Alkaline diet versus the anti-cancer diet

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  • RoseyR
    RoseyR Member Posts: 471 Member

    Jill
    Do you feel that eating red light foods is a precursor or will lead to imbibing in the red light district?

    How you doin'?

    Just trying to lighten things up. : ~ )

    JILL AND OTHERS: Figs? Raspberries? Brown Rice?

    I try to limit fruit to berries (Anti-Cancer especially extolls raspberries for their ellagic (sp?) acid that kills cancer cells, and I plied my morning oatmeal for months with either blueberries or raspberries. Now you're saying they're too acidic?

    And FIGS, which I love, I stay away from because I've assumed they're far too SWEET. No? Please tell me I can eat them; I saw dried fruit of any kind prohibited in several books because of their sugar content.

    Find it hard to believe that brown rice can be bad for us especially as it's such a mainstay of macrobiotic diets, which purport to be anti-cancer. As long as we eat them with lentils or beans, aren't they providing a complete protein, free of animal fats?

    At one vegetarian restaurant where I love to eat, they serve "African peanut stew" full of yams and carrots (great carotenes), a bit of kale, but also some crushed peanuts but now Claudia warns us to stay away from them, too.

    And in another dish they serve seitan, kale, a bit of pineapple, and a few small pieces of roasted corn bread (I forget its name) that I just fell in love with but am afraid of the corn bread.

    Last night I had dinner with a friend and we both had a large glass of cabernet. Should probably renounce that as well?

    And though I'd drunk nothing but green tea for the past year, broke down a few weeks ago and started to have one Americano every morning at local coffee house: it's one shot of expresso in good filtered water with half the caffeine of regular coffee. Should I give this up too?

    Claudia, what DO you eat? What's a typical daily menu for you?

    Walking on tenterhooks but not yet joyless; despite initial doubts, always love my meals!

    Rosey
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493 Member
    RoseyR said:

    JILL AND OTHERS: Figs? Raspberries? Brown Rice?

    I try to limit fruit to berries (Anti-Cancer especially extolls raspberries for their ellagic (sp?) acid that kills cancer cells, and I plied my morning oatmeal for months with either blueberries or raspberries. Now you're saying they're too acidic?

    And FIGS, which I love, I stay away from because I've assumed they're far too SWEET. No? Please tell me I can eat them; I saw dried fruit of any kind prohibited in several books because of their sugar content.

    Find it hard to believe that brown rice can be bad for us especially as it's such a mainstay of macrobiotic diets, which purport to be anti-cancer. As long as we eat them with lentils or beans, aren't they providing a complete protein, free of animal fats?

    At one vegetarian restaurant where I love to eat, they serve "African peanut stew" full of yams and carrots (great carotenes), a bit of kale, but also some crushed peanuts but now Claudia warns us to stay away from them, too.

    And in another dish they serve seitan, kale, a bit of pineapple, and a few small pieces of roasted corn bread (I forget its name) that I just fell in love with but am afraid of the corn bread.

    Last night I had dinner with a friend and we both had a large glass of cabernet. Should probably renounce that as well?

    And though I'd drunk nothing but green tea for the past year, broke down a few weeks ago and started to have one Americano every morning at local coffee house: it's one shot of expresso in good filtered water with half the caffeine of regular coffee. Should I give this up too?

    Claudia, what DO you eat? What's a typical daily menu for you?

    Walking on tenterhooks but not yet joyless; despite initial doubts, always love my meals!

    Rosey

    Rosey
    Claudia shared a chart a day or two ago (in a related diet thread) that I think is good. Maybe that will help you make your food choices.


    I'll share what I eat on a typical day:

    Breakfast: oatmeal with mashed ripe bananas, raisins, crushed walnuts, and almond milk.

    Lunch: a big salad with organic spinach, romaine, often kale, tomatoes, cucumbers, avocado, and beans. If I don't have salad for lunch, I'll have it for dinner--always full of fresh vegetables and sometimes apples or mangoes.

    Dinner: I often make a soup--yesterday, I cooked butternut squash and yams and pureed them with curry powder, cinnamon and extra turmeric. This soup was really easy, but I also make a carrot-ginger bisque that starts with sauteed onions, adds carrots and fresh ginger, almond milk, and then I puree the whole thing.

    A staple for me is a chick pea and yam curry, shared by Karen and included in the recipes thread. I also cook quinoa and keep it in the fridge to eat with steamed vegetables and beans. I eat lots of beans but try to stay with the ones that are most alkaline.

    For a treat, I make a smoothie with a ripe banana and almond milk--it tastes just like a milkshake. Also, I will peel and cook apples and eat them with a little bit of cinnamon and some almond milk.

    I am not perfect, and I stray when I eat out. I do have a glass or two of red wine a couple of times a month, which I still believe have a beneficial effect. Also, when I feel a craving for more protein, I will have some fish, chicken, canned tuna, or sardines.

    Good luck!
  • jazzy1
    jazzy1 Member Posts: 1,379
    Rewriter said:

    Rosey
    Claudia shared a chart a day or two ago (in a related diet thread) that I think is good. Maybe that will help you make your food choices.


    I'll share what I eat on a typical day:

    Breakfast: oatmeal with mashed ripe bananas, raisins, crushed walnuts, and almond milk.

    Lunch: a big salad with organic spinach, romaine, often kale, tomatoes, cucumbers, avocado, and beans. If I don't have salad for lunch, I'll have it for dinner--always full of fresh vegetables and sometimes apples or mangoes.

    Dinner: I often make a soup--yesterday, I cooked butternut squash and yams and pureed them with curry powder, cinnamon and extra turmeric. This soup was really easy, but I also make a carrot-ginger bisque that starts with sauteed onions, adds carrots and fresh ginger, almond milk, and then I puree the whole thing.

    A staple for me is a chick pea and yam curry, shared by Karen and included in the recipes thread. I also cook quinoa and keep it in the fridge to eat with steamed vegetables and beans. I eat lots of beans but try to stay with the ones that are most alkaline.

    For a treat, I make a smoothie with a ripe banana and almond milk--it tastes just like a milkshake. Also, I will peel and cook apples and eat them with a little bit of cinnamon and some almond milk.

    I am not perfect, and I stray when I eat out. I do have a glass or two of red wine a couple of times a month, which I still believe have a beneficial effect. Also, when I feel a craving for more protein, I will have some fish, chicken, canned tuna, or sardines.

    Good luck!

    Jill...think you just made a great point --
    Sure makes sense that acidic foods cause inflammation, leading to disease. Check out below from Livestrong.com...excellent points.

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    Are Seaweed & Alkaline Foods Anti-Inflammatory?

    Sep 2, 2011 | By Tracey Roizman, D.C.

    Tracey Roizman, D.C., has been a freelance writer and speaker on natural and preventive health since 1995. She holds a B.S. in nutritional biochemistry, chiropractic degree, and is a postgraduate diplomate in functional neurology.
    Are Seaweed & Alkaline Foods Anti-Inflammatory? Photo Credit Jupiterimages/Photos.com/Getty Images

    Varieties of seaweed and alkalizing fruits and vegetables provide nutrient-dense and low-calorie additions to your healthy diet. These foods, which form the basis of many vegetarian styles of eating, can help delay the effects of aging and prevent some degenerative diseases. Among the health benefits of seaweed and alkalizing foods are their inflammation-reducing properties.
    Fruits and Vegetables

    Fruits and vegetables contribute the bulk of alkalizing benefits in your diet. These foods also counteract the acidifying effects of proteins and processed carbohydrates, according to Christine Lydon, author of the book, "Ten Years Thinner: Six Weeks to a Leaner, Younger-Looking You." The Western diet, high in meat protein, dairy, white flour and sugar, tips the acid-alkaline balance toward the acid end of the pH scale, which promotes inflammation. The alkalizing effects of fruits and vegetables also bring your urine into a more alkaline pH, decreasing kidney inflammation and stress and reducing your risk for developing kidney stones.
    Seaweed

    Seaweed is rich in magnesium, a mineral that helps alkalize your body. Seaweed also contains eicosapentanoic acid, an essential fatty acid known to decrease inflammation; folate; and vitamin K, according to nutritionist Barbara Rowe, author of the book, "Anti-Inflammatory Foods for Health: Hundreds of Ways to Incorporate Omega-3 Rich Foods into Your Diet to Fight Arthritis, Cancer Heart Disease and More." In a study published in the February 2011 issue of the journal, "International Immunopharmacology," doses of vitamin K inhibited inflammatory signalling molecules called cytokines, decreased levels of free radicals and decreased levels of tissue-destroying molecules.
    Multiple Effects

    Excess acid-forming foods in the diet cause a host of health problems, including inflammation, infection and joint pain, according to Claudia Pillow, Ph.D., author of "The Gluten-Free Good Health Cookbook: The Delicious Way to Strengthen Your Immune System and Neutralize Inflammation." By contrast, alkalizing foods generally contain higher nutrient value, which contributes to pathways that quell inflammation. Additionally, an acid pH damages the lining of your intestine, allowing toxins and pathogens to enter your bloodstream and activate your immune system. Illness and allergy, both of which increase inflammation, are possible outcomes.
    Lemons

    Lemons, in particular, are highly alkalizing and can decrease your levels of inflammation-promoting histamine, according to a study published in the June 2011 issue of the journal, "Phytomedicine." In the study, a combination of lemon and quince fruit reduced histamine release and inhibited immunoglobulin E, an antibody associated with allergic reactions and asthma. Squeeze some fresh lemon into a glass of water for an alkalizing start to your day.
    References

    * "Ten Years Thinner: Six Weeks to a Leaner, Younger-Looking You"; Christine Lydon; 2008
    * "Anti-Inflammatory Foods for Health: Hundreds of Ways to Incorporate Omega-3 ..."; Lisa M. Davis, et al.; 2008
    * "International Immunopharmacology"; Immune Responses to Novel Allergens and Modulation of Inflammation by Vitamin K3 Analogue: a ROS Dependent Mechanism; V. Kohli, et al.; February 2011
    * "The Gluten-Free Good Health Cookbook: The Delicious Way to Strengthen Your ..."; Annalise G. Roberts, Claudia Pillow; 2009
    * "Phytomedicine"; Immunomodulatory Properties of a Lemon-quince Preparation (Gencydo®) as an Indicator of Anti-allergic Potency; C. Gründemann, et al.; June 2011

    Article reviewed by Knuckles Last updated on: Sep 2, 2011

    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/531463-are-seaweed-alkaline-foods-anti-inflammatory/#ixzz1dFUMcJSN
  • california_artist
    california_artist Member Posts: 816 Member
    RoseyR said:

    JILL AND OTHERS: Figs? Raspberries? Brown Rice?

    I try to limit fruit to berries (Anti-Cancer especially extolls raspberries for their ellagic (sp?) acid that kills cancer cells, and I plied my morning oatmeal for months with either blueberries or raspberries. Now you're saying they're too acidic?

    And FIGS, which I love, I stay away from because I've assumed they're far too SWEET. No? Please tell me I can eat them; I saw dried fruit of any kind prohibited in several books because of their sugar content.

    Find it hard to believe that brown rice can be bad for us especially as it's such a mainstay of macrobiotic diets, which purport to be anti-cancer. As long as we eat them with lentils or beans, aren't they providing a complete protein, free of animal fats?

    At one vegetarian restaurant where I love to eat, they serve "African peanut stew" full of yams and carrots (great carotenes), a bit of kale, but also some crushed peanuts but now Claudia warns us to stay away from them, too.

    And in another dish they serve seitan, kale, a bit of pineapple, and a few small pieces of roasted corn bread (I forget its name) that I just fell in love with but am afraid of the corn bread.

    Last night I had dinner with a friend and we both had a large glass of cabernet. Should probably renounce that as well?

    And though I'd drunk nothing but green tea for the past year, broke down a few weeks ago and started to have one Americano every morning at local coffee house: it's one shot of expresso in good filtered water with half the caffeine of regular coffee. Should I give this up too?

    Claudia, what DO you eat? What's a typical daily menu for you?

    Walking on tenterhooks but not yet joyless; despite initial doubts, always love my meals!

    Rosey

    Hi, Rosey
    Would everybody stop talking about giving up the things they enjoy, please? I'm begging you.

    You want wine, fine, coffee?? fine. Just be aware that they are acidic and you should eat something alkaline to counteract them is all.

    Okay, so, there is no reason to completely avoid hardly anything except artificial sweeteners.

    I said to stay away from peanuts that appear brown or not quite right as peanuts are a source of aflatoxin, which is one of the most toxic substances on earth, causes liver cancer along with mercury.

    Brown rice--I got into trouble with brown rice because I was using too much of it and not balancing it with anything alkaline, precisely because at the time I had no idea of any of this.

    Did I say elegiac acid is too acidic???? In the beginning I ate grapes on an empty stomach BECAUSE OF THE ELEGIAC ACID. Grapes are alkaline. GRAPES BECAUSE OF THEIR SUGAR AND ELLAGIC ACID FIGHT CANCER.

    I wish we could get together to listen to one another and try to figure out the answers to all the questions at the same time so that there could be some basic understanding of what we are all trying to say. Like I said, no artificial sweeteners, other than that just be aware and try to do things in balance.

    What if one looks at it like this.

    Get a regular sheet of paper. Fold it in half both length wise and crosswise. You now have four sections. One of those sections should hold things that are acidic, the other three should be for alkaline foods. I would draw a line across the top of the acidic quarter leaving only a very small section for highly acidic foods if one must, but then draw a line sectioning off a larger portion of a section for highly alkaline foods and fill in that with three times more than the acid section.

    Try to remember that it is what you are trying to accomplish that should be your guide in how you choose your food. A person with cancer should absolutely eat those foods that attack cancer, such as berries and fruits.


    Your paper sectioned

    ALKALINE--------- ALKALINE
    ALKALINE --------- ACID

    HIGHLY ALKALINE ------------------------- HIGHLY ACIDIC
    ========================================================


    AN EXAMPLE MEAL OUT WITH FRIENDS--


    1.ALKALINE / GUACAMOLE + SALSA --------------- 2. ACIDIC/ BEANS AND RICE-- 3.ALKALINE/LARGE SALAD (AN APPLE) ----4. ALKALINE/FILTERED WATER W/LEMON+GREEN TEA

    THEN YOU WANT A DRINK-FINE WITH ME

    HIGHLY ACIDIC/alcohol----


    BALANCED BY HAVING----HIGHLY ALKALINE/wATERMELON



    SO, you just went out to dinner at a Mexican restaurant, had fun, had a drink and stayed balanced.

    That's really all I can say on this subject. It is actually beginning to stress me out.

    I have faith that you will all see your way, understanding that it's not all or nothing, it's everything in balance.

    Have coffee if you want, I do

    For breakfast today I had coffee, which I balanced with a soup made of mushrooms, two stalks of ORGANIC celery, ground to smitherines in my little ninja, along with turmeric/pepper/olive oil, green onions and oats. The oats have a strong action against cancer and make the soup thicker as I grind them to a powder first. I took an astragalus because at this time it is pretty much all I am taking although I do occasionally take some chlorella, due to its chlorophyll content.

    I love coffee. so, I have my soup too, feel as though I am fighting cancer, living stress free, and enjoying one of my true pleasures, a good strong cup of French ROAST Coffee.


    Love you all,

    Claudia
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493 Member

    Hi, Rosey
    Would everybody stop talking about giving up the things they enjoy, please? I'm begging you.

    You want wine, fine, coffee?? fine. Just be aware that they are acidic and you should eat something alkaline to counteract them is all.

    Okay, so, there is no reason to completely avoid hardly anything except artificial sweeteners.

    I said to stay away from peanuts that appear brown or not quite right as peanuts are a source of aflatoxin, which is one of the most toxic substances on earth, causes liver cancer along with mercury.

    Brown rice--I got into trouble with brown rice because I was using too much of it and not balancing it with anything alkaline, precisely because at the time I had no idea of any of this.

    Did I say elegiac acid is too acidic???? In the beginning I ate grapes on an empty stomach BECAUSE OF THE ELEGIAC ACID. Grapes are alkaline. GRAPES BECAUSE OF THEIR SUGAR AND ELLAGIC ACID FIGHT CANCER.

    I wish we could get together to listen to one another and try to figure out the answers to all the questions at the same time so that there could be some basic understanding of what we are all trying to say. Like I said, no artificial sweeteners, other than that just be aware and try to do things in balance.

    What if one looks at it like this.

    Get a regular sheet of paper. Fold it in half both length wise and crosswise. You now have four sections. One of those sections should hold things that are acidic, the other three should be for alkaline foods. I would draw a line across the top of the acidic quarter leaving only a very small section for highly acidic foods if one must, but then draw a line sectioning off a larger portion of a section for highly alkaline foods and fill in that with three times more than the acid section.

    Try to remember that it is what you are trying to accomplish that should be your guide in how you choose your food. A person with cancer should absolutely eat those foods that attack cancer, such as berries and fruits.


    Your paper sectioned

    ALKALINE--------- ALKALINE
    ALKALINE --------- ACID

    HIGHLY ALKALINE ------------------------- HIGHLY ACIDIC
    ========================================================


    AN EXAMPLE MEAL OUT WITH FRIENDS--


    1.ALKALINE / GUACAMOLE + SALSA --------------- 2. ACIDIC/ BEANS AND RICE-- 3.ALKALINE/LARGE SALAD (AN APPLE) ----4. ALKALINE/FILTERED WATER W/LEMON+GREEN TEA

    THEN YOU WANT A DRINK-FINE WITH ME

    HIGHLY ACIDIC/alcohol----


    BALANCED BY HAVING----HIGHLY ALKALINE/wATERMELON



    SO, you just went out to dinner at a Mexican restaurant, had fun, had a drink and stayed balanced.

    That's really all I can say on this subject. It is actually beginning to stress me out.

    I have faith that you will all see your way, understanding that it's not all or nothing, it's everything in balance.

    Have coffee if you want, I do

    For breakfast today I had coffee, which I balanced with a soup made of mushrooms, two stalks of ORGANIC celery, ground to smitherines in my little ninja, along with turmeric/pepper/olive oil, green onions and oats. The oats have a strong action against cancer and make the soup thicker as I grind them to a powder first. I took an astragalus because at this time it is pretty much all I am taking although I do occasionally take some chlorella, due to its chlorophyll content.

    I love coffee. so, I have my soup too, feel as though I am fighting cancer, living stress free, and enjoying one of my true pleasures, a good strong cup of French ROAST Coffee.


    Love you all,

    Claudia

    I LOVE this diet
    I don't think I have ever taken greater pleasure in my food. Plus, I generally feel so light and energetic that that improves my mood.

    Deprivation is not my way; I'm more about exploring foods so that I can choose the ones I like and attempt to obtain an acid/alkaline balance by combining them. Claudia, your Mexican dinner example is perfect, and your suggested chart is a great idea. Enjoy your eating; and if we are all choosing many different fresh fruits and vegetables and making them the centerpiece of our diets, we are probably doing just fine.

    Looking at these food charts has made me very creative, and I now cook more than ever. Fresh fruits and vegetables are so delicious, and kitchen items like Claudia's ninja chopper are an easy way to chop vegetables so they can be added to soups and stews.

    Coffee is something I will not give up, and I just started having it with about a tablespoon of half and half. My blend is beautiful French Sumatra with just a smidgen of a lighter coffee. I have one big cup but would have another if I wanted. Pleasure is anticancer.

    Love from me, too,

    Jill
  • california_artist
    california_artist Member Posts: 816 Member
    Rewriter said:

    I LOVE this diet
    I don't think I have ever taken greater pleasure in my food. Plus, I generally feel so light and energetic that that improves my mood.

    Deprivation is not my way; I'm more about exploring foods so that I can choose the ones I like and attempt to obtain an acid/alkaline balance by combining them. Claudia, your Mexican dinner example is perfect, and your suggested chart is a great idea. Enjoy your eating; and if we are all choosing many different fresh fruits and vegetables and making them the centerpiece of our diets, we are probably doing just fine.

    Looking at these food charts has made me very creative, and I now cook more than ever. Fresh fruits and vegetables are so delicious, and kitchen items like Claudia's ninja chopper are an easy way to chop vegetables so they can be added to soups and stews.

    Coffee is something I will not give up, and I just started having it with about a tablespoon of half and half. My blend is beautiful French Sumatra with just a smidgen of a lighter coffee. I have one big cup but would have another if I wanted. Pleasure is anticancer.

    Love from me, too,

    Jill

    Jill,
    Thank you. And may God bless your "Pleasure is anticancer." which I might adjust to pleasure is an anticancer diet and way of living.

    Enjoy everything. Fear only diet soda and all things with artificial sweeteners.
  • culka
    culka Member Posts: 149 Member

    Jill,
    Thank you. And may God bless your "Pleasure is anticancer." which I might adjust to pleasure is an anticancer diet and way of living.

    Enjoy everything. Fear only diet soda and all things with artificial sweeteners.

    I agree
    With every word.
    For last few days I’m listening over and over again “Healing cancer world summit”. 10 hours of interesting information sometimes controversial . My head is not big enough for this.
    For example: carrot juice. Most of these experts don’t recommended it for us due to its sugar content, but Ms. Gerson said if this juice is bad, all of their patient would died. Carrot and apple juice is a staple of gerson therapy, right? She is 90 years old, TBC survivor and she looks like 60.
    One thing all of them said. GREENS. As much as possible. Soo now I’m sitting here, writing this (second time already) and drinking carrot/cucumber/kale/celery juice. Looks as it sounds, so green, but taste is not bad.
    And by the way I had 3 coffee today, 2 normal route and 1 opposite way.
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493 Member
    culka said:

    I agree
    With every word.
    For last few days I’m listening over and over again “Healing cancer world summit”. 10 hours of interesting information sometimes controversial . My head is not big enough for this.
    For example: carrot juice. Most of these experts don’t recommended it for us due to its sugar content, but Ms. Gerson said if this juice is bad, all of their patient would died. Carrot and apple juice is a staple of gerson therapy, right? She is 90 years old, TBC survivor and she looks like 60.
    One thing all of them said. GREENS. As much as possible. Soo now I’m sitting here, writing this (second time already) and drinking carrot/cucumber/kale/celery juice. Looks as it sounds, so green, but taste is not bad.
    And by the way I had 3 coffee today, 2 normal route and 1 opposite way.

    Jana
    Your last line had me laughing so hard that tears were running down my face. Nice to see you, my friend.
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493 Member
    culka said:

    I agree
    With every word.
    For last few days I’m listening over and over again “Healing cancer world summit”. 10 hours of interesting information sometimes controversial . My head is not big enough for this.
    For example: carrot juice. Most of these experts don’t recommended it for us due to its sugar content, but Ms. Gerson said if this juice is bad, all of their patient would died. Carrot and apple juice is a staple of gerson therapy, right? She is 90 years old, TBC survivor and she looks like 60.
    One thing all of them said. GREENS. As much as possible. Soo now I’m sitting here, writing this (second time already) and drinking carrot/cucumber/kale/celery juice. Looks as it sounds, so green, but taste is not bad.
    And by the way I had 3 coffee today, 2 normal route and 1 opposite way.

    Jana
    duplicate post.
  • california_artist
    california_artist Member Posts: 816 Member
    Jana,
    Made me laugh so unexpectedly I spit on myself, again.

    Love you my strange little Canadian friend.

    Claudia

    When I make carrot soup, I add the usual turmeric, etc, but then I add heaps o' nutmeg, which makes it taste like pumpkin pie. It is so delicious, I can't even say. Well, okay, guess I did.

    Do your friends know how you roll when you are at home. 2/1?
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493 Member

    Jill
    Do you feel that eating red light foods is a precursor or will lead to imbibing in the red light district?

    How you doin'?

    Just trying to lighten things up. : ~ )

    Some of the best red light foods are served in red light districts. New Orleans, for example, has some of the world's best restaurants side by side with quasi-bordellos. More fun that way... two types of "forbidden fruits."


    This post was supposed to follow Claudia's reference to Red Lights!
  • JoAnnDK
    JoAnnDK Member Posts: 275

    Jana,
    Made me laugh so unexpectedly I spit on myself, again.

    Love you my strange little Canadian friend.

    Claudia

    When I make carrot soup, I add the usual turmeric, etc, but then I add heaps o' nutmeg, which makes it taste like pumpkin pie. It is so delicious, I can't even say. Well, okay, guess I did.

    Do your friends know how you roll when you are at home. 2/1?

    alkaline and anti-inflammatory
    Jill, I do not think these two kinds of diets are totally in sync.

    I read that <<<in general, the alkaline diet involves eating certain fresh citrus and other low-sugar fruits, vegetables, tubers, nuts, and legumes and avoiding grains, dairy, meat, sugar, alcohol, caffeine and fungi. >>>

    But the anti-inflammatory diet does not call for these same restrictions. In fact, Dr. Weil's diet encourages the eating of Asian mushrooms and permits natural cheeses and whole grains, as do all the anti-inflammatory diets that I read about. One site (WebMD) said that the diet is close to the Mediterranean Diet.
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493 Member
    JoAnnDK said:

    alkaline and anti-inflammatory
    Jill, I do not think these two kinds of diets are totally in sync.

    I read that <<<in general, the alkaline diet involves eating certain fresh citrus and other low-sugar fruits, vegetables, tubers, nuts, and legumes and avoiding grains, dairy, meat, sugar, alcohol, caffeine and fungi. >>>

    But the anti-inflammatory diet does not call for these same restrictions. In fact, Dr. Weil's diet encourages the eating of Asian mushrooms and permits natural cheeses and whole grains, as do all the anti-inflammatory diets that I read about. One site (WebMD) said that the diet is close to the Mediterranean Diet.

    JoAnn
    You are correct about the two diets not being totally in sync; and I just reread my first post in this thread, which explains the difference as I was able to determine it. One thing I am certain of, however, is that increasing the alkaline foods in your diet will reduce inflammation throughout your body. I do not yet understand how grains can be both acidic and anticancer or how any cheese can have anticancer properties. Nevertheless, I do believe that the key is balance; and as Claudia pointed out, we can basically eat what we want within reason (and occasionally not) as long as we aim for either a decent ratio of alkaline/acid foods (recommended at 80 to 20)or of anticancer foods and "other."


    Happy eating.
  • daisy366
    daisy366 Member Posts: 1,458 Member
    Rewriter said:

    JoAnn
    You are correct about the two diets not being totally in sync; and I just reread my first post in this thread, which explains the difference as I was able to determine it. One thing I am certain of, however, is that increasing the alkaline foods in your diet will reduce inflammation throughout your body. I do not yet understand how grains can be both acidic and anticancer or how any cheese can have anticancer properties. Nevertheless, I do believe that the key is balance; and as Claudia pointed out, we can basically eat what we want within reason (and occasionally not) as long as we aim for either a decent ratio of alkaline/acid foods (recommended at 80 to 20)or of anticancer foods and "other."


    Happy eating.

    foods to avoid
    Jill, I think your diet is scrumptious. For me, you exemplify the best of all things - 98+% plant-based foods with a little of whatever you enjoy thrown in. My goal is to eat more like you - nutritious and yummy! Enjoy your birthday celebration.

    Per the Food for Life Classes, which I will post the last 2 class info soon, there are DEFINITELY things we should avoid - animal products and processed foods. These are also highly acidic.

    Re: the sugar in fruit - it's OK!!! It's the processed sugars that are bad.
    Last night's class was about boosting the immune system. I will post later.

    Mary Ann
  • Fayard
    Fayard Member Posts: 438 Member
    Rewriter said:

    And the Winner Is: Servan-Schreiber's Anti-Cancer Diet
    I've been so frustrated trying to follow an alkaline diet. Although I can have most fruits and vegetables, I am unable to get enough healthy (for me) protein and grains. The list of alkaline proteins includes only almonds, chestnuts, millet, tempeh (fermented), tofu(fermented), and whey protein powder. Almost all grains are considered acidifying, as are blueberries, lentils, beans, and red wine, which I feel are so healthy (with red wine in moderation).

    I don't eat soy products, and I'm not happy making a meal of whey protein. I eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, but I MUST be able to have quinoa, lentils, spelt, beans, and nuts other than almonds (although I consume almonds more than any other nuts) as my protein sources.

    I eliminate most meat (maybe once a month, I crave lean poultry or grass-fed beef; and I usually give in to the craving because I feel that my body is telling me it needs the food), all sugar (even Stevia), and have large salads every day. Main meals are grains, beans, and greens, with a handful of nuts.

    This is the way I will continue to eat. There is too much conflicting information out there, so I am going with my "gut."

    I am going with you!

    I am going with you!