Who here is using food to better their prognosis, either in conjunction with other therapies or even

california_artist said:

Rosey, wow.
Know for a fact that chemo brain is not a problem.
Thank you so much for sharing all you've done. I have a few quick questions. Did you take your curcumin/turmeric at the same time as pepper/olive oil or did you take it on it's own?

Do you know if your cancer cells are ER/PR - or +? Cabbage, which I see you are eating turns the strongest cancer promoting estrogens into the weaker non cancer causing estrogen.

Have you looked into LIfe Expectancy by Dr. Miller?

What types of things did you study from to get where you are? Books, dvd's, urls, anything at all might help.

Do you have green tea with or without lemon? I am asking to get a stronger handle on what it is people are doing in addition to the usual. Things that might give someone else some ideas to work with and discuss with their doctors if they felt they wanted to.

If you don't mind could you say something about these?
Do you get blood tests?
What is your normal body temp?
Do you know your potassium number. Was it ever low?
Do you have things with artificial sweeteners.
Do you have ginger, raw?
Have you had albumin and/pr C-RP taken?

With all that you do, do you feel it is just too much trouble. How do you feel about what you're doing?

Thanks so very much.

Love ya oodles,

Claudia

After reading your statement, I took another look at whey and was very impressed with this:

Animal models, usually for colon and mammary tumorigenesis, nearly always show that whey protein is superior to other dietary proteins for suppression of tumour development. This benefit is attributed to its high content of cystine/cysteine and gamma-glutamylcyst(e)ine dipeptides, which are efficient substrates for the synthesis of glutathione. Glutathione is an ubiquitous cellular antioxidant that directly or through its associated enzymes destroys reactive oxygen species, detoxifies carcinogens, maintains proteins in a reduced state and ensures a competent immune system. Various experiments showed that tumour prevention by dietary whey protein was accompanied by increased glutathione levels in serum and tissues as well as enhanced splenic lymphocyte proliferation, phagocytosis and natural killer, T helper and cytotoxic T cell activity. Whey protein components, beta-lactoglobulin, alpha-lactalbumin and serum albumin were studied infrequently, but results suggest they have anticancer potential. The minor component lactoferrin has received the most attention; it inhibits intestinal tumours and perhaps tumours at other sites. Lactoferrin acts by induction of apoptosis, inhibition of angiogenesis, modulation of carcinogen metabolising enzymes and perhaps acting as an iron scavenger. Supplementing cows with selenium increases the content of selenoproteins in milk, which on isolation inhibited colon tumorigenesis in rats.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17430183

National institue of health

Natural Killer cells are so important.

do you have a particular supplier for your whey or other supplements that you would feel comfortable mentioning?

Gracegoi said:

Diet Part one
When I found
Diet Part one


When I found out I had cancer I was in touch with a woman on line battling stage 3 colon cancer. I began reading all of what she did diet wise.

I purchased a juicer and began juicing immediately. I began looking into herbs having had an herbal back ground.

People were suggesting to make changes. This made sense to me . When an addict begins recovery its suggested to change friends because all the old buddies were using Buds.

So here are the changes I made with the prodding of people on the Internet and off.


I began juicing every morning
I took apple cider vinegar in the mornings. ( this lasted about three weeks only.)

I began putting lemon in sparkling water.

That lasted for a short time because I started juicing ginger.

Each morning I would juice about 4 oz of ginger root. 1 oz. I would combine with Celery juice and I mixed in two teaspoons of turmeric.

I'd drink that nasty concoction followed by my juice which consisted of numerous veggies and fruits.

Always kale, celery carrots , apple, as base stables

Usually another green source such as cabbage or broccoli cucumbers.

And additional fruit or two such as strawberries , grapes . melon, pear .


fruits in season and on sale would dictate did not use organic. The amount of fruit and veggies I was using every day would have had me running up a visa card I could not pay off each month.

Not interested in doing that.


My tea.

The other 3 oz. ginger plus the ginger pulp went into a large tea strainer you can find at world market. Good luck finding a tea kettle with a large enough opening. I knew what I wanted and My higher power presented it all for me.
World market sells the large strainer just not a kettle it can fit into. :-?

Along with the ginger I put in

Two heaping tablespoons (HTBLS). of gunpowder green tea loose,

Two HTBLS Burdock root
Two HTBLS Dandelion root
One HTBLS Astragalus root
One HTBLS Ashwagandha root
One HTBLS Dried rosemary leaf From the garden
One HTBLS Of lavender from the garden
A Handful of red clover blossums



Brought to a boil and steeped in around six cups of water

usually another cup added by ice and or water to run through the tea Bowl.

I put it in a quart thermous to drink during work and drank the remainder into the evening.

I have done this for over two years now . I rarely miss a day


This past spring I began juicing less. I believe its because I would make my tea every other day drinking only four cups a day.

I sweeten it with stevia . Its fabulous Iced. I make half sized ice cubes out of the tea.so they fit into the thermous

Its cold and tingly . In the winter I fix it hot . There is nothing else I wish to drink. I am absolutely in love with it and was thinking the other day. I hope , and its about time , something I love to consume is actually GOOD for me .



Lipton's citrus green tea ( splenda water with food coloring) makes me laugh when I look at it now .


The reason I choose the herbs I did had to do with MY CT scan showing tiny liver lesions. These herbs help cleanse the liver .

I recently read your not supposed to use some of the herbs longer than two weeks,,

Opps! LOL!


Some other changes I made was to

-throw out my microwave,
-filter all my drinking water,

Stop all carbonated sodas.
-Stop drinking coffee . That lasted six months.




I got the apple cider vinegar,lemon , turmeric . and ginger from Claudia

Also the idea of making tea and drinking it through out the day. The herbs came from my own research,

the microwave and splenda tossing came from a local friend.



Theres more but thats all for now.



Grace

jazzy1 said:

Juicing vs. Eating Whole Foods
I purchased a Jack LaLane Juicer at beginning of my diagnosis in 2009, but have today changed to no juices but eating the whole foods. Bottom line, with juicing we miss many of the parts of the foods, plus lots of pulp which is a critical part of the digestive process.

Article brings up many good points to ponder on.

Jan

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TO JUICE OR NOT TO JUICE, THAT IS THE QUESTION !


Fruits and vegetables are made up of nutrients, fiber, and water. Our bodies are designed to consume whole foods and not processed foods. Each individual part is very important as an integral part of the package. Two parts without the third is not the ideal way to consume the food. Juicing takes out the fiber and all of the stage 2 juice that’s in the pulp and dehydrating takes out the pristine alkaline structured water. Juice from a juicer is not whole food - it’s considered processed because the fiber with its phytonutrients has been removed.

Both juicing and dehydrating are processes that seem like a good idea but in reality are very wasteful of valuable ingredients of a food not to mention the amount of time required for the juicing or dehydrating process. Consuming more vitamins and minerals from fruits and vegetables is what we want to stay healthy or regain health so, at first glance, juicing seems to make sense. We are told that we don’t need the fiber and it’s just there to hold the juice together. Marketing hype often hides the real truth. People often make a decision to buy a juicer after hearing only the marketing hype and not looking into the whole truth and the other options. Blending is an option that is backed up by science which says whole foods are the healthiest way to eat.

Juicers are a multibillion dollar industry. As with any business, you will get the marketing hype and “facts” that may not include the whole truth. The whole truth is that whole foods are the healthiest things to eat. Nature intended us to eat whole foods not only part of a food.

Juicer promoters talk about how quickly the juice gets into the blood stream leading you to believe it’s a good thing, not realizing that it gets into the blood stream too quickly. Juice will spike your blood sugar and cause other problems the body has to then deal with. It can be counter-productive and do more damage than good. The fiber allows the nutrients to enter the blood stream at the perfect speed - not too fast and not too slow. The body will also process the 2nd stage juice that is bound up in the pulp.

You will hear a lot of testimonies from people who use juicers about how they were healed of health problems. In reality, they were probably healed because along with the juicing they stopped consuming the kinds of foods that promote disease - meat, dairy, and processed foods. Their health would be much better and regained much quicker with whole foods.

The pulp or fiber in fruits and vegetables acts like a broom inside our digestive tract. It’s a very critical part of the digestive process. Without the pulp, the system slows down and can even stall - constipation. If you drink juice you then have to get your fiber elsewhere so why not blend everything together and eat whole foods.

It’s always better to eat whole foods. The combination of water, fiber, nutrients and phytochemicals is always perfect for what our bodies were designed to eat. The fiber that is discarded in juicing helps to slow down the absorption of sugar into the blood. Juice will cause the blood sugar to rise just like it does with a can of soda, especially the new hybrid carrots with their unnaturally high sugar content. The reason people love carrot juice is because it is feeding their sugar addiction but in reality they are just trading one sugar drink for another.

We can easily eat a few carrots at a time and be satisfied. However, a glass of carrot juice can contain a pound or more of carrots. How long would it take to eat a pound of carrots? Our bodies don’t need that flood of excess nutrients. We have a tendency to believe if a little is good then a lot must be better. So with juicing, we get way too much sugar, way to fast and even though our standard American diet is fiber poor anyway, we thrown away something our bodies desperately needs. Fiber is actually a nutrient that we need. Overall, juicing doesn’t make much sense when you look at all the facts.

Juicing gives us incomplete nutrition from a carrot or anything else we might juice because juicing wastes a lot of the nutrients that are trapped in the fiber. Blending with a powerful blender will break up the fiber and when the fiber is broken up at the cellular level, it releases the phytochemicals that were bound up in it. These phytochemicals aren’t released from the pulp when put through a juicer. They remain in the pulp that is thrown away.

We should consume whole foods because every part of a whole food is needed for proper assimilation of the nutrients. The fiber and the phytochemicals that are bound up in it are very important to be consumed together. The Creator of our bodies also created the food that was designed to nourish that body. He knew exactly what we needed to maintain vibrant health. He created whole foods for a reason.

The blending process does, more efficiently and quickly, what our teeth are designed to do. Chewing is a very important part of eating. Most of us take a bite of something, chew a few times, and then swallow mostly chunky food. Studies have shown that those who live to be over 120+ years old spend many hours eating. They will take many hours to eat one apple. Their teeth grind the food up and all the stage 2 juice is released from the food - something that the stomach is not designed to do. The expression, “drink your food and chew your drink” makes a lot of sense.

Juicing seems to be an excuse for some people to justify continuing to eat junk food or their calorie dense, high fat, nutrient light - “comfort foods”. They think a little bit of good will balance out the bad.

With more to think about, you can now make a more intelligent decision about whether to juice or blend.

Remember, WHOLE FOODS RULE!

Gracegoi said:

No question
That eating the whole food is better than just juicing. I only posted part one of my diet. I eat lots of raw veggies for dinner so I get the BETTER of both worlds.

I have thought about getting one of the high powered blender soup makers. Just not into spending 300.00 for one. I don't want it that much.


This paragraph tells why I juice in the morning only.

Juicing also ensures that the body is getting sufficient amounts of phytochemicals, substances in plants that are considered among the most powerful ways to fight disease. While most people do not eat enough raw fruits and vegetables to obtain the amount of phytochemicals that would make a difference, it is relatively easy to drink enough juice to obtain sufficient amounts of these powerful nutrients. In addition, antioxidants and other immune enhancing properties are concentrated in juices.

I wonder just how much nutrients are in the plup VS the juice, I have never seen a study.


Mary Ann ,

I have no idea what the lesions are up to. I was offered a CT scan in September. I opted for a CA125 only and if it was elevated then I would have one. Since it went from 5 to 4 I figured The lesions are not UPSC. If it was I'd be in trouble in over two years time.

jazzy1 said:

Fruite Juice comparison to Whole Fruits??....on Whole Foods!
How does fruit juice compare to whole fruit?

You'll notice that on our website we've listed all of World's Healthiest Fruits in whole food form, and that no fruit juices are specifically mentioned as the preferred form for your Healthier Way of Eating. The reason for this emphasis on whole fruits versus fruit juices is simple: regardless of the fruit and regardless of the method used for juicing, the most diverse and intact collection of nutrients comes to you through the whole fruit!

What's missing in fruit juice.

Whole fruit provides you with a whole lot more nutrition that fruit juice. Focusing upon two components of fruit - the skin and the pulp - will help to clarify why there is such a difference between the two.

The benefits of fruit skins

The edible skins of many of the World's Healthiest Fruits - including apples, apricots, blueberries, figs, grapes, pears, plums, prunes, raisins, raspberries, and strawberries - are all sites of important biological activity in the life of the fruit. The skin is one of the places where the fruit interacts with sunlight, and forms a variety of colored pigments that absorb different wavelengths of light. These pigments, including carotenoids and flavonoids, are well researched as nutrients that protect our health and nourishment. The skins of whole fruits like grapes have actually been studied for their ability to help lower risk of cancer and help provide protection from ultraviolet light.

Unfortunately, when fruits are juiced, we don't always get to enjoy the fruit's skin. That is because many juicing processes remove the skin, and do not allow for its full benefits to get into the juice.

The benefits of the fruit pulp

In addition to the skin, which is an important source of fiber in most fruits, the pulpy part of the fruit is also a source of fiber (and other nutrients). Orange juice makes a good example of the health difference when you focus on the issue of its pulp. The white pulpy part of the orange is the primary source of its flavonoids. The juicy orange-colored sections of the orange contain most of its vitamin C. In the body, flavonoids and vitamin C often work together, and support health through their interaction. When the pulpy white part of the orange is removed in the processing of orange juice, the flavonoids in the orange are lost in the process. This loss of flavonoids is one of the many reasons for eating the orange in its whole food form (even if you only end up eating a little bit of the white pulpy part). Although many commercial products will say "pulp added" on their labels, the "pulp added" many not even be the original pulp found in the whole fruit, and it is highly unlikely to be added back in the amount removed.

Juicing reduces the fiber content

How much fiber is lost in the conversion from whole fruit to fruit juice? Let's use apples and apple juice as an example.

A cup of apple juice that you can see straight through (pulp removed) contains no measurable amount of fiber. To create this 8-ounce glass of juice, approximately 3-4 apples are needed (depending, of course, on the size and density of the apples). Each of these 3-4 apples contains about 3.75 grams of dietary fiber, for a total of about 12-15 grams of dietary fiber. Virtually all of these 12-15 grams are lost in the production of clear apple juice! These 12-15 grams of lost fiber, if added back into the juice, would fully double our average daily fiber intake!

Is fruit juice unhealthy?

The answer to this question depends on how it's consumed, and what foods it replaces. Fruit juice that has been robbed of its fiber and broad range of nutrients is basically just a concentrated source of sugar that lacks the supportive nutrients to help it digest and metabolize. Fruit juice elevates blood sugar more quickly than whole fruit, and the level of sugar that can be obtained from fruit juice is higher than the level found in whole fruit. For example, 120 calories' worth of whole apples contains about 24 grams of sugar, while 120 calories' worth of apple juice contains about 30 grams.

Additionally, many fruit juices that are sold in supermarkets contain only a small percentage of real fruit juice, and contain added sweeteners (sucrose or high fructose corn syrup). As a result, it is easy to consume a large amount of calories without getting any actual nutrition when you consume these beverages. Make sure you read fruit juice labels carefully! Turn over on the back of the jar or bottle, and look over the ingredient list - you may be surprised to see exactly where the fruit itself fits in!

Practical tips

If fruit juice is the only "convenience" choice for replacing a canned soda pop, we're all in favor of fruit juice versus soda pop. If fruits are juiced together with vegetables, the pulp is retained, and juicing allows a person to increase his or her intake of vegetables substantially, then we also would support this step (especially if you use a home juicer that allowed close to 100% retention of the pulp and skin.) However, in most cases, the switch from whole fruit to fruit juice can only be made at the expense of full nourishment and health.

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jazzy1 said:

Karen
Thanks for the nice compliment! Took me a while to get the picture up as getting old with me at the beach.

When I used the Jack LaLanne machine it would take out all the skin, seeds, stems and spit out in another part of device. Book suggested keeping the misc. for additions to soups, etc. What I found, it wasn't easy and many times in freezer and have to thaw out. Therefore, I didn't use it but throw it out.

My nutritionist told me to stick with " whole food" and try to avoid lots of juicing and supplements. She even suggested I consume the whole food with seeds, and any other parts inside the fruit/vegie. Today that's my goal and if I do juice it's on occasion.

Hugs,
Karen