Vegan and no sugar

Fayard · December 2011

jazzy1 said:
Rosey
I used to be a huge junkie with supplements and per my nutritionist have cut back many...getting so much more from my good eating habits. Still working on more outta here

I take --

vit d
Digestive enzymes (probiotic)
Stamets 7 (mushrooms)
BioSil (bone strengthener)
COQ10
Fish oil (thinking this will go as get much with my diet...just have some of these left in inventory)

When I make my protein shake I as well add flax seed powder, organic chia seeds and cinnamon spice (lots of antioxidant). Brazil nuts are great for selenium....did you know this? Got rid of my supplement and replaced with nuts.

What do others take supplement-wise?

Jan

Jan
I take Vitamin D, C, B12, Probiotics, Iron, and Calcium.
I like to try Biosil.
What is COQ10 for?

HellieC · December 2011

Susanna23 said:
diet ideas
Ladies, good to read this thread! I will just contribute a few ideas
I have been taking a vitamin D supplement (25 micrograms) for a few months, since chemo. My GP ordered a test when I'd not been taking it for very long and it was 57 which is considered low so am trying to get it up to 80. My GP agrees with me and we will have it retested in a month or so to see if the supplement has brought it up.
The only oils we use at home now are coconut oil for stir fry/cooking and flaxseed oil for salad dressing. Came across a farm in Sussex that supplies the latter on standing order and their manager told me about the former (I think they also supply people on the Budwig diet - something I haven't done)
Using a lot of turmeric - powder in soup, curry, pickle from local Asian shop (like lime pickle) and also slices of pickled turmeric. Have been advised on healthy benefits of turmeric by 'beauty therapist' (aromatherapy facial, lymphatic drainage, leg waxing) who is from Kenya where it is a known remedy.
Btw, a bit off topic but therapist lady also mentioned mistletoe therapy (Iscador) to me some months ago, which I have now managed to get on the NHS at the London Hospital for Integrated Medicine (Helen, do you know about this place?)
Best regards
Susan

Hi Susan
I've read about the mistletoe therapy and saw that it was available in London. I thought about following it up, but I have decided, for the time being anyway, to stick with my B17 tablets (derived from apricot kernels) - but thanks for the information and I have saved a link to the hospital for future reference (it used to be the Royal Homeopathic - my Mum was treated there when we lived in London). I have been taking them since my chemo stopped and I am now 11 months post chemo. We thought I had another recurrence a month or so back and I had an MRI followed by a PET/CT scan but all is OK. They think the pain I am getting in my pelvis is due to "wear and tear" or scar tissue pulling inside. I am trying hard with my diet - hardly anything sweet now, much less animal protein, more fruit and veggies etc. I make cakes using xylitol instead of sugar (if I make any at all - usually for guests).
best wishes
Helen

RoseyR · December 2011

Gracegoi said:
trusting our cravings
I was on Vacation and away from my usual routine of herbal tea and any juicing. I found myself at the whole foods bar ravenous a few times . LOL! I was drawn to the fish with parmesan which is not my favorite meat .I felt satisfied afterwards.

I tried the goat cheese a few times Rosey. I could not take the smell. And I'm a fiber spinner! It's okay as a fiber but not in cheese . Thats just me .

I'm not sugar free because I'm still indulging in soft serve ice cream. I did give it up for almost a year after my cancer diagnosis. I have never been a total vegan in my life, I've always had dairy and eggs. The high carbs In my diet probably negate any possibility of being sugar free.

I relax about it. I believe for the most part I'm doing pretty good. Any time I do taste things with lots of sugar or honey I know right away and discard it " with out guilt" ;-) Anyone who wants to eat a low sugar diet wil know how difficult that can be in company. I find I recoil from really sweet things. They don't feel healthy. I belive thats trusting our cravings . The less sugar we get in our diets over a long period of time the less we like really sweet prepared foods.

Brilliantly Said!

I agree: we should generally trust muy body's cravings, and since having given up sugar almost entirely a year ago (at diagnosis), I lost any real craving for it. The only sweet I can't pass without longing (though I never succumb to it!) is flaky pastry, especially good old-fashioned Jewish cheese Danish.

But I agree that once we abstain for a long time, we become sensitized to sweets, so that when we taste something that's harmfully sweet, we recoil!

Rosey

RoseyR · December 2011

Rewriter said:
FIGS and goat cheese
Rosey,

I have been eating dried figs because ten of them provide 269 mg. of calcium, about as much as a cup of skim milk or 8 oz. of lowfat yogurt. Also, figs are an alkaline-forming food.

As for the goat cheese, it has almost twice the amount of protein and half the fat of cream cheese. In addition, it is only mildly inflammatory. There are 8g of fat in one ounce, and your sandwich probably does not contain much more than that.

If you love this sandwich, it's really not that bad! In fact, it contains some very beneficial nutrients.

Enjoy,

Jill

Great to Know This ...

Thanks, Jill, for assuring me that goat cheese has just half the fat of cream cheese; even the goat cheese that I do eat on sandwiches is from a small local health-food restaurant, "Pure Fare" that assures us all their dairy products are organic.

It's also great to know that the figs I adore have an alkaline effect on the body. As soon as my final exam grades are in for the semester, I'm going to use my sabbatical leave to study, among other things, how to keep my diet as alkaline as possible: something you've excelled at.

You'd also mentioned that you indulge in a glass (or two?) of red wine occasionally. I was able to abstain even without longings for seven to eight months during treatment, but with the cold weather setting in have to admit I'm tempted to have one glass with dinner a FEW nights a week. Does anyone know how harmful this might be? (Yes, red wine has benefits but it is acidic, right? And it does raise our blood sugar unless we consume food along with it, right?)

Championing some pleasure, some joie de vivre!

Rosey

RoseyR · December 2011

jazzy1 said:
Rosey
I used to be a huge junkie with supplements and per my nutritionist have cut back many...getting so much more from my good eating habits. Still working on more outta here

I take --

vit d
Digestive enzymes (probiotic)
Stamets 7 (mushrooms)
BioSil (bone strengthener)
COQ10
Fish oil (thinking this will go as get much with my diet...just have some of these left in inventory)

When I make my protein shake I as well add flax seed powder, organic chia seeds and cinnamon spice (lots of antioxidant). Brazil nuts are great for selenium....did you know this? Got rid of my supplement and replaced with nuts.

What do others take supplement-wise?

Jan

More on CO-Q-10 and Stamets

Jan,

Aside from one whey protein shake every morning, I too continue to take the following:

one scoop of ProGreens in glass of water each morning before breakfast (I swear this has helped me feel good throughout treatment and protected my intestines: lots of chlorella, probiotics, spirulina, and so forth);

fish oil (by Pharmax, two tsps a day)

curcumin (Meriva or Life Extension), 500 x 3 a day

AHCC (mushroom extract routinely given to cancer patients in Japan); would like to know how Stamets compares to it. AHCC is pretty expensive at full dosage (six capusles a day), about 200 dollars a month! My integrative doctor strongly recommends it, however although I believe that Shitake is its dominant mushroom (mixed with others, however);

six multivitamns by Pure called "Nutrient 050" (no copper or iron in them)

5 milligrams of melatonin about an hour before bed
____________

So can you elaborate a bit on why you're taking Co-Q 10? I do know it's generally tonic for the cardiovascular system and in a few studies, it seemed to help ovarian cancer patients during chemo.

And how about your own mushroom product?

Were both prescribed by an integrative doctor?

Thanks,
Rosey

Rewriter · December 2011

RoseyR said:
Great to Know This ...

Thanks, Jill, for assuring me that goat cheese has just half the fat of cream cheese; even the goat cheese that I do eat on sandwiches is from a small local health-food restaurant, "Pure Fare" that assures us all their dairy products are organic.

It's also great to know that the figs I adore have an alkaline effect on the body. As soon as my final exam grades are in for the semester, I'm going to use my sabbatical leave to study, among other things, how to keep my diet as alkaline as possible: something you've excelled at.

You'd also mentioned that you indulge in a glass (or two?) of red wine occasionally. I was able to abstain even without longings for seven to eight months during treatment, but with the cold weather setting in have to admit I'm tempted to have one glass with dinner a FEW nights a week. Does anyone know how harmful this might be? (Yes, red wine has benefits but it is acidic, right? And it does raise our blood sugar unless we consume food along with it, right?)

Championing some pleasure, some joie de vivre!

Rosey

Rosey--

Red wine contains resveratrol, which is anti-inflammatory, protects the heart, and lowers blood sugar. Thus, my opinion is that having a few glasses a week is not harmful at all.

The recommendation is that if you do not drink, don't start. Resveratrol is also in grapes and some other fruits. I'll stick to my wine, though.

Cheers!

Jill

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