Calcium and an anti-cancer diet

california_artist said:

jana
Salt, Calcium Excretion and Stones (dang it, i forgot to get the url)

"...Sodium intake has turned out to be important in creating excess urinary excretion of calcium. In a critical review "Dietary Salt, Urinary Calcium, and Kidney Stone Risk" the authors found stone formers may be more sensitive to salt intake than non-stone formers and that a reduced intake of salt may decrease the risk of kidney stone formation(4).

Additionally, high sodium intake has been associated with urinary calcium losses contributing to postmenopausal osteoporosis and bone loss, particularly for those with a low calcium intake. This study showed that sodium may also be responsible for the high urinary calcium seen in kidney stone patients. Sodium was as important, or more important, than dietary calcium in determining how much calcium was excreted in stone forming patients..."

Time spent on google -- 3 minutes to find articl, had to revise search words a few times.

Since I never knew this, thanks for the challenge. this information is very important.


Kisses my friend. That's blown in the air kisses.

For those of you interested in your calcium intake, please be sure to only use calcium citrate as a supplement. Calcium carbonate is what chalk is made of and just like chalk snaps, it can make bones stronger and denser, BUT more likely to snap too.

Another thing to consider when thinking of supplements, and dairy products, elehpants, horses, and rhinos DON'T drink milk. They get their calcium from grasses and such. Milk after infancy--not such a great idea.

Meat and soda also leach calcium out of your bones. It's the phosphorous I believe. I just woke up so that may not be right about the phosphorous but it is right about the meat and soda, both highly acidic foods.

Portabella mushrooms have in the neighborhood of 670 ?? of potasium. Have that and some swiss chard and life is good again. Ah? where was I going with this, oh yeah--potasium helps escort sodium out of the body and does it rather quickly. Also, remember that low potasium can signal higher cancer incidence. My potasium was in the 2's when I got my cancer. Also, low potasium will kill you outright long before the cancer gets you if it's low enough and I thin the low 2's might do it.

Here's that url http://www.calciuminfo.com/calciumquestions/kidneystones.aspx

Interestingly, after picking up the whole article and reading the conclusion, which said to use supplements for you calcium in addition to food, and suggesting calcium carbonate supplements, I notice that it was put up there by Glaxo Smith Kline. Bet they make calcium carbonate supplements. None the less the studies were most likely valid, they just had a vested interest in getting a reason to take their product out there, maybe, that's a big maybe as I didn't check to see if they made calcium carbonate supplements, I just jumped to a conclusion. anyone want to sue me????

culka said:

Oh dear
with my not reliable source of internet I have to used you. I can explain lot of things, but in different languages and it takes lots of shaking my head to find correct english word.

Potassium is culprit, not enough is bad, but too much is bad too. With that
http://cronometer.com/download/ I can see how much I have. Excellent source are bananas. RDA is 4700mg. I can see any problems when it is even 6000mg. RDA for vitamin C is 60mg. I had some kind of cold yesterday and it took almost 15g to introduce diarrhea. And of course I'm fine today.

Rewriter said:

Kathy, welcome back!
I am so happy that your family vacation was rejuvenating. Where did you go? Vacations are so important to our health.

Thank you for your kind words about my physical exam; I know that the results are a testament to the impact of food choices and exercise on our health.

I am thrilled that the discussions on this board have encouraged you and your family to make changes to your diet. For starters, eliminating processed food will greatly benefit all of you. Try to buy and cook fresh fruits and vegetables, as they are so much healthier than the canned and even frozen versions. If you focus on what's in season, you can also be a locavore, helping your community by buying and cooking what is produced at farms and orchards in the area.

You know that I and others are here to support you in your dietary changes. Remember, through these changes I got off blood pressure meds, lowered my cholesterol by at least 40 points, returned the one enlarged chamber of my heart to normal size, and am (oh, I hope, I hope, I hope) repelling any stray cancer cells. I am mentioning all of this not to brag but to say that I have proof that the diet I am on is working.

Love to you and to all of the women here. I can't thank you enough for all of your information and support.

Jill

Rewriter said:

Thank you, Karen
I just logged on to my computer to do a search for just the type of website you recommended. It's a great idea to keep a food log; and the fact that I now have a source for not just nutritional values, but inflammatory factors as well, is a total godsend. Thank you!

Some of your recipes have become staples of my diet as well, so thank you again.

My plan now is to start weight-bearing exercises to strengthen my bones. Does anyone know how I can do these without having to join a gym? I carry my pooch up and down three flights of stairs about five times a day; does that count?

As for the benefit of lifestyle and dietary changes to improve our health, many of us on this board are doing just that; and I hope everyone is reaping the rewards. I think the most important changes I've made are to keep away from sugar, to have several portions of the turmeric/olive oil/pepper blend a day, to use ginger liberally, and to drink green tea with meals.

Am I being a nag to those who don't yet embrace these anticancer dietary approaches? I really believe that they work.

Love,

Jill

california_artist said:

Jan,
Thank you so much for that fantastic chart reference. Truly.

Most charts include veggies like spinach and kale as great sources of calcium, which leads people to include them in their salads and presume they are getting a good source of calcium, but unless they are cooked for long periods, one hour in the case of kale, their calcium stores are only slightly bioavailable. Which makes me swear at Sally Field every time she comes on and suggests women eat spinach to up their calcium intake along with whatever that pill is she is recommending.(edit-I see someone mentioned fosamax that was it I think)

this is what I am talking about in the chart. I noticed right away these weren't included, as I went looking for them.

· Spinach, Rhubarb, Beet Greens, and Swiss Chard are all very high in calcium. However, due to their very low absorption rates (approximately 5%), we have excluded them from our list.

For some reason I missed all this until now. I will go back and read all the other comments.

Jan, in regards to your husband's blood pressure. For many, the most important factor in blood pressure is sodium. Have your husband limit his sodium intake to under 400mg for a week or two and see if that doesn't lower the pressure. Best to have a bp monitor at home. If not, you will know it's lowered if he feels light headed upon standing after a few days of lowering sodium.

Your comments on your bone density becoming normal again have given me hope that I can fix mine too. Although there is something odd going on with me that no one seems concerned about. I think enlarged spleen and enlarged and fatty liver, plus low potassium, muscle weakness on one side only, and osteopenia, AND a CR-P of 9.8 that should be .1, would raise some alarms, but no doctor I have seen so far seems to give a hoot. even with diet corrections, I still have high LDL and low HDL.

That is my next challenge to figure out what is going on, now that I seem to have gotten the cancer to slow down appreciably.

I am going to challenge myself to fix these problems within six months. I'll have to keep on with the search for what is causing them, but I'll be vigilant in trying to correct my liver problems first to see if that doesn't help everything else too. Strangely, with a fatty liver one has to be very careful to NOT lower fat intake too much nor to try to lose weight quickly, which is all very frustrating. apparently, because the liver is already not functioning well, the added burden weight loss presents actually can make a fatty liver worse. Oh, joy.

Aren't we all just something else in our ability to help and support one another in this part of the longer journey of our lives.

Love you guys. You all make me smile and feel all warm and fuzzy.

Kisses and hugs,

Claudia

california_artist said:

Karen
thanks. My doctors have been a real disappointment, except for one woman that I just loved, but she moved and what's left is less than stellar. I think I mentioned the time I needed an antibiotic for an infection in the soft tissue and bone in my jaw, and the doc refused that but instead made an appointment for three weeks down the road, with a neurologist, said I had shingles, the pain was keeping me up at night, didn't have any of the symptoms of shingles, but she was sure that was the issue. Say what. I cancelled with them and went to the ER where he gave me an antibiotic, some pain meds and scolded me for not going to a doctor. I had a dentist appointment but it was for six weeks in the future. Beggars can't be choosers so they have to figure things out on their own.

The problems I still have, showed up on the first PET/CT. At that point I was relying entirely on doctors for my care and had no idea of how to treat myself. I had never heard of non alcoholic fatty liver disease. I had that year when brown rice was my friend to a huge extent and I was unable to exercise due to a foot issue, couldn't barely walk. I think that is when all my trouble began. Up to that point I had been very healthy for the most part. also moving from California to the upper peninsula where the weather is sucky much of the year was very different from being able to get out and exercise, go for bike rides and long hikes in the sonoma country side. I still hate it here. Feel like I'm mostly dead, just no one has come to bury me yet. Boy, sorry, didn't realize I was in such a pitiful mood. Think I'll go make some Chamomile tea and get a grip.

Love ya,

claudia