moral support they can to, in particular, "sig" (see the thread: My husband lost his battle with cancer) and Shirley, of LeeandShirley. As some sort of quid pro quo for this request, I offer you the following message from Shirley who is evidently a very intelligent lady and who invariably makes some very astute comments.

    "If you are new to cancer Don't Believe The Statistics

    My husband Lee was diagnosed with Cholyangiocarcenoma, (primary liver cancer), at the end of August 2010. I immediately went on line and tried to learn everything I could about Liver cancer. I was panic stricken and the statistics for liver cancer patients was bleak. Lee had resection of a 5 cm. encapsulated tumor, Sept. 6th 2010. Biopsy confirmed it was indeed liver cancer , but the surgeon was confident that he got it all. He was watched with CAT scans every 2-3 months following surgery. In April of 2011, the cancer was back, with multiple tumors in his liver and abdomen and with a suspicious lesion on his hip. He started chemo on May 1, 2011. His last PET scan showed SIGNIFICANT shrinkage of the tumors in his liver with some tumors no longer seen. And all lymph nodes were shrunk back to normal with no activity seen. Just the "lesion", (same as tumor), was not better, even grew a bit. But, the reason for my post, IS THIS, if statistics dictated the course of cancer, Lee would be at deaths door or worse right now. If you get a diagnosis of stage four cancer, it is scary and something to be dealt with, but it is not an immediate death sentence and often, the statistics are all wrong, because they take into account the most extreme cases too. The average person, can and does LIVE with cancer, undergoing many inconvenient treatments and tests and doctor appointments and your whole life will seem to revolve around this new way of life. But, it is life. So don't spend one minute crying and worrying about cancer. Spend all your energy educating yourself about what is available and when you get a doctor who tells you there is nothing he can do, get another doctor. By the way Lee is doing pretty good, given the fact that they have been pumping him full of poison for 4 months and he has started radiation on the hip tumor, since the chemo didn't do the job. Based on what I have learned, you never give up until the very last effort has failed to stop the progress of this nasty disease. I no longer worry how long he has. That kind of thinking is pointless and wastes precious time. We live one day at a time, and enjoy and rejoice in every moment of LIFE. We all die, Dying is not the issue with cancer, learning to LIVE with a diagnosis of cancer is the hard part. Once you learn how to do this, you have won the battle."

    If you could go to the liver cancer forum and tell those admirable ladies, Sue ("sig") and Shirley ("LeeandShirley") that they're in your prayers I will be forever in your debt.
  • rae_rae
    rae_rae Member Posts: 300 Member
    #10
    Texas_wedge said:

    Power of prayer
    Whatever one's beliefs, that's a beautiful story of human love and compassion. Probably many of us know about the research that's been done in the past in this domain. One brief conspectus on a non-academic plane is:

    http://www.plim.org/PrayerDeb.htm

    I'm agnostic about the more arcane aspects but I believe in the power of prayer - both in the value to the person praying and the value to anyone who knows and appreciates that others are praying for them and that's enough for me. What seems an eternity ago (even though I only joined here 3 months ago) I asked for some prayers and I do so again because I think the recipients so deserving - here is my original message:

    A request - for any spare prayers
    Texas_wedge
    January 24, 2012 - 10:49am

    We're naturally, and sensibly, focused on our own predicament and this often precludes us from being able to express a broader solidarity with other sufferers. The liver cancer forum, as Jamie has testified, is a gloomier place than here and, as she shrewdly observed, is populated predominantly by caregivers. Some of them have it really tough and don't have the benefit of the volume and quality of support we enjoy in our vibrant community on this kidney cancer forum.

    Consequently, may I ask anyone who has a few spare moments to visit there and offer any moral support they can to, in particular, "sig" (see the thread: My husband lost his battle with cancer) and Shirley, of LeeandShirley. As some sort of quid pro quo for this request, I offer you the following message from Shirley who is evidently a very intelligent lady and who invariably makes some very astute comments.

    "If you are new to cancer Don't Believe The Statistics

    My husband Lee was diagnosed with Cholyangiocarcenoma, (primary liver cancer), at the end of August 2010. I immediately went on line and tried to learn everything I could about Liver cancer. I was panic stricken and the statistics for liver cancer patients was bleak. Lee had resection of a 5 cm. encapsulated tumor, Sept. 6th 2010. Biopsy confirmed it was indeed liver cancer , but the surgeon was confident that he got it all. He was watched with CAT scans every 2-3 months following surgery. In April of 2011, the cancer was back, with multiple tumors in his liver and abdomen and with a suspicious lesion on his hip. He started chemo on May 1, 2011. His last PET scan showed SIGNIFICANT shrinkage of the tumors in his liver with some tumors no longer seen. And all lymph nodes were shrunk back to normal with no activity seen. Just the "lesion", (same as tumor), was not better, even grew a bit. But, the reason for my post, IS THIS, if statistics dictated the course of cancer, Lee would be at deaths door or worse right now. If you get a diagnosis of stage four cancer, it is scary and something to be dealt with, but it is not an immediate death sentence and often, the statistics are all wrong, because they take into account the most extreme cases too. The average person, can and does LIVE with cancer, undergoing many inconvenient treatments and tests and doctor appointments and your whole life will seem to revolve around this new way of life. But, it is life. So don't spend one minute crying and worrying about cancer. Spend all your energy educating yourself about what is available and when you get a doctor who tells you there is nothing he can do, get another doctor. By the way Lee is doing pretty good, given the fact that they have been pumping him full of poison for 4 months and he has started radiation on the hip tumor, since the chemo didn't do the job. Based on what I have learned, you never give up until the very last effort has failed to stop the progress of this nasty disease. I no longer worry how long he has. That kind of thinking is pointless and wastes precious time. We live one day at a time, and enjoy and rejoice in every moment of LIFE. We all die, Dying is not the issue with cancer, learning to LIVE with a diagnosis of cancer is the hard part. Once you learn how to do this, you have won the battle."

    If you could go to the liver cancer forum and tell those admirable ladies, Sue ("sig") and Shirley ("LeeandShirley") that they're in your prayers I will be forever in your debt.

    Lisa
    I ventured over to the breast cancer forum to ask advice on my lump and they do a "pink bus" for anyonehad having scans, tests or sugery. Its pretty awesome. I went there today to post my results and they started a pink bus for me last night-people post prayers and well wishes. Maybe we can start something like that here. Of course it's orange for kidney cancer. Maybe the orange conga line?!
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    #11
    rae_rae said:

    Lisa
    I ventured over to the breast cancer forum to ask advice on my lump and they do a "pink bus" for anyonehad having scans, tests or sugery. Its pretty awesome. I went there today to post my results and they started a pink bus for me last night-people post prayers and well wishes. Maybe we can start something like that here. Of course it's orange for kidney cancer. Maybe the orange conga line?!

    Prayers
    Thanks Rae for your posts on the Liver cancer forum. How did orange for KC originate?
  • rae_rae
    rae_rae Member Posts: 300 Member
    #12
    Texas_wedge said:

    Prayers
    Thanks Rae for your posts on the Liver cancer forum. How did orange for KC originate?

    Not sure
    But I have seen it at the KCA site. Maybe they were running out of colors. And it was my pleasure to post. Thanks for bringing us their stories.
  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    #13
    rae_rae said:

    Lisa
    I ventured over to the breast cancer forum to ask advice on my lump and they do a "pink bus" for anyonehad having scans, tests or sugery. Its pretty awesome. I went there today to post my results and they started a pink bus for me last night-people post prayers and well wishes. Maybe we can start something like that here. Of course it's orange for kidney cancer. Maybe the orange conga line?!

    Orange conga line...
    For those of us old enough to remember, would that be the same as the "TANG"go?
  • alice124
    alice124 Member Posts: 896 Member
    #14
    prayer
    Lisa - what a wonderful story. It gave me chills. I do believe in God and prayer, though I'm not a Sunday churchgoer. I guess I'm more spiritual. I've seen miracles and felt miracles, and--as I've discussed with my husband--even cancer is part of a bigger picture. There's a reason for it somewhere. Maybe it's God's tool to reattach a detached family; maybe you're meant to be a part of medical research; maybe your cancer experience triggers you to give hope and inspiration to others in similar situations like on this Board; maybe you're meant to be a miracle yourself. I know I'm not qualified to speak on cancer since--in fact--I don't have cancer. But I do believe it's a way a higher force gets our attention and redirects our priorities.
  • rae_rae
    rae_rae Member Posts: 300 Member
    #15
    alice124 said:

    prayer
    Lisa - what a wonderful story. It gave me chills. I do believe in God and prayer, though I'm not a Sunday churchgoer. I guess I'm more spiritual. I've seen miracles and felt miracles, and--as I've discussed with my husband--even cancer is part of a bigger picture. There's a reason for it somewhere. Maybe it's God's tool to reattach a detached family; maybe you're meant to be a part of medical research; maybe your cancer experience triggers you to give hope and inspiration to others in similar situations like on this Board; maybe you're meant to be a miracle yourself. I know I'm not qualified to speak on cancer since--in fact--I don't have cancer. But I do believe it's a way a higher force gets our attention and redirects our priorities.

    Tang
    Ha ha Gary I just caught that! I thought Tang was the greatest thing back in the day! And yes, I am a little slow...hehe
  • Beingbless
    Beingbless Member Posts: 46
    #16
    rae_rae said:

    Tang
    Ha ha Gary I just caught that! I thought Tang was the greatest thing back in the day! And yes, I am a little slow...hehe

    Prayers chage things -- I believe
    Yes, I believe, prayers change things. I believe our God is the miracle God and He is the healer.

    I just went through the laposcopic radical nephrectomy couple weeks ago. No doubt, it was very hard to digest the word of cancer at first, and then the surgery was pretty scarring to me, I hate needles. But I still remember so viviidly, the moment I lied down on the prep room, my heart wss full of peace, I knew there are so many prayers have been lifted up for me aroud the globe and God is peace.

    God is good all the time. God bless.
  • LISAinTN
    LISAinTN Member Posts: 143
    #17
    livealive said:

    Emailed you
    Lisa - I sent you an email. I wrote it here, then realized, I wrote too much.

    Please let me know if you received it.

    Thanks.

    :o)
    I replied, Raj.
  • LISAinTN
    LISAinTN Member Posts: 143
    #18
    livealive said:

    Shrine in India - if anyone is interested
    Shirdi
    http://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/darshan.html

    SiddhiVinayak - Mumbai
    http://siddhivinayak.org/virtual_darshan1.asp

    Thx.

    Nice
    Raj, I couldn't see the video's, but looked at some picture's. It looks like a beautiful place.
  • LISAinTN
    LISAinTN Member Posts: 143
    #19
    alice124 said:

    prayer
    Lisa - what a wonderful story. It gave me chills. I do believe in God and prayer, though I'm not a Sunday churchgoer. I guess I'm more spiritual. I've seen miracles and felt miracles, and--as I've discussed with my husband--even cancer is part of a bigger picture. There's a reason for it somewhere. Maybe it's God's tool to reattach a detached family; maybe you're meant to be a part of medical research; maybe your cancer experience triggers you to give hope and inspiration to others in similar situations like on this Board; maybe you're meant to be a miracle yourself. I know I'm not qualified to speak on cancer since--in fact--I don't have cancer. But I do believe it's a way a higher force gets our attention and redirects our priorities.

    I agree
    Hi Alice,

    Thank you for your kind and wise words! I totally agree that God can use cancer as a wake-up call. I've been trying to figure out why I had the cancer and what God wants me to do with it. I think it was a slap upside the head for many reasons and sometimes I find myself feeling blessed for having had the cancer. (Although, I do hope it doesn't come back! I don't want THAT big of a slap upside the head. lol) I know my diverticulitis attack was also a blessing as they wouldn't have found the cancer had I not had the attack. :o)

    Blessings,
    Lisa
  • LISAinTN
    LISAinTN Member Posts: 143
    #20
    LISAinTN said:

    I agree
    Hi Alice,

    Thank you for your kind and wise words! I totally agree that God can use cancer as a wake-up call. I've been trying to figure out why I had the cancer and what God wants me to do with it. I think it was a slap upside the head for many reasons and sometimes I find myself feeling blessed for having had the cancer. (Although, I do hope it doesn't come back! I don't want THAT big of a slap upside the head. lol) I know my diverticulitis attack was also a blessing as they wouldn't have found the cancer had I not had the attack. :o)

    Blessings,
    Lisa

    Hi
    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks for all the comments. Sorry I haven't been here for a few days. I have had a heck of a time accessing this site. My pages always time out and after trying off and on for a couple of days, I gave up. Was able to get in fine today. Hope it continues that way.

    As for a prayer list of some kind, we'll have to brainstorm on what we'd like to do. Happy day to everyone!

    Blessings,
    Lisa
  • littledarlin
    littledarlin Member Posts: 102
    #21
    LISAinTN said:

    Hi
    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks for all the comments. Sorry I haven't been here for a few days. I have had a heck of a time accessing this site. My pages always time out and after trying off and on for a couple of days, I gave up. Was able to get in fine today. Hope it continues that way.

    As for a prayer list of some kind, we'll have to brainstorm on what we'd like to do. Happy day to everyone!

    Blessings,
    Lisa

    Hi Lisa and Everyone who wrote here.
    I too believe in prayer and that God is with me..I didn't always think this way but during my darkest hours when I felt all alone I came to realise that I was not because he was with me. I am still here when all the odds said I should be gone..He is in my heart and with me always. Like the poem "Footprints in the sand".
    I know he will never leave me or forsake me..Reading "The Twenty-Third Psalm" got me through many times. I have been to the meadow in my dreams and it is lovely..

    I so enjoyed reading this thread it has lightened my heart and given me peace..
    I would be very interested in a prayer list or maybe a place where we could post the inspirational and spiritual experiences we have had..

    God Bless,
    LD

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