Does a post like this "there is healing in the name of Jesus" posted in the Cancer Forums hurt or he

laurettas said:

Yoga explanation
This might explain better what I am trying to say about yoga:

Swami Sivasiva Palana writing in the January 1991 issue of Hinduism Today: "A small army of yoga missionaries . . . beautifully trained in the last 10 years, is about to set upon the Western world. They may not call themselves Hindu, but Hindu knows where yoga came from and where it goes."


What is Yoga?

According to Iyengar Yoga Resources, yoga comes from the Sanskrit word yuj meaning to yoke or unite.

In India, yoga is considered one of the six branches of classical Hindu philosophy and is referred to in ancient Indian scriptures, the Vedas. Its goal is to reach kaivalya — "ultimate freedom" — by releasing the soul from the chains of cause-and-effect [karma] which tie the person to continual reincarnation. Yoga uses physical exercises, powers of concentration and breathing techniques, as well as meditation, to achieve that end.

Father James Manjackal, a popular retreat master in India, described yoga to Catherine Maria Rhodes of the Catholic Media Coalition in this way: It is a spiritual discipline purporting to lead the soul to samadhi, the state in which the natural and divine become one.

"It is interesting to note that postures and breathing exercises, often considered to be the whole of yoga in the West, are steps three and four towards union with Brahman in the East," Father Manjackal said.


'Christian' yoga?

Many Western yoga practitioners claim yoga transcends religion and can be practiced independent of its Hindu roots — or that it can even be "Christianized," becoming, in effect, "Christian yoga."

But many experts don’t believe such a thing is possible.

"Yoga renamed is still Hindu," said Subhas R. Tiwari, a professor at the Hindu University of America, who holds a master’s degree in yoga philosophy.

Tiwari finds "Christianizing" yoga suspect, as well as wrong-headed. "This effort to extricate yoga from its Hindu mold, and cast it under another name, is far from innocent. Newly minted 'Christian yoga' is really yoga," he said.

"The simple, immutable fact is that yoga originated from the Vedic, or Hindu, culture," Tiwari added. "Its techniques were not ‘adopted’ by Hinduism, but originated from it."



"However much proponents insist that these techniques are valuable as methods, and imply no teaching contrary to Christianity," he writes, "the techniques in themselves . . . in their own context, the postures and exercises, are designed for their specific religious purpose.

"Even when they are carried out within a Christian atmosphere, the intrinsic meaning of these gestures remains intact."

bluerose said:

Hello Phil
Even 'hit and run' posts as you describe them to me are just a sign of a person who wants to spread the word because that person so deeply believes and wants to help others. I don't know, online who really knows who anyone is and why they say and do the things they do and really, does it matter? Like you said, and I agree, people's beliefs are powerful so let's let them have those beliefs and not worry about it or question it too deeply. I don't see the point in that.

I had an out of body experience too once when I was a teen and it was so strange. I actually realized that I was looking down on myself while I was meditating and could feel the cold walls up in the corner of the room where I was watching myself. It scared me though so I somehow zoomed back into my body but I can tell you that changes you when you go through something like that. As did the healing I had.

Yup I agree different people have different ways of looking at any experience but the healing I had not only contained the feeling of heat going through me deliberately but I had an inner message confirming (in a voice but not a voice - inside - sort of like what you would think telephathy is like) confirming to my thoughts that 'yes, this is a healing from God and it won't be back)' - the cancer won't be back. I have of course had dreams before, hallucinations from bad medical reactions too, and this wasn't like any of those, not even close. I really wish you could experience something like this as I wish this for all who deal with any adversity, it changes you. The frustration of not being believed or knowing that people won't take the information as proof something is out there and watching over us is hard to handle sometimes. For that reason I like to look at people who post spiritual issues as people who KNOW the truth and just want to help.

Again, dats my 3 cents.

Have a good day Phil.

Bluerose

laurettas said:

A couple of points
Most yoga is done with a trainer or whatever you want to call them. They may be imparting their religious element into what they are leading you to do and you would have no idea.

Also, I once owned a Ouija board. I looked at it as another board game(I was an atheist). However, it gave me answers, correct answers to questions I did not know the answers to. My ignorance of what I was doing had no effect on the ability of the object to do something supernatural. Your opinions, I believe, are only valid if there is no supernatural world. Since I believe that there are beings above my human nature, I believe that the supernatural can work whether we believe or not. We merely need invite them in--even unknowingly.

But whether you believe that or not, is not the point of this discussion, is it? If someone perceives it as religious proselytizing then it should not be permitted, should it?