Salty taste???

michdjp
michdjp Member Posts: 220
in Head and Neck Cancer #1
Hi everyone,

My dad is almost 4 weeks out of treatment. He is swallowing somewhat now and even tried some broths, however, he still has phlegm and when he spits it out he cannot believe how salty it seems to be now. It is driving him crazy and doesn't care to try to eat anything because of the salty taste. Has anyone experienced this? Is there any way to get rid of this taste?
Also how is the magic mineral broth? I have heard good things about it (just seems like a lot of odd ingredients to find)
thanks for always helping us!
Hope all is well
Michelle

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  • KTeacher
    KTeacher Member Posts: 1,103 Member
    #2
    Magic Mineral Broth
    I love the stuff. I have shared the recipe with so many people in my family and friends. We all use it for our broth for any soups that we make now. If you can't find some of the ingredients (seaweed is the only one I can't get in my town) I figure you are getting so much from what you put into it that it is still good. The recipe came to me the week that water was starting to hurt. The aroma stimulates the apetite and it went down like silk. I was able to see Rebacca Katz in person and in her demo she had too much salt in the carrot soup that she was making. She added lemon juice and maple syrup (not much). She uses an acromym, FASS, Fat (olive oil) Acid (lemon juice) Sweet (Grade B Maple syrup) Salt, Sea Salt. Everyone's taste is different and it changes throughout treatment and recovery. Try adding these things (small amounts) to the food that you prepare and see if that helps. She does have a few recipes online.
  • robinleigh
    robinleigh Member Posts: 297
    #3
    Salty taste
    My husband had the exact same thing .. I did not add salt to anything and he felt like he was literally crushing salt grains in his mouth. We did cream of wheat, smoothies, milk shakes until it gradually improved. I personally think it was a side effect from chemo and it gets better. Good luck to you!
  • michdjp
    michdjp Member Posts: 220
    #4
    robinleigh said:

    Salty taste
    My husband had the exact same thing .. I did not add salt to anything and he felt like he was literally crushing salt grains in his mouth. We did cream of wheat, smoothies, milk shakes until it gradually improved. I personally think it was a side effect from chemo and it gets better. Good luck to you!

    Thank you I will read this
    Thank you I will read this to him so at least hes not crazy and it WILL improve! Thank you
    Michelle
  • michdjp
    michdjp Member Posts: 220
    #5
    KTeacher said:

    Magic Mineral Broth
    I love the stuff. I have shared the recipe with so many people in my family and friends. We all use it for our broth for any soups that we make now. If you can't find some of the ingredients (seaweed is the only one I can't get in my town) I figure you are getting so much from what you put into it that it is still good. The recipe came to me the week that water was starting to hurt. The aroma stimulates the apetite and it went down like silk. I was able to see Rebacca Katz in person and in her demo she had too much salt in the carrot soup that she was making. She added lemon juice and maple syrup (not much). She uses an acromym, FASS, Fat (olive oil) Acid (lemon juice) Sweet (Grade B Maple syrup) Salt, Sea Salt. Everyone's taste is different and it changes throughout treatment and recovery. Try adding these things (small amounts) to the food that you prepare and see if that helps. She does have a few recipes online.

    Thanks I will try making
    Thanks I will try making this. How long did you cook it for (4-24 hours) ?
    Michelle
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    #6
    Salty taste
    Yep. It sucks. When I first started to eat again it was so disgusting. Everything burned, was so salty and basically inedible. I had always hated sweets, but for some reason, sweets tasted better than anything savory, because the savory tasted like a salt lick. For a while I lived on shakes made with Haagen Dazs vanilla ice cream, and BoltHouse Farms Drinks. Specifically, the Hazelnut, Mocha Cappuccino, Blueberry, Berry Boost and the Strawberry Banana.

    If you cannot find all the ingredients in the Magic Mineral Broth, a roasted vegetable broth is good too, but if he isn't a vegetarian, a good bone broth meat stock is very full of vitamins and minerals that a recovering body needs. Don't add any salt though.

    I have never found a way to dissipate that taste. I just subsisted on things that weren't like disgusting salt. Like, more sweet things. Bananas, yogurt, shakes like I said before, avocados, coconut milk, and Amish macaroni salad was tolerable. I'd actually add some avocado to that. Sour cream also seemed to cut some burn and some saltiness to some things.
  • michdjp
    michdjp Member Posts: 220
    #7
    KTeacher said:

    Magic Mineral Broth
    I love the stuff. I have shared the recipe with so many people in my family and friends. We all use it for our broth for any soups that we make now. If you can't find some of the ingredients (seaweed is the only one I can't get in my town) I figure you are getting so much from what you put into it that it is still good. The recipe came to me the week that water was starting to hurt. The aroma stimulates the apetite and it went down like silk. I was able to see Rebacca Katz in person and in her demo she had too much salt in the carrot soup that she was making. She added lemon juice and maple syrup (not much). She uses an acromym, FASS, Fat (olive oil) Acid (lemon juice) Sweet (Grade B Maple syrup) Salt, Sea Salt. Everyone's taste is different and it changes throughout treatment and recovery. Try adding these things (small amounts) to the food that you prepare and see if that helps. She does have a few recipes online.

    Thanks I will try making
    Thanks I will try making this. How long did you cook it for (4-24 hours) ?
    Michelle
  • michdjp
    michdjp Member Posts: 220
    #8
    sweetblood22 said:

    Salty taste
    Yep. It sucks. When I first started to eat again it was so disgusting. Everything burned, was so salty and basically inedible. I had always hated sweets, but for some reason, sweets tasted better than anything savory, because the savory tasted like a salt lick. For a while I lived on shakes made with Haagen Dazs vanilla ice cream, and BoltHouse Farms Drinks. Specifically, the Hazelnut, Mocha Cappuccino, Blueberry, Berry Boost and the Strawberry Banana.

    If you cannot find all the ingredients in the Magic Mineral Broth, a roasted vegetable broth is good too, but if he isn't a vegetarian, a good bone broth meat stock is very full of vitamins and minerals that a recovering body needs. Don't add any salt though.

    I have never found a way to dissipate that taste. I just subsisted on things that weren't like disgusting salt. Like, more sweet things. Bananas, yogurt, shakes like I said before, avocados, coconut milk, and Amish macaroni salad was tolerable. I'd actually add some avocado to that. Sour cream also seemed to cut some burn and some saltiness to some things.

    Thank you. You have soo many
    Thank you. You have soo many similarities to my dad (his tongue burns and is sensitive to cold, he tastes salt) I will read your post to him and see if he will try the shakes (so far nothing interests him) although he never really ate ice cream and was not so much into shakes and smoothies but we have to start somewhere! If you ask him what he wants it would be a nice hot roll with butter, roasted turkey, ham and cheese sandwich on Italian bread or whatever looks good on TV at the moment (nothing close to broths or smoothies)! !
    As we approach Thanksgiving our family is just very thankful to be done with treatment and in recovery but most of all to just be here and together.
    I am grateful to have had this network to try to get through this.
    To all of you wherever you may be enjoy your day
    Thanks
    Hope all is well
    Michelle
  • ratface
    ratface Member Posts: 1,337 Member
    #9
    michdjp said:

    Thank you. You have soo many
    Thank you. You have soo many similarities to my dad (his tongue burns and is sensitive to cold, he tastes salt) I will read your post to him and see if he will try the shakes (so far nothing interests him) although he never really ate ice cream and was not so much into shakes and smoothies but we have to start somewhere! If you ask him what he wants it would be a nice hot roll with butter, roasted turkey, ham and cheese sandwich on Italian bread or whatever looks good on TV at the moment (nothing close to broths or smoothies)! !
    As we approach Thanksgiving our family is just very thankful to be done with treatment and in recovery but most of all to just be here and together.
    I am grateful to have had this network to try to get through this.
    To all of you wherever you may be enjoy your day
    Thanks
    Hope all is well
    Michelle

    Yep, same thing with me
    everything I ate tasted like pure salt. This lasted several months. The reason lies somewhere in the order of tastebud regeneration. I don't know if it's because the bitter comes back first or what? I do know it goes away eventually and now I have a sweet tooth like never before.
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    #10
    ratface said:

    Yep, same thing with me
    everything I ate tasted like pure salt. This lasted several months. The reason lies somewhere in the order of tastebud regeneration. I don't know if it's because the bitter comes back first or what? I do know it goes away eventually and now I have a sweet tooth like never before.

    Sweet tooth, major sweet tooth!
    Exactly! I never hardly ate any sweets before this mess. I never ate ice cream. Rarely ate cakes and that. I would eat and enjoy chocolate sometimes. Now, forget it. I bake stuff for myself now all the time. Though I do try to make the muffins a little bit healthy by adding fruits, veg and whole grains to what I make. Like the last cake I made was a spice cake, but I added two pears, a large grated carrot and Quaker oats. My family also ate some and thought it was just a carrot cake with pears. I have a treat almost every day, and I never, ever was like that before. I think after going so many months with no food, if I want something I'm going to eat it and that's that.
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    #11
    michdjp said:

    Thank you. You have soo many
    Thank you. You have soo many similarities to my dad (his tongue burns and is sensitive to cold, he tastes salt) I will read your post to him and see if he will try the shakes (so far nothing interests him) although he never really ate ice cream and was not so much into shakes and smoothies but we have to start somewhere! If you ask him what he wants it would be a nice hot roll with butter, roasted turkey, ham and cheese sandwich on Italian bread or whatever looks good on TV at the moment (nothing close to broths or smoothies)! !
    As we approach Thanksgiving our family is just very thankful to be done with treatment and in recovery but most of all to just be here and together.
    I am grateful to have had this network to try to get through this.
    To all of you wherever you may be enjoy your day
    Thanks
    Hope all is well
    Michelle

    Starting somewhere.
    Trust me, I didn't want to board the smoothie or broth train either. I would love an everything bagel with a fried egg, Taylor ham and cheese, but that ain't gonna happen, probably not in this life time anyway. :(

    I find it's far less frustrating if you set your self up for success and not failure, by starting with things that are easier to eat and working your way up to the harder things. Took me a loooooong time to eat. Years. Talk about a study in patience. :p Patience is not my forté. Hope your dad has an easy time getting back into eating again!

    I have to say, due to some cruddy circumstances tonight, I did not cook a proper dinner for myself. For reasons I will not get into, I thought I would actually try an Elio's frozen pizza. Not healthy, & kinda gross, I know, whatever. Anyway, I've not even been able to do even that kind of "pizza". I am happy to say, that I was actually able to eat the whole piece and it actually, tasted like Elio's pizza. Only took 30 months. I'm encouraged to try an actual piece of pizza again and see if it's doable.
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    #12
    Salty Taste
    I think it is part of the norm for us to have the salty taste. I had to keep washing my mouth and nasal area out sometimes 3 times a day. If you want have your Dad wash out his sinus using NeilMed Sinus Rinse and baking soda for the mouth, that is about what I remember doing.

    http://www.neilmed.com/usa/sinusrinse_video.php

    Hope it helps
    Hondo
  • jim and i
    jim and i Member Posts: 1,788 Member
    #13
    ocean water
    Jim could not even drink water. He said water tasted like the ocean. Baking soda rinse helped some but it was even salty. It lasted about a month for him but everyone is different. Hope this side effect clears up fast for your dad.

    Debbie

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