has anyone else heard this?

denistd
denistd Member Posts: 597
in Head and Neck Cancer #1
I heard on the radio this past week that researchers are going through the prelims to get approved to run clinical trials on a new therapy that they claim could be the cure. tests so far on rats and mice and such have revealed a possible cure. They said that a nano piece of gold is inserted into a liquid which is then delivered, intravenously 4 times over a short period of time, the gold penetrates cancer cells anywhere in the body. The patient is then exposed to radio waves, not radiation. The gold heats up and burns the cell, the cell is completely eradicated. Only heard this once on the radio while I was driving, I am a little skeptical. denis

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  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    #2
    Hi Denistd
    I hate to see how much they charge for the gold. Sorry but this is the first I hard of this but will try looking it up.

    Thanks
    Hondo
  • MarineE5
    MarineE5 Member Posts: 1,034 Member
    #3
    John Kanzius machine
    Denis,

    The radio station was probably talking about the inventor (John Kanzius)from Pennsylvania that came up with this as he was going thru cancer and wanted to try and find another solution to killing cancer cells. I remember seeing a clip on the internet with him saying it broke his heart to see young children going thru the radiation and chemo treatments.

    Unfortunately, he died in 2009, but hopefully his machine and idea will workout. My daughter-in-law is a Nurse and many in her family are Doctors. They tell me that they have an old saying about new ideas. "It can take 25 years from bench to bed". So, it may be a few more years before this is tested on humans.

    The current Doctor working on the machine is hoping that humans can be used for testing in the next 4 years. Here is the link to the "60 Minutes" report, it is about 20 minutes long and has a couple of commercials at the beginning, interesting......

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5394576n

    My Best to You and Everyone Here
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    #4
    MarineE5 said:

    John Kanzius machine
    Denis,

    The radio station was probably talking about the inventor (John Kanzius)from Pennsylvania that came up with this as he was going thru cancer and wanted to try and find another solution to killing cancer cells. I remember seeing a clip on the internet with him saying it broke his heart to see young children going thru the radiation and chemo treatments.

    Unfortunately, he died in 2009, but hopefully his machine and idea will workout. My daughter-in-law is a Nurse and many in her family are Doctors. They tell me that they have an old saying about new ideas. "It can take 25 years from bench to bed". So, it may be a few more years before this is tested on humans.

    The current Doctor working on the machine is hoping that humans can be used for testing in the next 4 years. Here is the link to the "60 Minutes" report, it is about 20 minutes long and has a couple of commercials at the beginning, interesting......

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5394576n

    My Best to You and Everyone Here

    Hi Marine

    Amazing story about this man, I just hope they continue with his research.

    Thanks
    Hondo
  • DrMary
    DrMary Member Posts: 531 Member
    #5
    Hondo said:

    Hi Marine

    Amazing story about this man, I just hope they continue with his research.

    Thanks
    Hondo

    Gold Standard
    We always try to avoid calling a particular set of treatments the "Gold Standard" as there are currently many right ways to combine treatments. However, this one could get that name, even if it didn't work.

    The tricky part is to get the gold to go to (and into)cancer cells. When I was in school (we rode dinosaurs there and back) the idea was to join highly toxic chemicals to antibodies made from the tumor's tissue, so it would go directly to the tumor but not affect other tissue.

    The gold approach seems to be totally mechanical - the gold nanoparticles are just the right size to get caught in the rough channels between cancer cells (slow-growing normal cells have smooth junctures between cells, in contrast). Any toxic chemicals attached to the gold will release at the tumor site. Also, the gold can be used to concentrate near-IR waves (shorter than radio waves but longer than visible light) as has been mentioned. All in all, very exciting.

    I did geek out on the title of one article in Angewandte Chemie: "Quantitative Replacement of Cetyl Trimethylammonium Bromide by Cationic Thiol Ligands on the Surface of Gold Nanorods and Their Extremely Large Uptake by Cancer Cells,"
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    #6
    Cost of Treatment.

    Well if just my Radiation cost a little over $220,000.00 I wonder how much more it would cost will a little gold in it. At lease maybe I could recapture some of the gold in my urine; it would be like gold digging panhandling style.

    Sorry I got nothing else to do this morning.
    Hondo
  • par
    par Member Posts: 23
    #7
    Isn't this what they do with
    Isn't this what they do with the Proton treatment.I think they have tried it at Loma Linda and maybe MD ANDERSON>

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