Here's that very promising study regarding taking turmeric when one is taking Taxol to up the effect

california_artist
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[My comments: I do think this is worth reading. Talks of turmerics beneficial use in conjunction with Taxol. the spaces in the article were put there by me so it would be easier to see why you might be interested, everything else in the same. I thought I had posted this but didn't see it anywhere. Might be something to bring to the attention of your doctors.]


They are talking about taxol and breast cancer, but they are talking about taxol, which is often the first line of chemo taken.

Then they go on to discuss -TaXOL USED OVER TIME:
They say: Because Taxol is so toxic, it activates a protein that produces an inflammatory response that induces metastasis.

But and here's the good news-talking about curcumin(an ingredient in easily obtainable turmeric): researchers found that the nontoxic natural substance not only repelled progression of the disease to the lungs, but also appeared to reverse the negative effects of paclitaxel (Taxol TM ), a commonly prescribed chemotherapy for breast cancer that may trigger spread of the disease with use over a long period of time.

It mentions that curcumin lessens the toxicity of taxol by specifically breaking the dose into more manageable size, thus giving cancer less of a target to respond to negatively.

Article further states: In fact, researchers found that adding curcumin to Taxol actually enhances its effects.

and this:

Curcumin breaks down the dose, making the therapy less toxic and just as powerful while delivering the same level of efficacy.

I had read this before in regard to the combo.

Early Study Shows Spice Stunts Deadly Spread To Lungs
ScienceDaily (Oct. 16, 2005) — HOUSTON - Curcumin, the main ingredient of turmeric and the compound that gives curry its mustard-yellow color, inhibits metastasis to the lungs of mice with breast cancer, report researchers at The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center.
The study, to be published in the Oct. 15 issue of the journal Clinical Cancer Research, reports that the spice appears to shut down a protein active in the spread of breast cancer to a major target for metastasis.
Though the study results are early, researchers found that the nontoxic natural substance not only repelled progression of the disease to the lungs, but also appeared to reverse the effects of paclitaxel (Taxol TM ), a commonly prescribed chemotherapy for breast cancer that may trigger spread of the disease with use over a long period of time.
Because Taxol is so toxic, it activates a protein that produces an inflammatory response that induces metastasis.
Curcumin suppresses this response, making it impossible for the cancer to spread.
In fact, researchers found that adding curcumin to Taxol actually enhances its effect.
Curcumin breaks down the dose, making the therapy less toxic and just as powerful while delivering the same level of efficacy.
"We are excited about the results of the study and the possible implications for taking the findings into the clinic in the next several years," says Bharat Aggarwal, Ph.D., professor of cancer medicine in M. D. Anderson's Department of Experimental Therapeutics. "At this time, advanced breast cancer is a difficult foe to fight with few proven treatments available after surgery, chemotherapy and radiation therapy."
Taxol is currently used as the front-line chemotherapeutic agent in breast cancers, but because the drug frequently induces drug resistance after prolonged use, it is not effective in treating metastatic breast cancer, says Aggarwal.
Researchers studied 60 mice with breast cancer, which were randomly assigned to one of four groups: control group, Taxol only, curcumin only and the combination of Taxol and curcumin. After the tumors grew to 10 mm (about the size of a pea), they were surgically removed, and the mice were fed a powdered curcumin diet.
Macroscopic lung metastasis, or metastasis that is visible to the naked eye, was seen in 96 percent of the mice in the control group. Treatment using Taxol alone only "modestly reduced" the incidence of metastases, while the group using curcumin alone and curcumin plus Taxol "significantly reduced" both the incidence and numbers of visible lung metastases.
Microscopic metastasis, or metastasis that is visible only when using a microscope, was found in the lungs of 28 percent of mice treated with the combination of curcumin and Taxol, and there was no macroscopic disease present. The micrometastases present consisted of only a few cells, suggesting that the combination inhibited the growth of breast cancer tumor cells that were in the lung before the tumors were removed.
In a previous study published in the Aug. 15 issue of the journal Cancer, M. D. Anderson researchers found that when the nuclear factor-kappa B (NF-kB) (a powerful protein known to promote the inflammatory response necessary to cause breast cancer to spread) is shut down, cancer strains are unable to grow and cells are pushed to commit suicide.
The mechanism in this curcumin study works the same way. Taxol activated the NF-kB in breast cancer cells, while curcumin stopped this activation by blocking the protein known as "IKK" that switched on the NF-kB, demonstrating how curcumin and Taxol work against one another. Taxol produced the inflammatory response, triggering metastasis, and curcumin suppressed it, causing cell death.
Extracted from the roots of the curcuma longa plant, curcumin is a member of the ginger family. While it is not used in conventional medicine, it is widely prescribed in Indian medicine as a potent remedy for liver disorders, rheumatism, diabetic wounds, runny nose, cough and sinusitis. Traditional Chinese medicine uses curcumin as a treatment for diseases associated with abdominal pain, and it is used in ancient Hindu medicine as a treatment for sprains and swelling.
According to the American Cancer Society, the chance of a woman having invasive breast cancer sometime during her life is one in eight. About 211,240 women in the United States will be diagnosed with invasive breast cancer in 2005, and approximately 40,410 women will die from the disease this year.
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The study was funded by the United States Department of Defense. Co-authors include Shishir Shishodia, Ph.D.; Yasunari Takada, Ph.D.; Sanjeev Banerjee, Ph.D.; Robert A. Newman, Ph.D.; Carlos Bueso-Ramos, M.D., Ph.D.; and Janet E. Price, Ph.D.

Honestly, what's not to love about this news.
So, all in all, I read this as very good news potentially. It's likely that other universities will be picking up on this and adding their research findings either in support or not. But basically it could potentially help those with recurrences have a far better response to Taxol.
Anyone wishing further information or critique would be well advised to contact the original researchers or M.D.Anderson directly for current status, it is not my study, I'm just putting it out there.

TRULY HOPE SOME OF YOU BRING THE INFO TO THE ATTENTION OF YOUR DOCTORS. BEST WISHES TO YOU ALL

Comments

  • jazzy1
    jazzy1 Member Posts: 1,379
    #2
    Thanks!
    Great information!! Unfortunately I'm past the taxol timeframe, but sure am incorporating turmeric in my daily food intake. Over the years, you've posted much information on the positive affects from turmeric, black pepper and olive oil. I'm sold!!!

    Ciao!
    Jan
  • RoseyR
    RoseyR Member Posts: 471 Member
    #3
    jazzy1 said:

    Thanks!
    Great information!! Unfortunately I'm past the taxol timeframe, but sure am incorporating turmeric in my daily food intake. Over the years, you've posted much information on the positive affects from turmeric, black pepper and olive oil. I'm sold!!!

    Ciao!
    Jan

    Huge Implications

    Thanks, Claudia. I had posted some similar information six months ago--but not as thorough--and although I didn't take curcumin during first three rounds of taxol, I was eating a fair amount turmeric with olive oil during that period. During my susequent four weeks of pelvic radiation, my doctor said I absolutely should take curcumin and I continued to take it during my last three rounds of taxol.

    The claim that taxol itself is so inflammatory that it may--even while reducing the size of a current tumor--encourage micrometastases down the road could, I think, warrant a class action suit representing thousands of women with uterine, ovarian, and breast cancer who were never made aware of this likelihood. We are ALL hoping to avoid or delay as long as possible any spread to our lungs and other vital organs, so what is the good of eliminating a primary tumor in our uterus only to wind up with mets to even more vital organs a few years later?

    We women have too long been subject of hasty medical fads, such as "estrogen therapy" for menopausal symptoms that, making a fortune for pharmaceuticals and the doctors who pushed this therapy, often bred more breast cancer. Consider too the osteo drugs that can erode jawbones and actually exacerbate hip fractures. Then there was DES, to prevent miscarriage, which in turn created daughters prone to vaginal cancer. The list goes on and on.

    I am likewise intrigued by one board member who insisted that having finished all chemo and radiation, she will NOT subject herself to the CT scans every three months to detect a possible recurrence because the radiation dosage needed to detect recurrence is likely itself to CAUSE recurrence. (A friend's husband who is a nuclear physicist has opened my eyes to radiation measurements as they're used in medicine--in a form that makes it hard to interpret. More fundamentally, how many of us realize that each CT scan of a large area--pelvis or lungs--is equivalent to more than 15 chest X-rays?)

    I wonder if any of us has time to research outcomes for those who had the traditional sandwich treatment (chemo/radiation/chemo) but refused any scans for the next two years ...

    Best,
    Rosey
  • lkchapman
    lkchapman Member Posts: 106
    #4
    RoseyR said:

    Huge Implications

    Thanks, Claudia. I had posted some similar information six months ago--but not as thorough--and although I didn't take curcumin during first three rounds of taxol, I was eating a fair amount turmeric with olive oil during that period. During my susequent four weeks of pelvic radiation, my doctor said I absolutely should take curcumin and I continued to take it during my last three rounds of taxol.

    The claim that taxol itself is so inflammatory that it may--even while reducing the size of a current tumor--encourage micrometastases down the road could, I think, warrant a class action suit representing thousands of women with uterine, ovarian, and breast cancer who were never made aware of this likelihood. We are ALL hoping to avoid or delay as long as possible any spread to our lungs and other vital organs, so what is the good of eliminating a primary tumor in our uterus only to wind up with mets to even more vital organs a few years later?

    We women have too long been subject of hasty medical fads, such as "estrogen therapy" for menopausal symptoms that, making a fortune for pharmaceuticals and the doctors who pushed this therapy, often bred more breast cancer. Consider too the osteo drugs that can erode jawbones and actually exacerbate hip fractures. Then there was DES, to prevent miscarriage, which in turn created daughters prone to vaginal cancer. The list goes on and on.

    I am likewise intrigued by one board member who insisted that having finished all chemo and radiation, she will NOT subject herself to the CT scans every three months to detect a possible recurrence because the radiation dosage needed to detect recurrence is likely itself to CAUSE recurrence. (A friend's husband who is a nuclear physicist has opened my eyes to radiation measurements as they're used in medicine--in a form that makes it hard to interpret. More fundamentally, how many of us realize that each CT scan of a large area--pelvis or lungs--is equivalent to more than 15 chest X-rays?)

    I wonder if any of us has time to research outcomes for those who had the traditional sandwich treatment (chemo/radiation/chemo) but refused any scans for the next two years ...

    Best,
    Rosey

    Psoriasis and curcumin
    My husband has been battling psoriasis for several years with little success, even trying Enbrel. The enbrel worked some but cost a ton and his insurance company quit paying for it. I read on the People's Pharmacy that curcumin was effective for psoriasis. I had a bottle of Super Bio-Curcumin I had purchased for myself but had quit using so he started taking one pill twice a day. Within a week his psoriasis started going into remission. So I can definitely attest to its effectiveness against inflammation. I know this isn't cancer but inflammation is inflammation. This is one product I would definitely recommend and you know I'm a skeptic. :-)

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