Avastin/Ox for Dummies...........
Last Monday he went for a PET.
Yesterday we got the results.
The colon/rectum area looks good, but he has "new" liver, lung and prostate cancer.
They want to do Avastin/Oxaliplatin, gave us a print out on each and are in process of scheduling port surgery. We are both in shock. Don't remember half of what was told to us. We know that it will all come to us eventually, but we really want to know what to expect. They said something about injection through port then send him home with a pump that he will use for 2 days, wait a week and repeat. This morning we looked at each other at the same time and said "huh???". Can anyone tells us what to expect?
Still in shock....Deb
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The treatment is known as
Folfox with Avastin.
FOLFOX is a chemotherapy regimen for treatment of colorectal cancer, made up of the drugs
FOL– Folinic acid (leucovorin)
F – Fluorouracil (5-FU)
OX – Oxaliplatin (Eloxatin)[1]
Leucovorin is basically a vitamin, and is used to improve the absorption of the Fluorouracil. The half life for 5FU is very short, so to maximize the effectiveness it is given in a continuous small dose over a long period of time (this is the bag. It is carried for about 42 hours).
Oxaliplatin is a Platinum based drug that is known to be effective in CRC.
Expect some of the side effects to include diarrhea, constipation, stomach cramps, cold sensitivity (at the fingertips, and at soft tissues. NO ICED drinks or frozen foods for at least the first week after each treatment!)
Neuropathy, expressed as a loss of sensation or numbness in the hands and feet is a common side effect of the platinum drugs, and should be monitored. There are some treatments that can be added that soften the effect, but if it gets bad he may want to stop Oxaliplatin and move to Folfiri, which substitutes Irinotecan for the Oxaliplatin.
There is a shortage of Leucovorin, so he may get Xeloda, a pill form of 5FU.
Avastin is what is referred to as a biological, and is different from chemo. It is also called a targeted therapy. It works as an anti-angiogenesis agent, preventing the formation of new blood vessels to the tumor, effectively starving it. There are side effects, some of them serious and most of them unlikely, but you should discuss those with a medical professional.
I understand the numbness of the first appointment. May I suggest that you schedule a follow-up with the chemo nurse to go over the treatment one more time, and to bring along a recording device. Most smart phones have one built in that is quite adequate, and if one is not built in it can be added at the devices app store, usually at no cost.
You should also ask about other drugs that are part of the regimen, but meant to control side effects. These can include anti-nausea drugs, anti-cramping drugs and powerful steroids, each of which can have its own side effects you, as a caregiver, should be aware of.
This is a simplified explanation of what he might experience. The severity of each side effect varies greatly from individual to individual. Keep the oncologist's number handy, and be prepared to call him at all hours if you have a concern about what your husband is experiencing. You will often get the exchange, but someone from the office is always on-call and will call you back promptly.
Hope this helps,
Blake0 -
First of all feel very sorry for the bad news Deb!Buckwirth said:The treatment is known as
Folfox with Avastin.
FOLFOX is a chemotherapy regimen for treatment of colorectal cancer, made up of the drugs
FOL– Folinic acid (leucovorin)
F – Fluorouracil (5-FU)
OX – Oxaliplatin (Eloxatin)[1]
Leucovorin is basically a vitamin, and is used to improve the absorption of the Fluorouracil. The half life for 5FU is very short, so to maximize the effectiveness it is given in a continuous small dose over a long period of time (this is the bag. It is carried for about 42 hours).
Oxaliplatin is a Platinum based drug that is known to be effective in CRC.
Expect some of the side effects to include diarrhea, constipation, stomach cramps, cold sensitivity (at the fingertips, and at soft tissues. NO ICED drinks or frozen foods for at least the first week after each treatment!)
Neuropathy, expressed as a loss of sensation or numbness in the hands and feet is a common side effect of the platinum drugs, and should be monitored. There are some treatments that can be added that soften the effect, but if it gets bad he may want to stop Oxaliplatin and move to Folfiri, which substitutes Irinotecan for the Oxaliplatin.
There is a shortage of Leucovorin, so he may get Xeloda, a pill form of 5FU.
Avastin is what is referred to as a biological, and is different from chemo. It is also called a targeted therapy. It works as an anti-angiogenesis agent, preventing the formation of new blood vessels to the tumor, effectively starving it. There are side effects, some of them serious and most of them unlikely, but you should discuss those with a medical professional.
I understand the numbness of the first appointment. May I suggest that you schedule a follow-up with the chemo nurse to go over the treatment one more time, and to bring along a recording device. Most smart phones have one built in that is quite adequate, and if one is not built in it can be added at the devices app store, usually at no cost.
You should also ask about other drugs that are part of the regimen, but meant to control side effects. These can include anti-nausea drugs, anti-cramping drugs and powerful steroids, each of which can have its own side effects you, as a caregiver, should be aware of.
This is a simplified explanation of what he might experience. The severity of each side effect varies greatly from individual to individual. Keep the oncologist's number handy, and be prepared to call him at all hours if you have a concern about what your husband is experiencing. You will often get the exchange, but someone from the office is always on-call and will call you back promptly.
Hope this helps,
Blake
I have been in both FOLFOX and FOLFIRI, to me FOLOX was easer to deal with than FOLFIRI, the worst on folfox is the neuropathy the one I had was a very light and manageable one ,beside that not major issues on me!
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So sorry to hear this
This really stinks...Buckwirth explained it really good. I wish you all the best and pray the treatment works fast and clears everything up. Praying hard.
Jeff0 -
This news just sucks, whatsteveandnat said:So sorry to hear this
This really stinks...Buckwirth explained it really good. I wish you all the best and pray the treatment works fast and clears everything up. Praying hard.
Jeff
This news just sucks, what more can I say. I am assuming it's the colon cancer that has spread to these areas, or is this a different cancer??0 -
Terrible
So sorry for this knews. Wishing you the best in this new treatment and hoping that it is effective and getting rid of it.
Kim0 -
We really don't know yet........smokeyjoe said:This news just sucks, what
This news just sucks, what more can I say. I am assuming it's the colon cancer that has spread to these areas, or is this a different cancer??
We have appt tomorrow with onc to go over everything. He went in this Monday for regularly (last) scheduled chemo and his chemo dr gave him a printout of the PET and the two meds I mentioned. Didn't get into who, what, why, just "we're gonna make a ton a money off you". (I'm being very bi!@*Y there, of course, he didn't say that!)
We love our oncologist.....he takes lots of time to explain things, helps guide us through, but even he doesn't answer the questions like this board does. He's never had cancer and can't explain it to a dummy like me in terms I can understand.
Blake, your explanation is fantastic. I found all this info on web, but simplifying it made it so much easier.
Thank you everyone else for your warm sentiments. Means so much and helps me put one foot in front of the other.
Deb0 -
Dear DebAnnabelle41415 said:Terrible
So sorry for this knews. Wishing you the best in this new treatment and hoping that it is effective and getting rid of it.
Kim
So sorry for this let down. This will be sorted through and a good treatment plan will be put in place. Doesn't it seem like it's always - one foot forward, then 10 inches backwards. I know that's what the last 9 months have been for me. You are not alone. Take good care and ask anything that you need to. One day at a time (my new motto).0 -
First of all I am so sorry
First of all I am so sorry for this icky news but I want to tell you the folfox shrunk my husbands tumors by 80% making everything operable. Have the party Deb, make it a war party. I know just what you mean about we are gonna make a but load of money off of you, that is the way we were treated by the first onc. I hope you never ever have to feel that way again. God bless you and your husband, you are in my prayers.
Brenda0
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